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Is something going on in Ukraine?
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Prigozhin is fucking mad. He will either be suicided soon or end up leading a coup.
I bet there will be full mobilization within a week, for the special military operation. Then things will get spicy all over the place.
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while Ukrainian men are dying for that miniature rat fuck zelensky, their wives are turning tricks for ethnically diverse foreign "investors" and orphaned kids are being sold into white slavery in the muslim world.
just as planned.
just as planned.
Head of Wagner PMC, the real fighters for Russia.
i saw him bashing the war effort and saying the poor management would end up causing a civil war, shortly after they claimed bakhmut.
honestly don't know if this is legit or part of some disinformation campaign. i don't speak russian....
Fuck. 70% of US money and weapons are being grifted. That has to be a record. Taliban leftovers doesn't count as a grift, that was just fucking incompetence.
Can you translate this to English?
Who did it this time? One of you fuckers did it.
He can only manifest if his name is chanted 3 times in front of a mirror.
BTW, you ever get traction on your petition to allow dope smoking at your range?
He can only manifest if his name is chanted 3 times in front of a mirror.
BTW, you ever get traction on your petition to allow dope smoking at your range?
Prigozhin's games with western media
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Written by Julian Macfarlane, Tokyo-based military and geopolitical analyst.
ALL of the mainstream media in the West are running this story.
It is very Prigozhin—in line with what I have previously written in my previous article on him—and you can be sure that he was aware these comments would be ignite a little fire in that trash dump we call the “media” in the West.
Diving the Western Media Dumpster
a.) Russia faces a “revolution”; the people against the “elites” as in 1917.Now, keep in mind that Prigozhin is a very rich man and his family very well off indeed. His origins may be proletarian— like Putin— but he is now a card-carrying member of the elite.
Putin’s success, including that 80% support he gets, has been largely to do with his success in reining in the oligarchs and controlling corporatism — aka “business elites – -although bureaucracy — aka “governmental elites” — has been a harder nut to crack. In any case, the Russian government has never been more stable. Putin is seen as responsive, if not a reformer.
b.) According to CBS— and the other outlets concur—most apparently stenographing a common script— Prigozhin says that the Russian operation has been “one retreat after another. “
Of course, Prigozhin knows, as most Russians do, that the Russians did not “retreat” from Kiev. They initially put the city under what you might call a loose siege to tie up Ukrainian forces in the north while they made gains in the south. Then they withdrew nominally as a gesture of good faith but really because there was no point in keeping troops in the area when they were too few to do anything but tie up Ukrainian forces, which was no longer necessary.
As for Kherson (City), they did not “retreat” there either — they carried out a strategic withdrawal to more defensible positions from which they could attrit Ukrainian forces with fewer casualties and without jeopardizing civilian lives. Kherson City, after all, was a Russian city.
The “retreat” from Kharkiv was a similarly strategic maneuver — and very successful— insofar that it, like every other similar action, resulted in thousands of Ukrainian casualties.
Prigozhin obviously understands all this. He reads Telegram too. He has his own channel. This is also a media war. Google versus Telegram. Facebook vs VK.
War with Reality
Google, as often as not is at war with reality.
c.) So the next media point is that key Putin goals — “denazification” and “demilitarization” are unachievable. Big failures! Like everything Russian.
“Demilitarization” is an ongoing success. Only NATO support keeps the UAF alive and to date, the Russians have destroyed not one—but three NATO/ UAF armies— the biggest and best equipped that Europe can organize.
Prigozhin throws a lot of junk in the bin. He says the Ukrainians began the war with 20,000 men and 500 tanks and now have 200,000 and 5000 tanks. “Demilitarization”?
But the Ukrainians have suffered at least 200,000 casualties and lost now over 5000 tanks, even by their own estimates. They have been reduced to conscripting everyone from teenagers to seniors and begging for armor from NATO.
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As for “denazification”, the four oblasts in Ukraine that voted to join Russia indicate what Russian Ukrainians think of the Nazis and Western Ukraine’s odious ideology.
With their excesses and constant lies, the Nazis are gradually denazifying even Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians. Propaganda always leaks. Word comes back from the front.
Millions have already spoken with their feet— with Ukrainians becoming Europe’s most unwelcome refugees and that trend creating pushback against pro-Nazi governments. The Ugly American once was. Now it is the Ugly Ukrainian.
