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I think you're still not picking what I'm putting down. The government's reaction was off the deep end. The impact of which we won't fully understand for generations to come.
The worst part about the 'rona shit was how many people - across the entire political spectrum - were willing to not only give up their own freedoms, but actively fight to have the freedoms of other people removed at the same time over what, at best, could be called D+ level propaganda.

People being happy that old people were allowed to die alone in ER isolation rooms because they could point at that and go, "Look, look, we're doing something against covid!" Entire fucking parades protesting the fact that there weren't "re-education" camps for the unvaxxed and no-mask people. Forcing covid patients into nursing homes. Little fascism run rampant and people cheered it.
 
I think you're still not picking what I'm putting down. The government's reaction was off the deep end. The impact of which we won't fully understand for generations to come.

Ah, the Govt's reaction. I was referring to the "People's" reaction. Yes, it (Govts reaction) was way off the deep end, but "by their own design."I'm saying that if more people were to have died, based on what the govt did, it might have triggered an RV 2.0 reaction by the people.
 
Because the amount of control you would need to have is more complex than you think.
You can’t just do a thing. You’ll be labeled a domestic terrorist. You’ll be taken away and thrown in a black hole somewhere, assuming you’re not killed doing whatever it is you want others to do.

You need organization. Order. Leadership. Clear and effective objectives to make progress towards a defensive and well resourced enemy, namely the government I presume.

Because you would need to commit to war. And to be able to war, you would also need to garner the support, resources, numbers of variably skilled individuals, and logistics to wage your war.

Allowed is not the word. Tolerated is more accurate. And what was the 2A written for? To wage war whenever you don’t agree with something? That’s what the opposing side with feel, say and think. Whoever you think is the enemy also thinks they’re the good guys.
You also need the "justice system" to turn a blind eye because they're on your side. Something the left enjoys but we do not.
 
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When, for export only training starts being applied here, many are going to say how it was so great back i2025. That is a one way, dead end road, that all those who have BTDT never want to travel again but,... If/when that fire starts, they damn sure know how to apply gas and rid this rock of all the worthless parasites that have brought this upon us. When its time to 442 up, it well be over for many before they even knew it begin.

That is the crux perhaps of why folks are always talking about "when are folks going to..." in reference to the "best of folks" using "non political/economic means" to win.

Those who have the intelligence, skills, knowledge and ability to do the needful, also know they never want to do that unless there is no other option or choice in order to save their loved ones and families from destruction.

Kind of like that poem from Kipling about the Saxons.

The good folks are not going to start anything non peaceful unless they are forced to against their will.
 
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I was listening to HMFIC rant about Colorado and wondering how did we let it get to this point.

And since I'm not a fucking liberal tard and blame others:

"How did we let it get to this point"

Some self-reflection is in order. As is exercise. Lots of exercise.

Maybe I am a glowie. Are those level IV plates?
 
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First, I’m as sick of this mess as anyone. I am well short of the “50 year old” mark made by someone on here, but if you knew me personally you would know a am absolutely not brainwashed by anything. I can also say, that while I’m sick of the lies, thriving, cheating, and evil corruption in this country, I also know that a revolution absolutely won’t fix this train wreck. It most certainly will tear us the rest of the way apart and I hope you all have been learning Mandarin Chinese cause that will come in quite useful. Sure the taliban withstood us in the Hindu Kush, but that is for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that they have withstood EVERYONE in those mountains. Our overloaded soldiers couldn’t hack those elevations and gradients. Also, we had the most pussified rules of engagement thanks to globalist bush. Don’t think for a moment that the people at the top of this dung hill are going to let us win like the Taliban did. Keep stocking up on medical supplies, water purification, food, ammo, and most importantly keep praying. This is just getting started and it will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does). Keep your powder dry
 
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First, I’m as sick of this mess as anyone. I am well short of the “50 year old” mark made by someone on here, but if you knew me personally you would know a am absolutely not brainwashed by anything. I can also say, that while I’m sick of the lies, thriving, cheating, and evil corruption in this country, I also know that a revolution absolutely won’t fix this train wreck. It most certainly will tear us the rest of the way apart and I hope you all have been learning Mandarin Chinese cause that will come in quite useful. Sure the taliban withstood us in the Hindu Kush, but that is for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that they have withstood EVERYONE in those mountains. Our overloaded soldiers couldn’t hack those elevations and gradients. Also, we had the most pussified rules of engagement thanks to globalist bush. Don’t think for a moment that the people at the top of this dung hill are going to let us win like the Taliban did. Keep stocking up on medical supplies, water purification, food, ammo, and most importantly keep praying. This is just getting started and it will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does). Keep your powder dry
I would also venture to say that the problems we have now set in during the REV1. Corruption is not a 20th or 21st century thing.

