Rifle Scopes EoTech? What next?

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  • Jun 5, 2011
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    Anyone know what the deal with them is now? Can't see how they will stay in business and on top of that, fund R&D, etc., if they have to buy back every sight they ever made. I have one that's 13 years old (thereabouts) that they are buying back for (actually more than it cost, but that was in 2004 dollars) PLUS $15 for shipping. I know WHY they have to do this, but I don't know HOW they will survive it. Because the number one replacement for the EoTech I have is, wait for it, another EoTech. I'm not operating in tundras or deserts but I DO live in WA and those temps aren't uncommon at all in Yakima in summer and Rainier in winter (outside the park of course). I'm more apt to reach the higher temperatures, in particular if the rifle is sitting in the sun, in a trunk, etc. --then the sight is shit. I mean, 5MOA drift makes it useless past point shoot range anyway. In addition, I'm sure drift starts at x0 temp and reaches y angle at x1 temp, so what it's doing at say, 100 degrees? What's worse is that the drift doesn't just return to normal when it cools down, no, it's a permanent fuck or until it heats up again and gets worse (or maybe better). It's a fucking coin toss!

    Makes me wonder what the other collimated sights are doing at temp. I'm certainly testing the MRO when I get one. Maybe boil the fucker and pop it back on and see how it does, that's the only way to really know.

    Lucky I never had to rely on this fucking thing, but I know a lot of people that have. It also explains those "WTF?" shots. I always just blamed myself and plus it was used mostly for when I was moving or the target was, so there was that.

    Just pissed and feel like my partner cheated on me. They sold a range toy for $$$ and passed it off as a tier one sight when all along the Bushnell version was just as good because fuck, even if it breaks it's only worth a few bucks. At least I never relied on it so there's that, but it makes me wonder about some of my buddies that did who aren't here. Most bad shit doesn't happen because your sight craps out, but still... They lied and fucked over good people and saw it coming and had enough put away to settle the goddamn suit on day one. That tells you something right there, they saw it coming and charged us all extra in case this happened.

    I bet those goddamn things didn't cost ten bucks to make.

    Funny thing is you can find 'em on Ebay for $300 --they'd get more to email EoTech! Maybe I should become a brokerage for their recall. But settling on day one doesn't make the news and hell, I just found out last week and I'm into this shit all the time.
     
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    Here is my understanding: The sight shifts under extreme temp change. Normal folks will not be affected much. They have huge military contracts and forced to take the action, but it's more political than anything else. Still plenty people happily live with EOtech sight.

    Dont need to worry about the company. EOTEch sight is like their petty cash income, they build advanced optical system on Apache choppers and scanning equipment in Airport, make loads of money...like 100000 time more money than EOtech sights.

    If I were you, I'll polly just keep using the shit, if not under extreme conditions. Or try MRO with the money, good sight, sold mine as I dont like red dot in general. Went to 1x scope and pretty happy so far.
     
    Yeah, the thing is I can reach those ambient temps just outside. And once it shifts, it shifts and stays that way until you fuck with it again or until it gets hot or cold and shifts again. This is them saying this. A full 5MOA shift. If you even plan on deploying this outside a vehicle in summer, it's junk. It will shift on the way to the range!

    I forgot about the whole L3 umbrella. Still, it's a subsidiary and they can cut it loose. I guess I was wondering more about what the CS and such would be like in the future after losing all this. It seems like a complete write off, that was the ONLY sight that PART of the company made. It was a Bushnell sight IIRC. Sure they have that Vudu but I'm not so sure I'd wanna chance it now. I mean, they planned on keeping it hush until outed, then they paid right up so it wouldn't make big news. I'm just finding out about it. Nobody made them do this, they initiated the recall the DAY the lawsuit was announced. Not the day they took a deposition, not the day they got the letter, not the day they found about it in their own lab. They initiated the recall when they got caught and that doesn't sit right with me in any shade.

    People are happy I guess, but what pisses me is what they charged for a range toy. I could have bought a quality sight for that. I'm only lucky in that I never deployed with it and mostly used an ACOG in the army.

    I guess what you are saying is partly true being that it's been this long and I haven't noticed it personally, and it's not a long range optic, but now that I know irons are better, why bother?
     
    Hey thanks, I'll check out that Vortex, it looks a lot like what the EoTech did but the reticle appears WAY better! I've never been a Vortex fan, nothing against them at all, just a new company, but they have stepped up it seems over the years and I may have to give 'em another look. You are the second person to recommend them for a sight like this btw.

    Yeah, I know Aimpoint makes solid stuff, I just never liked my M68. I had the older one with the battery problems, but even had it not had that problem... The MRO isn't much different really with regards to application and appearance --it's a red dot-- but I figure I can make use of it and it's cheaper. It was that reticle and that window that made the EoTech shine --there isn't a faster sight out there IMO.

    But I don't know, maybe that Vortex uh-1 is the way to go, I got to looking at it and after giving them a call, I may get one. This one isn't made the same, so maybe it doesn't have that issue. It couldn't have come out at a better time for them. Wonder how much it would have went for had this mess with EoTech not materialized?

    Anybody have one of these yet?
     
    Hey thanks, I'll check out that Vortex, it looks a lot like what the EoTech did but the reticle appears WAY better! I've never been a Vortex fan, nothing against them at all, just a new company, but they have stepped up it seems over the years and I may have to give 'em another look. You are the second person to recommend them for a sight like this btw.

    Yeah, I know Aimpoint makes solid stuff, I just never liked my M68. I had the older one with the battery problems, but even had it not had that problem... The MRO isn't much different really with regards to application and appearance --it's a red dot-- but I figure I can make use of it and it's cheaper. It was that reticle and that window that made the EoTech shine --there isn't a faster sight out there IMO.

    But I don't know, maybe that Vortex uh-1 is the way to go, I got to looking at it and after giving them a call, I may get one. This one isn't made the same, so maybe it doesn't have that issue. It couldn't have come out at a better time for them. Wonder how much it would have went for had this mess with EoTech not materialized?

    Anybody have one of these yet?

    UH-1s haven't started to go out to dealers quite yet.

    Like you said, the MRO wold be a good option.

    I'm looking forward to putting the Sig Romeo 4T through its paces.

     
    Edit: the first link I went to at Eotech was a dead link. Now I found the right page with the lawyers. Still wondering about the magnifier but maybe the FAQ will have some info on that.
    Anyone have a link handy for the recall form? I have about 4. What about the magnifier? Without the Eotechs I don't need that anymore!
     
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    My love for EOTech went out the window years ago. They marketed the original Holosight as suitable for USPSA/IPSC Open division 38 Super race guns. I went through 3 of them in less than 6 months and had to fight tooth and nail to get EOTech to warranty them (the refused to on the last one). Their professionally sponsored shooters couldn't even get the sights to work on their guns and the team was disbanded after a short time.
     
    L3 bought eotech a while back but the original CEO and a couple others from eotech that hid the issues got slaps on the wrists, while L3 ended up paying for the former CEO's misdeeds and probably used the $26million to DOJ as a tax write off (loss). L3 has much bigger contracts and wouldn't want to jeopardize anything related to DoD contracts, i believe they had set that money aside well before according to one of their quarterly SEC filings.