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Short ar....somthing i can live without

I have 5 SBR ARs. 10.3" up to 12.5". The only 16" that I still shoot with any regularity is the MK12. The others sit in the safe. I haven't shot my Douglas barreled 20" in years. Everything I shoot is suppressed. If I want long range precision I grab a bolt gun. My SBRs are all used primarily within 200 yards and mostly within 50 as they are for training and mostly under night vision. They all have some flavor of IR laser on them.
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Unfortunately that is exactly true. The media and most government bodies have their mitts on the throat of all narratives.

They are purposefully using their narratives as catalysts to shape their proposed battlespace.
You are being quite diplomatic in your description of the narrative curation program.

Suppressors KGM R30/R30T OR TBAC MAGNUS RR

There’s a big difference between the 2. I’ve used both brakes on my Magnus between my 6 dasher and 7 PRC. I can’t tell any difference in sound with foamies in, but the recoil is certainly different.
For instance on my 7 PRC, 8.6 lb hunting gun, with 190 ATIPs I don’t get bounced off target at all shooting prone with the RecoilX Comp. I kinda will with the standard brake.

Shooting positionally with my 6 dasher is where the RecoilX comp convinced me to switch shooting solely suppressed and sell my brakes such as the CHAD. I typically don’t free recoil, but in one match I was forced to due to time and the position I chose and I stayed on target with the gun over my shoulder.
Just ordered a recoilX brake for my Magnus S RR
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Short ar....somthing i can live without

Seems i build a short ar every few years now (braced as i live in the state of chiraq) and upon shooting them im just underwhelmed by them the only bonus to me is that its a nice small package but short of that id rather a 16in rifle setup any day of the week

Anyone else feel the same? Or am i just nuts
What is it that leaves you underwhelmed? Was there something you tried to do with a short setup that it couldnt do? Was it something that having more barrel would have fixed? If so, maybe you grabbed the wrong tool for the job or you picked the wrong ammo.

This is essentially a barrel length vs velocity argument and as with all things, it's a trade off. If you value or need more velocity, then go with a longer barrel. You also have to consider that not all are living under your constraints. Many run suppressors.

These days, I've been running a 12.5 with a suppressor that brings the length to just over 16". Running Black Arc 53gr V-Max I'm getting around 2900 fps at the muzzle. Its pretty danged compact without the suppressor and still manageable with.

If I find myself needing to wring more out of my rig, I'm not going to do it by turning my handy rig into something more unwieldy. I'm gonna grab something compact in a bigger caliber. Probably a .308.

I value ease of handling. Pulling a long barreled anything out of a scabbard on a 4 wheeler, or trying to negotiate it from inside of a side by side is a PITA. Not to mention just having it slung trying to get through the woods.

I can see humping around a 16" if you don't run suppressed. I have a 16" and all I really use it for is trips where I know I'll be stationary most of the time. That one rarely makes it out of the safe.

Maybe I've just gotten old and lazy, but I'm not limited to what I can grab by uncle Sam and don't feel the need to tote an uncomfortable setup to get all I can out of the little 5.56 when there may be better options.

Of course, if shooting fron a stationary location is your thing, or you don't run into situations that I do, your needs will differ. Me, I'm 5'2" tall and my 12.5 with the suppressor feels like a full size rifle to me. My shooting buddy is over 6' tall and a 20" looks like a toy in his hands. He doesn't have any problems pulling from a scabbard and he ain't doing anything from inside of a side by side anyway. For him a longer rig makes sense.

It's a matter of what YOU need. To say that shorter rigs don't serve a purpose is an over reach.