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212eldx in .308 hybrid cases?

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308 Lapua brass, 6.8x51 Hyrbid, necked and sized, and 6.8x51 out of the box. Have 25 prepped, just going to fireform this weekend with normal 308 loads. Would eventually like to see how well they do with some of the heavies. I have 200.2, 208ELDMs 215s Bergers and 225ELDM. I think the last 3 would not be able to stabilize out of the AI barrel.
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Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

gunjunkie45
akg102 said:
It’s definitely not the “mud hut” or “women in a black sheet” cultures that are fascist. Stoning, honor raping, suspending elections, and free fall executions are all a wonderful part of cultural diversity.

The real fascist cultures let you walk around topless, comparing your representatives to the Mustached Bad Man.

White women will be the downfall of Western civilization, if we let them.
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Anyone else watch the types of "demonstrations" and imagine a couple M134s in the windows above? Asking for a friend.
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Mwalex
BytorJr said:
Our Judiciary has been corrupted from top to bottom and back again. Once the Judiciary is fully corrupt, that country will soon fail.

Seems like every one of Trump's really big pushes has been stopped by COMMUNIST judges who have no litmus test on whether or not it is Constitutional and just whether or not it hurts their or somewhat else's feelings.
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Time to make gallows great again
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atomic41
theLBC said:

"Not Today, Satan!": Ex-FBI Agent Finds Possible ATF Honeypot Website Operation Selling Glock Switches | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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I fucking called it again. Yo glowfaggots, It's really fucking obvious that you're still running fast and furious and we all know you're behind the mass shootings and terror attacks too.
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Strasser RS 700: straight pull Remage-style barrel nut that uses R700 accessories (stocks, triggers)

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A good friend was planning on getting into PRS but also had a thing for straight pull rifles and wanted to try one. We said the only one I would try is the Strasser S700. We ordered a Barrelled action with the 26" 6.5CM option. Our friend wanted to use a PSE E-Tac carbon stock as he is using one on his remington anyway. We fitted and bedded the Strasser to a new stock. Also 20MOA Strasser rail and an Atlasworx AICS mag system. Fitted the 3-27x56 PMII. Guss our local PRS guy dropped by and helped with zero and ammo testing. The worst group we short was 14mm with Sako TRG 136gr, best was 10.2mm with 140gr ELDM. 3 shot groups. 123gr Nosler Custom and 143 ELDX were inbetween. Rifle zeroed with the 140gr ELDM. This was with the first 20 shots.

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A few weeks later the new owner finally got around to go out hunting with me. He had not fired the rifle yet. Of course plan went to pot as we had deer in front of us while driving up the hill to the spot. He settled behind the rifle off the Land Rover hood and seemed happy to take the 382m shot with the dope from my rifle with similar speed. After the Hind dropped the calf came back and was also taken. Deer were bedded in the little yellow patch across the valley.

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Later we did a bit of longer range testing on rocks out to 900m. The high moisture in the air with bad visibility didn't allow for further. Hits were solid until 900m. One very happy friend....

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Current Surgeon vs AI Action

CopenhagenRealTree
DeathBeforeDismount said:
There are internal changes too.

There are guys who post on this site in the AI picture thread with AI failures they don't talk about. I personally know 2 of them. It doesn't get called out but it happens. That's the difference between what you read on the internet and what you see out in the field.

I got blasted a few years ago on here for calling them out so no need to rehash it. People get super defensive when you start to break down their belief structures and no amount of reason, logic and common sense will change that.

A match like mammoth does not put any more wear and tear on a rifle than a PRS match. No one is jumping the guns into the arctic. They aren't chucking their gun down a canyon. Its the environmental that really stress the guns. Rain, Dirt, Snow, Ice. Moisture causing high pressure events resulting in parts failure or a siezed gun. A bunch of dust and dirt getting into the action/trigger causing missfeeds or trigger failures. Then you get into small parts failure. Nothing I have seen says AI makes more reliable/durrable small parts than the other manufactures. In fact, I have seen the opposite. When you pair factory ammo that could be all over the place with these guns, you get another increases variable of failure. Its usualy a combination of things, not just one.

When it comes to a gun, simpler is better and less moving and small parts to break the better IMO. Its why the modern 700 clones with current feature set are so damn reliable when paired with a good trigger and chassis. A broken trigger or firing assembly failure (almost never happens with normal loads even in bad weather) is the most likely failure. Some idiots will also have pressure issues, but that's not the fault of the gun. They load hot and then when the weather changes they run into issues. I 100% mark that as user error no matter the platform.

Factory guns are fleet rifles. When you need a few dozen to a few thousand rifles you buy a factory gun. You buy the maintance kits and spare parts. You train armorers to a basic standard to swap out parts. That is the benefit of something like an AI or MRAD or Cadex.

For an individual, there is virtually no advantage to buying a fleet gun, especially when they end up costing significantly more than a full semi/custom that will perform just as well, give you much more options for fit out and in many cases be easier to shoot. Replacement parts and consumables are also much cheaper for the end user. Go look at what a spare bolt for an AI vs an Impact/terminus/Lone Peak costs. Its twice as much, and good luck getting something like a .223 bolt for training.

Most of the people running AI's at matches and the like are not your high quality shooters. There are a few out there but by large they are the lower rung of shooters. Take a class, and same thing. It’s a prestige thing. People think they are some pinnacle rifle , which may have been the case 20+ years ago. We all heard it over the years. You need an AI, S&B and FGMM 168. LOL. There was a time when the Ford Model T was also the pinnace of automobilies.
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Just curious which “rung” of shooter you are? And also your experience shooting and working on all of these rifles.
Sounds like Terry Cross very nicely clarified you had little to no clue about “prefit actions” earlier.
Sounds like someone who either can’t afford an AI or someone who is justifying purchasing whatever setup they have.
My advice just shoot and have fun bud, it’s a lot more fun when you aren’t letting your insecurities get the best of you and being worried about what the next guy spends his money on.
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