So, even a REV2 will still have the same problems. Look at the french. Robespierre was bloodthirsty and had a chippity chop that did not stop. So, what is better about France now then France back then?
 
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Doc said it. You’d see violence and destruction that hasn’t been seen since WW2. They’d firebomb the entire country to hold power and no shortage of supporters/employees to do it.
You do realize how easy it is for someone inside any group to say "Oh hell no" that dog is not going to hunt? All it takes is a single person to fuck up the most perfect plan by any group. People seem to miss the fact w/o 100% of those task on board, the plans are going to leak out. If/when they do they will be the ambush-e,... instead of the ambush-er. The other things most miss is the bulk of those who are the targeted, may have more experience in tactics & ability on a two way, than those coming or the average phone thumbing, clueless lazy ass, that always goes with whatever program is force fed to them and they happily swallow.
Could they get the hard core types, Oh hell yes, but what happens when that word gets out. There are many who have friends that will bring their own shovel at 0230 w/o question, what do you think they will do to those perps or their family's on a time skeg of their choosing? If you are/were near the smoke during those times/events, you & your family's will get tagged w/o a second thought,... once that game is in play.

I don't think most fully understand the type of events that will unfold if it ever kicks off here, let alone all the ankle bitters we have pissed off on this rock over the years, wanting a little pay back their selves while we are trying to fuck over XYZ group.

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This country is full of this type and much worst if you push them into it,
 
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Me, I paid off my truck yesterday, hired a tree service to remove 2 trees and the remaining stumps, have a house moving company lined up to relocate the container and level it on a 16acs of rural family property and will inherit another 6acs adjoining it. I have a shallow well my great grand father had dug over a century ago that will supply enough clean water for me and a 1ac tank for irrigating a garden and animals. I have an existing septic system that is grandfathered and the materials to complete the container build out. Once that is done, I will retire and become the old curmudgeon I was intended to be. Unless it crosses my property line, don't care. Pecan orchard, blackberries, wild plums, persimmon, river bordering the property, garden plot and enough squirrels and wild game and fish to keep me fed. I will buy some chickens and a cow or two, some meat goats and maybe some rabbits. There are enough wild pigs to feed this entire forum. I will completely disconnect from society and will not miss it.

I made a joke in response to a reply to a previous rant of yours, you took it as a direct reply to you, it wasn't, it was to the other member's reply, you didn't see my humor and I honestly don't care.

My only hope is I die enjoying it and not in some ill attempted revolution with a bunch of half hearted asshats not willing to die for their compats.

Tough talk is all fun and games until you get your eyes watered or worse. I just want to be left the fuck alone. I will gladly pay my property taxes for that luxury alone.
 
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Me, I paid off my truck yesterday, hired a tree service to remove 2 trees and the remaining stumps, have a house moving company lined up to relocate the container and level it on a 16acs of rural family property and will inherit another 6acs adjoining it. I have a shallow well my great grand father had dug over a century ago that will supply enough clean water for me and a 1ac tank for irrigating a garden and animals. I have an existing septic system that is grandfathered and the materials to complete the container build out. Once that is done, I will retire and become the old curmudgeon I was intended to be. Unless it crosses my property line, don't care. Pecan orchard, blackberries, wild plums, persimmon, river bordering the property, garden plot and enough squirrels and wild game and fish to keep me fed. I will buy some chickens and a cow or two, some meat goats and maybe some rabbits. There are enough wild pigs to feed this entire forum. I will completely disconnect from society and will not miss it.

I made a joke in response to a reply to a previous rant of yours, you took it as a direct reply to you, it wasn't, it was to the other member's reply, you didn't see my humor and I honestly don't care.

My only hope is I die enjoying it and not in some ill attempted revolution with a bunch of half hearted asshats not willing to die for their compats.

Tough talk is all fun and games until you get your eyes watered or worse. I just want to be left the fuck alone. I will gladly pay my property taxes for that luxury alone.

There is another alternative. Not sure if it will come to fruition in enough time for us seniors to benefit, but there is always hope.

Namely. "The Second Coming." If there's enough of all this LGBTQ-WOKE stuff prevailing, maybe God will say, "That's enough!" and send Jesus again, as forecast in scripture.
 
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@Gunfighter14e2 has the best response, short of rapture, nothing will satisfy me.

We could try to stick together as a cohesive unit, but there are too many freeloaders gaming the system stacked against us to try and make a difference. Every politician, save a handful, are not doing work in our best interest.

I think it would take provocation from a third source to unite the country as a whole to shed blood for change.

That tree of liberty also requires blood of patriots.