Again, Prigozhin must be fully aware of this. He did not get to where he is now by being a moron.
A moron he is not
d.) Prigozhin warns that Ukraine will mount a counteroffensive which could be successful. Of course, he was saying that about Artymovsk, formerly Bakhmut, too.Now, there is no way that Ukraine could restore its 2014 borders. They don’t have the means to besiege Crimea or cut off supply lines. They have already tried attacking the Crimean bridge— unsuccessfully. It is already a hard, hard war — for Ukraine.
Russia is not under real threat— except for UkroNazi terrorism on its borders – much less of a problem than previous Chechen terrorism 20 years ago.
So far, the UAF has not been able to mount a single successful offensive that the Russians did not allow for their own purposes, Kharkov being an example.
“Martial law”? LOL. Now that is straight from Western scripts. The media has been repeating the theme that insurrection is brewing in Russia. They like to hype “insurrection” in general, I guess. Viz: January 6th.
So, what is Prigozhin really doing?
Very clearly, these pronouncements are for the Western Media rather than Russians who are mostly entertained by his outbursts and vulgarities. In Russia, Yev’ is a character. The Bad Boy Who Made Good.
In the West, they say he “makes sense” when he massages their delusions, playing fast and loose with facts, as Simplicius has noted. For example, he quotes Wagner losses at 20,000 compared to Ukrainian losses of 50,000 when talking of Bakhmut.
In fact, those 20,000 were in all theaters since the war started. The 50,000 UAF losses are more recent and for Bakhmut only—and limited to those that Ukrainian sources acknowledge and which Western sources therefore take as fact.
The actual number of Ukrainian losses is likely much higher, perhaps 100,000— but conservatively 70,000 for two reasons.
a.) Ukrainians don’t count wounded who die outside of combat, perhaps 1 out of 3 compared to 1 out of 10 for the Russians.
b.) The Ukrainians often withdraw under heavy fire, leaving their dead on the battlefield. They may refuse to accept the corpses the Russians collect, since then they would have to pay families of the dead. These KIA become MIA.
Confirmation of this trick lies in UkroNazi attempts to accuse Russians of doing this, when there is no evidence that they do—and if they did it would be almost impossible for them hide.
When the Ukrainians accuse the Russians of doing something wrong, that tells you it is the Nazis who are up to this. Need I say, “Bucha”? Or Izyum.
Prigozhin is not stupid. So why would he say such things, that any Russian could pick apart. He certainly wouldn’t do that if he was angling for political office, which is a common assumption in the West, “telling truth to power”. Ummm…like Joe Biden.
Looking at Prigozhin’s history he has worked too hard and too long to jeopardize his future in this way by saying dumb stuff contrary to the popular wisdom in Russia. Wagner has just been legitimized as a company—something Putin has reportedly long been in favor of — and the organization of emerging from legal limbo.
Going into politics to attack the System from which he benefits? Unlikely. Rather, Prigozhin is just selling style. It’s the kind of stuff you hear in bars.
Russians drink a lot and they understand.
Supporting Putin
There is no doubt in my mind that Prigozhin’s outbursts strengthen Putin rather than undermine him in his twenty-year struggle with the entrenched remnants of the 20th Century oligarchy, the bureaucracy, and the Westernized Moscow elites — all of whom prospered on the backs of chaos in the 1990s.Prigozhin’s position in the Russian media as a Mad Max maverick will be rewarded not by political power, I think—but in some other way. He is already a billionaire.
Prigozhin’s strategy in Bakhmut served two purposes.
a.) To sucker the West and keep the Ukrainians fighting — the better to “demilitarize” them— so they are less and less capable of waging war. That applies to NATO. Can it fight a war without ammo and tanks?
b.) To shake up the Moscow and military bureaucracies which – if you read Putin’s speeches — is also one of his main goals. Gerasimov and Shogiu are easy targets. But you will notice that Prigozhin never criticizes Putin; never Surovikin, who really runs the operation in Ukraine and has masterminded at least some of those “retreats”. In the case of Gerasimov and Shogiu, Prigozhin’s attacks force them to be progressive, Gerasimov in further modernization and adaptation of the Russian military, Shogiu in further efficiencies in the Russian military-industrial system, with greater and greater state control, more like China’s and less like the Western model.
