upcoming GA election and the mid-terms thereafter

[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

All,

I'm worried about this election in GA where the Dem candidate is very money'd and could buy the election and the House seat. This would set a dangerous rallying cry for the mid-terms. I've never gotten involved in party politics as frankly I can't really stand either side or their ardent supporters but I'd rather have this lot than that lot.

I'd be grateful for any positive republican facts and figures that could be collated and presented to local campaigns for them to use as talking points. Something along the lines of 'what has Trump/republicans done for you lately' data sheet.

It could be local jobs,
It could be better local LEO funding
It could be .... you get the picture.

I think the main national level taking points will be taken care, it's the stuff that happens at the community level that is most felt at the local election levels so a 'data base' of good points could only be an asset. I hope.

If possible, it'd be great to try and treat this a non-BS thread, it's in all our interests to stave off the Dems and their super pacs and ensure we at least get a full 4 years rather than a 2yr abortion...

Thanks,

 

[MtnCreek]

I think the lesson here will be despite the 8 million the dem raised to the ~1/2 mil ea / leading reps, they still can't pull it off. There was a similar election for Pompeo's seat. The result will be the same here, I think.

 

[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

I guess we'll see. I'm wondering what the H1B Visa and Outsourcing EO will do.

 

[PolarisBreach]

So the tablets that poll workers use to check in voters and validate signatures were stolen the day after early voting ended. No way this was a random theft. I wouldn't put either party above pulling this shit, but my money is on the blue team given all the dirty election games they've played in recent history...

I do think the poll worker was targeted, but they need to hammer him. If a doctor lost 600,000 unencrypted patient records because he left them in his personal vehicle that he can't remember if he locked while running personal errands, that doctor would get fined to hell and then thrown in prison.

 

[pmclaine]

Getting control of the border, crossings down dramatically, deportations up. APOG hows your paperwork these days?

Putting the world on notice the US is not a push over

My 401K is up 17K in one quarter. Actually Im missing a statement maybe its 34K.

Neil Gorsuch, not Merrick Garland, is yuuuuuge. Ruth is that a cough you have or something else...?

T hasn't done everything right but if you have to explain plusses vs minuses they aint voting R anyway.

 

[NY700]

I guess we'll see. I'm wondering what the H1B Visa and Outsourcing EO will do.

Generally I would say this EO will impact two areas, farmers who can no get low skilled Americans to work crops typically handled by migrant workers, and tech positions where we in this country lack the numbers to fill programming positions


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[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

Generally I would say this EO will impact two areas, farmers who can no get low skilled Americans to work crops typically handled by migrant workers, and tech positions where we in this country lack the numbers to fill programming positions


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Do farmers apply for H1B visas? I wouldn't have thought so but could be wrong.

The IT, I would agree. My route to becoming a US Citizen was through work visa. The company who hired me from the UK advertised the position openly and that was how I applied. One thing led to another and hey presto. I had an H1B, met a nice fat American girl (thanks AJ...) and got the green card, had kids, became a Citizen...

And before anyone whines about me being a leach, I paid well into the 6 figures in federal taxes last year.... Thanks Obama...

 

[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

Guys - this was very close to being a shut out. The candidate who got into the run off with the Dem got 20% compared to the Dem who got 40%. Granted now the Rep. will get the other Rep. votes as an immediate lift but it's not 'safe'. There is going to be a whole strategy I reckon around mid-terms based on how this one plays out.

 

[pmclaine]

The Dem strategy is how much do we need to spend to buy the election.

It will be interesting.

I think that now the Rs will have the one candidate to support the consolidation of votes will be the determining factor.

I agree it is not a safe seat but if the repubs win it will be another case of bleeding the dem money machine.

In the meantime lets hope Soros gets a severe cold.

 

[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

Dems have the money. The EO on outsourcing, visas, and others will ensure the large corps. now, ironically, are going to be Dem sponsors. There is a direct conflict between the wants of the common man and the desires of the corps. This is the new reality - human capital is now increasingly an expense as opposed to a contributor to productivity. I'm in the automation, efficiency, analysis business and I meet with a lot of C-level execs in discussions of their 5 yr plans on tech investments and corp. strategies.

