st1650 said:

From infowars. Take it with a grain of salt but remember the uss liberty.

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Thing is, what is the difference between c eye eh, holy land secret squirrels, brainwashed orphans, and disaffected Antifa dumbasses? To Charlie Kirk, none. They are all deeply connected.

tt22 said:

The new ones have a detent at the unlocked position which helps them not fall down while dialing.

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The originals had a detent also but it wasn’t enough. They fixed those and the following runs were fixed before shipping.

$1450 shipped

beetroot said:

So sounds like they wont be producing optics themselves anymore, but the wont be shutting down the sport optics division of Zeiss.

I wonder if they have found the cheaper OEM produced products are selling better than their own, with the higher end market having more competition with less customers.
For rifle scopes it would seem the Japanese made Zeiss S3 is considerably more popular than the German made S5, for example.

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I have the S3 6x36 and its a excellent scope. Only trading because....sometimes you need a change. Very smooth elevation dial, glass is killer, and their US customer service is excellent.

Sniperwannabee said:

Does Utah have the death penalty?

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I thought firing squad a possibility….But been wrong before

Terry Cross said:

I am flabbergasted that there was no security and overwatch in place!

He had already had a multitude of death threats and the Hate Meter was very high.

Letting somebody setup a rifle shot on him in an open campus venue is the most stupid and incompetent shit I can think of.

Fucking idiots.

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Yeah... I have several scouting reports from potential controversial speakers on campus here. Pretty much every time the biggest concerns where conservative speakers and antifa taking pot shots....

diggler1833 said:

What??? I was supposed to get a call.

They were specifically supposed to send me a unit (complete with KMW Sentinel and Krieger barrel) for testing. Word was that they were very concerned with what the beer-bellied, country-yokel market segment thought about it.

Consider me disappointed in all parties...

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Dammit! Sometimes the world is not fair!

No way he survived that. Way too much blood flow.

ChezJfrey said:

I work in IT, and on a Teams call today, one of my "coworkers" (he's remote, somewhere in Maryland) mentioned this incident, but approvingly. What a fucking asshat. The people on that side, even supposedly "normal" ones, are completely on board for killing anyone simply opposed to ideas they hold. But it's the alt-right, nazi, racists that are dangerous! I think I've officially reached my limit of tolerance.

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Remember how they really are and do not hesitate under stress.

Ahogue21 said:

Seems i build a short ar every few years now (braced as i live in the state of chiraq) and upon shooting them im just underwhelmed by them the only bonus to me is that its a nice small package but short of that id rather a 16in rifle setup any day of the week

Anyone else feel the same? Or am i just nuts

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Depends on what you run through them if talking 5.56, where NAS will match 16” velocities from a 10.5”-11.5” barrel.

Once you go to some of the High Performance Intermediate Cartridges, there isn’t anything you can do to a 5.56 to make it competitive in performance.

For example, once you see a 12” Grendel impact on steel at 800yds right next to a 24” hot-loaded .223 Rem spitting 77gr faster than you can from an AR, you lose interest in .223 Rem really quick, other than logistics.

16” AR-15s are nothing more than an unintentional by-product of really bad infringement thinking in 1934 and the 1960s.

When Colt first made the SP-1 Carbines, they would have preferred to configure them like the XM177E2, not a silly long-barreled 16” weird-looking carbine.

The after-market in the 1980s followed suit, but with heavy barrels from Bushmaster and Eagle Arms. Colt also had heavy-barreled 16” carbines as well.

Some companies still tried to mimic the XM177E2 look with faux moderators, but still used heavy profile barrels, and really missed the mark.

The best thing that ever happened to 16” barrels was MLGS really, which made the cyclic rate and perceived recoil/sight recovery better than CLGS 16”.

But in the end, 16” barrels should have never been a thing with the AR-15. I have a bunch of them, but never shoot them anymore.

Terry Cross said:

I don't know about your example guy but all GSW are not the same.

The closest and clearest vid so far shows a LOT of hydraulics at impact. His shirt puffs, skin and outer tissue ripples and there is massive blood actively pushed out of either the entrance or exit. The blood wasn't driven by BP and pulse like a spurt from an arterial cut. I think what was caught on video was the result of the temp wound cavity of a rifle round dumping all energy on target.

FMJs and even most BTHPs are not going to have that type terminal performance.

I am betting a 5.56 class rifle round with a midweight varmint style projo.

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Are you referencing a different video than the one posted here? Can you link it?

From infowars. Take it with a grain of salt but remember the uss liberty.

I really enjoyed listening to his take...fuck I'm fucking pissed...I need to sit and calm down.

TheHorta said:

Leftists already out in celebration.

Actually just overheard one woman exclaim “Good! He got what he deserved! Today is a good day!”

This is what we’re dealing with. Leftists are mentally defective.

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Unreal.

Also that the man in the blue shirt is 'not' the suspect.

So... everything is still up in the air until we get firm details.

Sirhr

Breitbart just reported that Charlie Kirk has passed...

Hopefully they are wrong... But not going to bet against them.

Sirhr

theLBC said:

it isn't possible to hate them enough.

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Truly the enemy of the people.

ChezJfrey said:

Not a good example for your supposed point, considering they were killed by someone affiliated with their own party that was displeased because the targeted politicians weren't extreme enough for the perp.

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LOL The dude was an outspoken anti-abortion Christian targetting Dems and Planned Parenthood. Yes he had voted Dem in the past...But I guess if everyone here wants to start banning based on belief buckets... well... I think a lot of innocent people fall in the same Christian bucket as him.

Once again, don't let emotions lead to stupid decisions. We should be trying to move forward, not continue to regress. Someone shouldn't kill or be killed for their opinions. That includes Kirk and anyone else.

I have 3 SBR 9mm, 2 MP5s and an AR9. They are all SBR'd specifically because I DON'T want higher velocity. I shoot subsonics in them all, suppressed. A longer barrel would totally defeat their purpose.

Terry Cross said:

Not speaking for Preston but I can say that their first production runs are already sold.

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What??? I was supposed to get a call.

They were specifically supposed to send me a unit (complete with KMW Sentinel and Krieger barrel) for testing. Word was that they were very concerned with what the beer-bellied, country-yokel market segment thought about it.

Consider me disappointed in all parties...

Emerson0311 said:

That is what my experience suggests about carotid artery wounds. The Ukrainian girl looked different from what I saw. Perhaps the folks here that have observed more similar results in person than I can can correct me. I apologize for being “that guy”, but I’ve been BSed a lot.

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All I can say is that about 15% of the human population can actually survive with only one carotid. It renders the person at about 86% mental capacity, but they can survive. AMHIK (yeah, I'm one of the 15%).