Looking at reader response to Western Media articles and videos about Prigozhin’s rant, he has been successful once again. It is a masterful example of how to manipulate confirmation bias. The greater the bias, the harder the fall when the truth becomes apparent. So many people in the West point to Putin as proving that, yes, Russia is losing, the government is tottering, and there is no democracy from Moscow to Vladivostok.
My God how low the IQ has gotten in here since the hay days of the hide.
History lesson 101 for the mouth breathers and the general idiots with an opinion with no factual backing.
The United States in the last standing super power. The leader of the free world.
Russia since the end of WWII was our largest geopolitical enemy. Nothing has changed. Putin has framed this several times as a war on Nato.
Since when do so called freedom lovers support dictators and tyrants? Y’all need a serious soul searching.
Your thesis is seriously flawed. You hate Ukraine since the left supports aid? Did y’all forget so easily that Biden wanted Zelenskyy to run with his family? I see y’all forgot “I don’t need a ride, I need ammunition.”
I lived in Ukraine for 4 years and just recently got back state side. Ukraine is a democracy in every sense of the word. They have fought long and hard for it. Since 2014 when they threw out Putin’s puppet.
For those that have never lived there, it is what I envisioned the US was in the 60’s. The women wear makeup and dress nice. They value freedom and western values. I felt a lot more free than in most American states.
Geopolitical issues and domestic issues are separate and not interconnected. Border issues have no bearing on geopolitical issues.
Y’all go on about inflation and debt…. Have you looked at usd vs other world currencies lately? Look up usd to euro just for kicks some time…we got it good here. The dollar is strong. The whole world was hit by the pandemic. The us weathered it better than most.
History lesson 101 for the mouth breathers and the general idiots with an opinion with no factual backing.
The United States in the last standing super power. The leader of the free world.
Russia since the end of WWII was our largest geopolitical enemy. Nothing has changed. Putin has framed this several times as a war on Nato.
Since when do so called freedom lovers support dictators and tyrants? Y’all need a serious soul searching.
Your thesis is seriously flawed. You hate Ukraine since the left supports aid? Did y’all forget so easily that Biden wanted Zelenskyy to run with his family? I see y’all forgot “I don’t need a ride, I need ammunition.”
I lived in Ukraine for 4 years and just recently got back state side. Ukraine is a democracy in every sense of the word. They have fought long and hard for it. Since 2014 when they threw out Putin’s puppet.
For those that have never lived there, it is what I envisioned the US was in the 60’s. The women wear makeup and dress nice. They value freedom and western values. I felt a lot more free than in most American states.
Geopolitical issues and domestic issues are separate and not interconnected. Border issues have no bearing on geopolitical issues.
Y’all go on about inflation and debt…. Have you looked at usd vs other world currencies lately? Look up usd to euro just for kicks some time…we got it good here. The dollar is strong. The whole world was hit by the pandemic. The us weathered it better than most.
You for real or some weird form of sarcasm…
If for real why do you refuse to fight for such an example of demoxracy and utopia? You a pussy? bigot? is that you Chatgpt?
If for real why do you refuse to fight for such an example of demoxracy and utopia? You a pussy? bigot? is that you Chatgpt?
Hay days of the Hide? You mean last week before you joined?
"Support dictators and tyrants " You pretty much described zelenski.
Did you flee for feer of being abducted and forced into service at the front?
The days before the scout merger this place was full of valuable posters and a true wealth of information.
Now I mainly see it has descended into lots of basement keyboard warriors that have a hardon for tyrannical governments. Y’all are laughable. There are even posters like LBC that post nothing but Russian propaganda. Y’all that fit into this segment are just as bad as Portland pinko commies and make me laugh at your stupidity.
If you really believe Zelenskyy is a tyrant and a dictator you are the biggest dumbass ever. Go to school, get an education. Pretty bad when you can’t tell the difference between an elected official and a tyrant that has warped their countries laws to give them the ability to rule for life and poisoned or imprisoned their political rivals….. in case you are too slow to follow, that’s Putin.
I was a GWOT sniper in 3/75. I don’t care what some random on the internet believes. You get a slow clap for attacking what I choose as a handle.
