I posted this in another thread in response to @Frank Green , but it was entirely tangential to the topic... @Ledzep @Bryan Litz Ballistics perhaps y'all have some insight as well.

When you see a pitched bullet & the counter pitching force is sufficient to correct after exiting from the bore, does this correct without any angular deviation to the flight path?

E.g., assume a bullet is seated measurably eccentric and is fired, engraving eccentrically. It will obviously initially spiral after exiting the bore. Assuming dynamic stability is achieved, will the projectile's subsequent flight path have discernible angular difference in flight from a projectile that exited the bore perfectly with no pitching? Is the axis or locus of correction the center of mass? I'm guessing no, due to air resistance.

Hopefully that made sense. I'm guessing there are too many factors for a simple answer, like bullet shape, length, weight, speed of rotation, velocity, degree of wobble, etc.

For sale is an Accufire incendis PRO 640 core 12µm 60hz thermal.

$3400 OBO SHIPPED + INSURED - OPEN TO TRADES/OFFERS

Can take any battery/power bank with USBC input/output. Has onboard storage for recording. It has an iphone compatible app that allows a user to record remotely from their phone.
Can be used as NV clip-on or standalone optic with zeroable reticle.

Practically new condition with minor scuffs on mount being the only signs of wear.
Originally sold for $6200. + tax and shipping.
Company link here: https://www.accufirescope.com/product/incendis-pro-thermal-clip-on/index.html.

Willing to trade for 7mm PRC builds/ 700 pattern Long Actions, quality optics, Colt Python (3" or 4.25"), Scar 17 RCH, or whatever you have to offer for similar value.

I have a tacswap account as well as an ebay for validation of positive feedback. Hell you can even find me on social media and smear me if I don't deliver. IG: @artie_simms


Paypal, Zelle, Cashapp, or Venmo accepted. Shipping and insurance included.

Package Price for everything: $2,000 or reasonable best offer

Individual pricing:
Rifle, AI 10rd mags (2), 5rd mag, rail and brake: $1,600
Ammunition only (will include spent brass if wanted): $800

NOTE: This is a direct sale local pickup only, no shipping. Contact me via private message to communicate or ask questions. I will not respond to public comments or questions. I can send you pictures of anything else you want to see on the rifle before requesting a meetup. It is available as a package or parted out as described below.

Package includes the following:

• Bergara HMR Pro 300 Win Mag rifle with 26" barrel ($1,600 retail). Purchased a year ago. Have ~250 rounds through it from sighting in and an NRL match. Excellent condition other than a scratch on the barrel, shown in pictures below.
• Over 300 rounds of ammunition that is mostly Federal Sierra Match King 190gr, a few boxes of Federal Swift Scirocco 180gr, and 73 rounds of Texas Ammo 168gr. This equates to over $3 per round in value ($3.60 for 190gr, $3.45 for 180gr and $2.15 for 168gr). I also have 300WM spent brass that I will include for free.
• Two Accuracy International 10rd AICS mags ($300 retail and never used)
• One Bergara (Magpul) 5rd mag
• Terminator TA brake ($270 retail), which is what allowed me to shoot this two consecutive full days in an NRL match. Incredible brake out of New Zealand.
• Warne rail- Bergara Premier LA Mountain Tech Tactical Rail 8-40, 20MOA ($75 retail)

I can meet in the metro ATL area, up to 25 miles from zip 30052. I am an FFL so this will REQUIRE a valid carry permit for me to transfer. There will be a $40 additional fee if you don't have a carry permit and I have to waste time on a NICS lookup.

Payment: Cash, PayPal (if you are ok with F&F), Zelle. No shipping or handover will occur until the money is either confirmed in my account or in hand.










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I have three AICS Accurate Mag and one Accuracy International .308 10 round mags with binder plates. I used two of the AM models a few times for PRS competition with a 6GT round. The AI mag was used once. Please send me a private message to communicate.

$50 each for the AM mags
$80 for the the AI mag

Take all four for $200

Will split shipping cost with you to lower 48. Banned states, please don't. Venmo or PayPal friends and family, or you pay fees for goods and services option.

I have a NF NX8 4-32 mounted on a Seekins Havak PH2 with 20MOA base. The NX8 advertises 90 MOA vertical range. After sighting in at 100 yds I have 57 MOA vertical adjustment left. I expected 65 (45 +20). Would you expect to get 65? NF said they will check out the scope as I only dialed down 13 MOA to get sighted in. I have asked Seekins if their receiver base was parallel to the bore. I’m sure it is but that would explain not having to dial down 20 MOA if it wasn’t. My 100 yd sight-in is about 3” above the bore so that’s 3 MOA at 100 yds. I have never had a canted scope base before and just didn’t know what to expect. If I put the POI back to the bore centerline (dial down another 3 MOA) that would result in 60MOA up travel. Maybe that’s close enough?