I've spent the last 5 years working my way out of being in a salaried position. This year I'll be in private equity and fully on cap. gains. It wasn't just for taxes savings, see a lot of positions that are white collar and high dollar going south in terms of pay and availability. A large amount of IT jobs - DBAs, Security, Upgrades, Maintenance of Systems/Interfaces are going overseas or being automated. There is going to a shortage of those positions rather than availability of positions for Americans. There is nothing Trump can or will do about off-shore cloud for infrastructure and the folks who want it the most are the corps.

The future of the repubs. has to be to become the party of the individual again, but I don't see that happening. I don't particularly like Gorsuch, he's a corporatist and I suspect he sees the role of the Founders as the corporates of the time and the Constitution framed as such. While it will be nice for me in regards the pocketbook, long term, it's not a good look for the nation as a whole.

This post has really rambled all over the place. Sorry.

 

[pmclaine]

Who do these corporations plan on selling their shit to if no one works?

Im not getting the end game.

Guaranteed minimum income suspends the laws of economics its not a solution.

 

[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

Who do these corporations plan on selling their shit to if no one works?

Im not getting the end game.

Guaranteed minimum income suspends the laws of economics its not a solution.

It's actually a really good question I've asked myself. In a recent meeting with a Chief Risk Officer a major domestic bank he was saying that the bank wants to launch a new set of products aimed at a specific demographic with a good risk/reward profile. My response was, but they're the ones who are most likely to see volatility in income and employment given the culling of mid-corporate and IT centric jobs that the bank's own investments will bring.

The idea is this - change is a constant. Just because Joe the DBA or Simon the Security Specialist get laid off by the bank, who's to say they'll remain unemployed? They'll either go work somewhere else, or they'll retrain. There is a certain type of person who will self-train and self-manage his career and earning potential. Then are people who are "I've only ever done this and now it's going away...". The latter are in for a harder time in the future than 'change' has previously affected.

I've retrained and completely changed my career path twice. Once thanks to market forces the other because I saw the writing on the wall (most recent change). I've little sympathy for folks who knew they were heading for a waterfall and didn't make plans to change course. Just because you've always been 'something' doesn't mean you can expect to always be doing that forever. It's a cold wake up call when you realize that market forces are as cruel and indifferent as Mother Nature. I hear folks say they're for free markets but want .Gov to protect their industries, jobs etc. It's not free if it's protected...

 

[pmclaine]

But people don't have that "need" to retrain anymore.

If they get layed off they just get picked up by the safety net and migrate to the couch.

Detroit would be 100 percent abandoned now except people cling there with mouths agape waiting for Uncle Sam to come and vomit in their maws monthly.

This safety net in my area provides a potential $50K yearly value if you play the game to the full extent.

How do employers compete against that "starting salary".

We wouldn't need migrant workers or H1B visas if businesses did not have to compete against the salary the government will pay people to do nothing.

The governments position isn't one of compassion. Its a plan of destroying independence in exchange for secured votes.

So its okay to force migrant workers/H1B workers perform at less than market value while paying people to sit on their asses?

If that is the plan its short sighted/self defeating.

 

[APintOfGuinnessPlease!]

But people don't have that "need" to retrain anymore.

If they get layed off they just get picked up by the safety net and migrate to the couch.

Detroit would be 100 percent abandoned now except people cling there with mouths agape waiting for Uncle Sam to come and vomit in their maws monthly.

This safety net in my area provides a potential $50K yearly value if you play the game to the full extent.

How do employers compete against that "starting salary".

We wouldn't need migrant workers or H1B visas if businesses did not have to compete against the salary the government will pay people to do nothing.

The governments position isn't one of compassion. Its a plan of destroying independence in exchange for secured votes.

So its okay to force migrant workers/H1B workers perform at less than market value while paying people to sit on their asses?

If that is the plan its short sighted/self defeating.

Hey man, from here amongst the choir you're looking good...