Now I mainly see it has descended into lots of basement keyboard warriors that have a hardon for tyrannical governments. Y’all are laughable. There are even posters like LBC that post nothing but Russian propaganda. Y’all that fit into this segment are just as bad as Portland pinko commies and make me laugh at your stupidity.
If you really believe Zelenskyy is a tyrant and a dictator you are the biggest dumbass ever. Go to school, get an education. Pretty bad when you can’t tell the difference between an elected official and a tyrant that has warped their countries laws to give them the ability to rule for life and poisoned or imprisoned their political rivals….. in case you are too slow to follow, that’s Putin.
I was a GWOT sniper in 3/75. I don’t care what some random on the internet believes. You get a slow clap for attacking what I choose as a handle.
Fify
When was the last time you were in school? Which way did the teachers lean? Me, last time was this last semester.
So who did you use to be? Why did you choose to join up again now in this thread? You haven't been here in years. LBC has earned his place. We know who he is and what he does here. Can tell you have an opinion.
Btw you sound vaccinated.
Does forrest for the trees mean anything to you?
What was the CIA doing in Ukraine? Why were McCain, Graham and multiple other elected making regular visits to Ukraine? Does 40 plus DOD funded biolabs mean anything to you?
They elected a cross dressing dancing with the stars character?
"Elected official" that's comical.
Which class did you graduate in?
want to tell me why the cia armed and trained terrorists to overthrow syria?
this was after clinton, mcstain and graham flooded syria with weapons (from libya) to arm extremists tied to the muslim brotherhood.
IS RUSSIA PRE-EMPTING THE UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVE? | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson
(This photo is a before and after picture of Russia’s attack on the UAF ammunition depot near Zhytomyr on May 28, 2023.) With all the loose talk from Ukraine and the West about the upcoming (or underway) counter offensive, it is natural for some observers to conclude that Russia is sitting back...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Honestly i don't give a flying fuck about democracy in either Ukraine or Russia, what i give a flying fuck about is they are paying for the whole shit show directly and indirectly with my money .
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It's "heyday", not "hay day", genius.
The literacy requirements for .gov trolls have really dropped due to all the casualties from the meme wars.
heyday
hā′dā″
noun
- The period of greatest popularity, success, or power; prime.
- Highest vigor; full strength; acme.
- The time of triumph and exultation; hence, joy, high spirits, frolicsomeness; wildness.
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The Pentagon declined to offer additional contract details, including the price, scope and timeline of the delivery.
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Pentagon awards SpaceX with Ukraine contract for Starlink satellite internet
The Pentagon declined to offer additional contract details, including the price, scope and timeline of the delivery.
Here's a comment from this vid:
"I don't live under a rock... I remember how the world was before this war. I remember that Ukraine was known around the world as the most corrupt country in Europe. I remember how Zelenskyy was a documented human rights criminal and a brutal dictator that shut down Christian churches, made people disappear, imprisoned his political opponents, closed down TV stations and newspapers that criticized him.. I remember how Ukraine was systematically slaughtering ethnic Russians within Ukraine. I remember how Ukraine had illegal deals with Western countries to operate biolabs and weapons facilities in Ukraine.. I remember all of the reasons that provoked Russia into this war. Putin didn't wake up one morning and decided to attack Ukraine.. This has been going on for a couple of decades. Russia was dealing with an increasingly hostile country for a long time and after several attempts to work out a peace deal, all efforts failed. Russia is NOT the bad guy in all of this. You have to be living under a rock to not know what has been going on for the past two decades between Russia and Ukraine. Personally, I just want to see both sides to come to peace terms and for people to stop dying. Western countries are protecting their biolabs and weapons facilities in Ukraine and that's why they won't talk about peace. Western countries want this war because they want to maintain their control over Ukraine. The west wants to maintain their strategic operations in Ukraine so close to Moscow."
I didn't write it, but I agree with it.
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And that is what makes you a moron. Congratulations.
The war started in 2014 when Viktor Yanukovych, Putin’s puppet was overthrown.
Crimea was annexed and unmarked Russian troops moved into Donbas and Kharkiv and tried to take control. All the shitheads were killed in Kharkiv and they took a foothold in the Donbas. Russia was sending troops with no insignias and their front line equipment. I see someone forgets the little green men and the Russian conscript dumbasses posting geotagged photos in Ukraine.
