Trump is back…the “Now What” thread

pussies. pwnt again.
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i think the trump team needs to challenge every order they make themselves, but with an honest judge.
let the good judge rule against the challenge, and then it is too late for the democraps to do anything about it.

 
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maybe this is why she ditched the constitution?

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When I watched the video of her as Trump was walking by this is what it looked like to me. Eyes tearing up because she was threatened/forced to do what she did. Like her whole family was threatened or something. Of course that'd never happen in this country . That kind of stuff only happens in shithole countries.
 
i think the trump team needs to challenge every order they make themselves, but with an honest judge.
let the good judge rule against the challenge, and then it is too late for the democraps to do anything about it.


I’d like to see the republicans enshrine every EO in a law the day PDJT signs the EO.
Activist justices can FO.
 

Are American voters naive enough to believe this nonsense?

"When the President balances the budget . . ." LOL. Come on.

First, the "President" does not have anything to do with the budget. Even if you believe the made up dollar figures coming out of DOGE that are not showing up in daily, publicly available spending reports, assume that they were showing up as actual savings, there is no way for "the President" to balance the budget.

2024 budget is approx. $6,750,000,000,000

revenue was only $4,920,000,000,000

2024 deficit is $1,830,000,000,000

CBO projects $1,900,000,000,000 deficit for 2025, which is higher than 2024.

So to balance the budget, DOGE needs to eliminate almost $2 Trillion worth of spending, in a fiscal year that is already a third over.

Does anybody believe this horseshit?

There are also potential dangers in getting rid of the income tax for 91% of American households. All of a sudden voters do not care about increasing income tax rates. Hey, it does not affect me. Shrug. Apathy, because it is somebody else. We already have that danger approaching because almost half do not pay income taxes.

Anyway, that last part is academic, because this President balancing the budget thing is laughable. What silly propaganda.

I would say Trump must think we are all stupid, but I am worried that maybe his thinking is correct.
 
Additionally, let's pretend the President magically balances the budget.

Then he gets Congress to eliminate income taxes on all but the top decile of incomes.

So 90% of us pay no income taxes.

Guess what? 90% of us pay 30% of the income taxes.

That top decile pays only 70% of the income taxes.

So now income tax collections are down by 30%. All of a sudden, the budget is not so balanced anymore. No problem, though, I am sure DOGE can find some more savings to make up the difference.
 
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Were any of you shocked to find that the top 10% pay 70% of the income taxes?

They make only 49% of the income.

Not fair.

But it gets worse. The top 5% make 38% of the income but pay 61% of the income taxes. What do you think about a system like that? They make a little more than a third of the income but pay almost two thirds of the income taxes?

The top 1% (remember the Occupy Wall Street protests?) make 22% of the income.

The top 1% pay 40% of all of the income taxes. Is that their "fair share?"
 
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Were any of you shocked to find that the top 10% pay 70% of the income taxes?

They make only 49% of the income.

Not fair.

But it gets worse. The top 5% make 38% of the income but pay 61% of the income taxes. What do you think about a system like that? They make a little more than a third of the income but pay almost two thirds of the income taxes?

The top 1% (remember the Occupy Wall Street protests?) make 22% of the income.

The top 1% pay 40% of all of the income taxes. Is that their "fair share?"
Depends on who you ask.

All politicians are full of shit. Some just say the shit you like to hear.

Is this news to you?
 
Were any of you shocked to find that the top 10% pay 70% of the income taxes?

They make only 49% of the income.

Not fair.

But it gets worse. The top 5% make 38% of the income but pay 61% of the income taxes. What do you think about a system like that? They make a little more than a third of the income but pay almost two thirds of the income taxes?

The top 1% (remember the Occupy Wall Street protests?) make 22% of the income.

The top 1% pay 40% of all of the income taxes. Is that their "fair share?"
pretty sure more than 40% pay no net federal income taxes, which is why so many don't give a fuck when trump cuts taxes.

they might care about gas prices.

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pretty sure more than 40% pay no net federal income taxes, which is why so many don't give a fuck when trump cuts taxes.

Agreed. That is what I said in post 1978:

"All of a sudden voters do not care about increasing income tax rates. Hey, it does not affect me. Shrug. Apathy, because it is somebody else. We already have that danger approaching because almost half do not pay income taxes."

Relieving 90% of Americans from paying income taxes only makes that danger worse, because very few voters will care about the income tax rate. "Raise it up, what do I care?" Most Americans do not think about economic consequences of high tax rates. The only care about whether they are going to have to pay it, which is why politicians always promise to raise taxes only above $XXXX in income per year.
 

There is a 1970s Supreme Court case to overcome . . .

"Griggs v. Duke Power Co." (1971):
This landmark case established that even if a job requirement or test doesn't appear discriminatory on its face, it can still be unlawful if it disproportionately excludes members of a protected group and is not demonstrably related to job performance
 
pretty well known that the top 10 pays 70%,bottom 40 nothing,mid 50 30 %. just me but i think a straight flat tax -pick a # with no deductions would be the way. that would put a lot of CPAs out of biz but they could find something else to do for $300/hr. there would be an affect on the housing market and an affect on the rest of the economy. think they would all pan out with some time. big savings in costs of compliance with the tax code,which NOBODY understands. wouldn't need 87K armed IRS agents,maybe AI could do it. fraud would be much harder to pull. something would have to be done re capital gains. IMHO should be treated as income. would affect the stock market as MAYBE top execs would try to make stock holders some $ instead of pumping up stock values and getting $ thru that.
not gonna happen,too much entrenched power,corruption and bureaucracy involved.
 
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Additionally, let's pretend the President magically balances the budget.

Then he gets Congress to eliminate income taxes on all but the top decile of incomes.

So 90% of us pay no income taxes.

Guess what? 90% of us pay 30% of the income taxes.

That top decile pays only 70% of the income taxes.

So now income tax collections are down by 30%. All of a sudden, the budget is not so balanced anymore. No problem, though, I am sure DOGE can find some more savings to make up the difference.

Agreed but for different reasons.

I don't think Trump's tariffs will generate enough to make up the difference between our current budget deficit and a hypothetical surplus (it's 2tril dollars after all).

Individuals who make 50k or less dollars represent about 2-3% of total tax revenue so if they're going to balance the budget without severe cuts to everything they'll have to raise taxes on higher income earners (people under 50k don't make enough/can't pay enough even if their rates were doubled). Rich people run the media, they run the political parties and they've done a pretty good job at engineering a system to make themselves richer and richer. So I don't see them backing a change to the tax law that hits them while letting the peasants off.
 
well,SEVERE cuts are needed badly for more than just $ reasons. don't quite get whether Musk#s are money that won't be spent per plan or $ that can be recovered. but the fed spending is so convoluted that understanding isn't likely or intended.
 
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