I have a rifle I put together a little while ago and it's been shooting really weird. It's a bcm upper, green mountain barrel, KAC URX handguard, set screw gas block, microbest bcg, lower is Palmetto with a larue trigger and lmt sopmod. It has weird fliers that I can't account for and it doesn't seem to hold zero. It doesn't shoot to point of aim consistently.

Things I've tried:

Rebarreled
Took it all apart, put it back together, different barrel nut torque (fiddled with upper receivers and found one to thermo fit, didn't help)
Factory ammo to eliminate handloads
Two different scopes, irons
Less oomph on gas block set screws
No muzzle device
Lead sled didn't help

Now here's the weirdest part, I shot it single fed no magazine and it grouped well vertically BUT it had a horizontal stringing of about 2moa

So I'm pretty much stumped, I've built probably 40 ARs and this one seems to be possessed or something

Up for sale is a barely used Vortex gen 3 scope. I have 2 similar scopes and neither is what I really need for my shooting setups.
I do not shoot PRS , and mainly shoot at known distances.
The price is $ 2100.00 . Includes all factory accessories. Rings are not part of the deal.

New Lower Price.

May consider a Trijicon or Delta Stryker 5-50x 56 for trades.
For more info or pictures please Pm me.

GPO CENTURI 3-12x44i Super Compact G4i Riflescope

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If you're looking for a quality hunting scope this is a scope you should be considering.

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Hello all.
Wondering if anyone can give me some advice on velocity.

I am shooting a Sako 75 chambered in 6.5x284. It was a factory 6.5x55 Swede 1:8 twist 24” varmint barrel and was rechambered to 6.5x284.

I have tried various loads, most recently 57 and 58 grains of retumbo, shooting an 140gr Eld-m and the best velocities I am generating are around 2770.

From everything I have read I should be getting closer to the 2900-2950 range?

Any ideas?

Should I re barrel and try a 26” or perhaps move it on and start again with a 6.5prc?

Cheers

I don't have one, but thinking of a Predator for a lightweight build. Doesn't have to be .5 MOA for this application, but a consistent 1 MOA would be fine.

Any recent experience with their barrels? Past (real life) reports have always been pretty mixed, biased to maybe just so-so, so I've stayed away.

Thanks.

MM

$130 TYD

Mystery Ranch Jump Overload
Asking 800 OBO Shipped
Barely used, fantastic condition, all straps and buckles in great shape. Have both hip belts for M or L size. Large Frame.

Built this about 6 months ago, because I hadn’t owned a 308 in close to 10 years. Has 420 rounds on the barreled action. I bought it with 400 and I put 20 rds on it and couldn’t give 2 shits less about 308, still. The chassis is mint and only has the 20 rds on it.

- Lone Peak Fuzion SA
- Bartlein 16” M24 1/10T .308 WIN chambered and threaded 5/8x24 by Stuteville Precision (barrel is an impact 737r prefit)
- AI AX 700 short action chassis
- Area 419 full length Arca
- Anarchy outdoors thumb rest
- Factory bergara trigger (robbed the TT for a different stick)

Action - SOLD

AI AX with arca and thumb rest $1300 shipped

Nightforce 2.5-20x Mil-XT in a Sphur 1.5” 0 moa mount $1900 shipped

Suppressor and bipod are NOT included. Prices are shipped and is to the lower 48 only. PayPal FF, Venmo, or Zelle for payment.

IMI 77gr SMK Razor Core is some great shooting factory ammo. I haven't loaded 5.56 in 15yrs but saved my IMI brass. Gave it a go with the following best performing powders: (Velocities and group sizes practically identical to IMI 77SMK Razor Core)

WOA 18" SPR
2-10X36 Trijicon Credo in ARC rings

Bullet: 77SMK
Powder TAC @24.2gr
Case: IMI 1X
Primer: CCI 41
COAL: 2.255
MV: 2712fps SD: 16fps (IMI was 2711fps SD:15fps)
Temp: 66F.
Ele: 750ft
Group: .53MOA 10 shot
Neck Tens: .0035