Petro Poroshenko was elected President and was President tell 2019. He brokered a ceasefire.
Zelenskyy was elected after Petro Poroshenko and tried to make peace.
Putin’s whole bullshit scenario was focused on the DNR and LNR being break away Ukrainians that wanted to join Russia which is obviously bullshit.
Putin also has repeatedly tried to get Belarus to join the federation.
Putin’s idol is Stalin. Watch any interview even in English. He isn’t hiding that.
Putin saw Ukraine and NATO as weak and made a move thinking it would be like Georgia and got his nose broken.
Ukraine is a free country and didn’t invade anyone.
With your mentality I might as well take your property, fuck your woman, kick your ass, piss on you, and tell everyone that you attacked me. Idiotic.
Super interesting video:
I’m thinking Russia is suffering from a lack of a robust IC capability and/or timeliness in processing causing a delay in their kill chain.
You can’t D3A if you can’t do the 2nd D and the A in a timely manner.
You can’t D3A if you can’t do the 2nd D and the A in a timely manner.
TELL CORNPOP I'll WHIP HIS ASS AGAIN IF HE WANTS A GO! THAT MALARKEY SPEWING RAPSCOUNDREL!
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Got it all figured out I see..
If you hate Putin and the big bad bully Russia so bad, as @sharac says.. Im sure the Ukie Foreign Legion has a spot for you
Go put your nuts on the line hotshot.But Im sure you've got a great excuse for not showing us "morons" how its done.
I don't agree or disagree with one side or the other (both are stupid, the war is stupid) but your rejoinder to his post makes as much logical sense as him saying to you that you should join up with Wagner PMC if you think the Ukes/Nato/WEF are the Legion of Evil.Got it all figured out I see..
If you hate Putin and the big bad bully Russia so bad, as @sharac says.. Im sure the Ukie Foreign Legion has a spot for you
But Im sure you've got a great excuse for not showing us "morons" how its done.
Beat him on his statements using facts showing how he is wrong. Issuing stupid challenges as an argument is childish. I know you are better than that.
Or are you? Now there's a challenge.
It doesn’t get said enough…..
Fuck Ukraine!
Guy with skills like yours should be there go now.
Ive laid out my arguments several times. NATO expansionism is a big reason for a lot of this. And NATO at this point is a completely woke, possibly demonic organization. Not to even get into the biolabs, the child trafficking, the CIA orchestrated coup, etc.
Our world police games are a giant waste of money, and the mil-industrial complex's push for endless war accomplishes nothing but spreading misery, destruction, and flag draped coffins. We're more worried about Ukraine's security than our own. Thats a problem.
And this conflict is only escalating more and more. If true war breaks out, I myself will be drafted and sent to "spread some freedom and democracy". But thats alright. Could be worse.. I'd rather hold off on being judged at the pearly gates but if it comes sooner than later, so be it.
But yes, NATO/WEF are absolutely the legion of evil. Or at the least, largely pedos who've been caught on camera fucking kids and compromised by Mossad.
Like him I support neither side. Both losing would be a win.
Facts are few on here are supporting either.
What I am against is our treasure supporting it and we can all be pretty confident that includes dudes from our military and intelligence agencies in harms way over there.
If our media started promoting Russia tomorrow there would be Russian flags replacing ukie ones before sunset.
It’s a war for the mouth breathers.
How Obama And Biden Installed Neo-Nazis In Ukraine
Today’s war cannot be understood without first understanding the U.S. government’s role in Ukraine's Maidan Coup.
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Fucking NED started the Orange Revolution. NED took over for the CIA, that way the CIA had plausible deniability.
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Russian forces target food and water sources to starve Ukrainians, international law report says
The new report details routine Russian strikes in concentrated areas where civilians gathered to receive humanitarian aid and food supplies.
Unfortunately, fact is this admin is backing us into a corner more and more with each passing day. France dropping the US dollar, and BRICS soon to become a powerhouse to be reckoned with. If China announces a formal .mil alliance with Russia, sinks a carrier and then simultaneously invades Taiwan and says "your move, America"... it could be the perfect storm. How many allies can we actually count on if a war with a Russia-China alliance breaks out?
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