Bullet: 77SMK
Powder: N135 @23.7gr
Case: IMI 1X
Primer: CCI 41
COAL: 2.255
MV: 2716fps SD: 7
Temp: 66F.
Ele: 750ft
Group: .54 MOA 10 shot
Neck Tens: .0035

Notes:
N135 was nice surprise. I haven't read much on the powder for 77SMK. 23.7gr gave a bit of ejector shine, but so does IMI.
IMI ammo was COAL: 2.245. I need to load these two loads at that 2.245 COAL and see what happens.
The neck tension on my loads seemed/felt tight. I will get a .0015 larger mandrel and test again.
Trijicon Credo. Man, what a neat little scope. That thing banging out these groups makes me happy.
I learned I can swage/cut the primer crimp from the primer pockets with a VLD chamfer tool. So damn handy!

Have a very good condition TT 2 stage for sale $270 shipped

$65 OBO shipped for the Lyman, great shape, comes with 10 pilots.
$25 OBO for the priming tool. Willing to donate if someone needs it to get started. Only has the large rifle priming stem.

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We offer ZERO % financing on all web orders. Please look at Affirm at check out, if this is something that interests you, for 0% financing.

Always take care of your optics correctly. Check out the VSGO Optical Cleaning Kit

At Camera Land we've been working hard to save you money and get you great products.

Remember to Enter Our Monthly Web Drawing

If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs

We appreciate all the orders and support. Please stay well and safe. Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug_

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that we can assist you with please let us know.

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Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com

Hawkins medium action M5 bottom metal and MDT mag.

$250 shipped. PayPal G&S

OK, looking to get a stoopid rifle. I've had three different 50s over the years, I always say it's my "shitty girlfriend that I that I know I'm better off without, but I always keep her number in my phone....". Every time I sell a 50 I swear it's my last one, but I still keep all the ammo.

In the past I started with a single shot from a company called VM Hy-Tech, then onto a Barret M99 and finally a Windrunner. All 3 long gone in exchange for the next shiny object.

Until a few days ago I was pretty set on a M107a1, because what's better than a suppressible semi-auto??? This (and all my previous 50s) are just for fun. Nothing else I've ever take a group of people out to shoot has made everyone smile more than a 50. It makes everyone giggle like a school girl.

But after looking around, there are some really interesting 50s out there. I want to go with a repeater, but certainly doesn't have to be semi auto.

I did some internet searching, but this isn't a popular topic for comparisons. Therefore I was hoping enough people here have shot or owned 50s and can give me their experience and opinion.

I have the following list of candidates:

Barrett M107a1
Barrett M95
McMillan TAC50-C
Cadex Tremor 50
Steyr HS50
AI AW50 (if one comes up that's reasonable)

There is also Desert Tech, which I'm not too hot on. But if enough people said it was the shit, I would also consider it.

Thanks.

So I've got a setter that's 16 and a half years old. His quality of life is getting pretty bad. Doesn't want to walk, getting really wasted looking. Thing is he still eats and tries to take bones from my 3 year old lol.

Took him to the vet today thinking he's got cancer or kidney failure and would be putting him down. Nope. Labs are all fine, prostate, fine, lungs fine, abdomen fine. He's just tired.

Decided instead to try him on a couple weeks of Galliprant. Even bought him some cbd gummies to encourage him to eat more and help with pain when he walks.

It's probably stupid to do, and I sure don't want to be cruel to him. I just thought I'd give him a fighting chance and see if I can improve his quality of life. If he's not improving, I'll put him down, which brings me to my question. Is there any reliable home brew method to euthanize a dog other than a bullet or an injection? I wish I could feed him a bunch of morphine and let him just drift off to sleep. He's terrified of the vet's office and I don't want him living his last moments in fear. There's a couple at-home euthanasia services around here, which I'll probably go with, but thought I'd ask if there are any alternatives.

Does anyone here own one of these that can share their likes or dislikes with this suppressor? Repeatable poi shift with the factory QD mount?

I have and am happy with my SF Socom 2 Mini. It does everything I need it to do. I need another 308 can that will run on a 16” MWS, 18” rifle gas 6.5 Grendel, and 16” 556 middy but Im being cheap and looking at the YHM Resonator K. Size and low back pressure are the main criteria. If you look at the Pew Science back pressure chart, the Resonator compares well to the SF Mini and even outperforms the Huxworks Flow Ti on back pressure.

What says The Hide?

Will the HK MR7.62 take P-Mags? How bout MR 5.56? Thks

Like new. Mounted on a Glock 19, but I don’t think the light ever left the house.

$100