What the Pro's in the PRS and NRL use when surveyed by Cal Zant.
https://precisionrifleblog.com/2019/01/05/best-rifle-barrel-2/
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Definitely glad I bought a Proof M24 profile barrel LOL. A couple of my precision shooting friends thought I was making a bad move. 
Monkey see - monkey do in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....................
I mean, monkey see monkey do with Bartlein barrels doesn’t seem like a big problem haha.
The problem comes when idiots begin to argue that no other barrel is worth having because of some poll results.
There all tomato stakes unless you know how to use them.
My thoughts exactly. I picked Proof even before this article came out because I had shot a couple rifles with their barrels on there.......
...... And it was on super duper Christmas sale at Stock's
It happens a lot at arfcom and m4carbine.net (both are a retard fest). But this place isn't immune
The main problem with anything on the PRB is that the "Pro's" he's using for the poll are just using what they're told by their sponsor, lol. They use that equipment because its given to them to use for advertising, most of those guys could probably win with a Tasco scope from Walmart vs a Nightforce.
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I dunno, I'm in that poll and I paid full retail for every piece of gear I listed in that survey.
I could shoot with a Tasco, sure but I'm gonna have a heck of a lot harder time winning with it vs my current setup.
Thank you for your input. Regular folk like me appreciate it.
Not quite at <that> level of sponsorship yet to be sold out for lame polls - and it's pretty simple - the reward of using a proven barrel that wins stuff for others outweighs the risk of trying a different barrel mfg.
Good thing there's a million and one of us non-match winners that can try shit out
Good thing there's a million and one of us non-match winners that can try shit out
Sometimes I think people don’t realize how little real sponsorship there is in shooting.
Except for at the very top, most everyone pays for their own equipment, sometimes with a discount, but not a huge one.
Most jersey shooters aren’t getting much of anything from the companies on the jersey.
And rightfully so. Who bought something recently because Matt B, or Vibbert, or Velayo runs it? Sure, and handful probably did, but not enough to warrant a full on sponsorship.
Except for at the very top, most everyone pays for their own equipment, sometimes with a discount, but not a huge one.
Most jersey shooters aren’t getting much of anything from the companies on the jersey.
And rightfully so. Who bought something recently because Matt B, or Vibbert, or Velayo runs it? Sure, and handful probably did, but not enough to warrant a full on sponsorship.
I am curious if the 6.5 CM would have any major demand if it weren't for PRS - seems like a new guy won't be getting a 308 now unless he doesn't read up and get marketing peer pressure to have the better BC
6.5cm blew up with hunters before PRS.
90% or more people I know that shoot, dont even know what PRS is and they are hunting with 6.5 creed.
I like PRS, and it has spurred great innovation of rifle equipment. Some very talented shooters for sure. However, sometimes I feel it goes a little far with the price of the commonly used gear, and pressures people to get rid of stuff that works just fine in favor of ridiculously expensive gear that may not always be necessary. I'm a working joe, and I have some nice gear but sometimes I look at this stuff and shake my head at the cost.
I look at it like cars... You're drooling your whole life over the special edition Mustang in the Ford showroom thinking it's fast as hell... Then you learn about cars and build your own for "about the same price" plus tools and blow that Mustangs doors off
A tribute to my regional defect - I only personally know duck hunters and learned of this very different world via random podcast download a few years ago. More history lessons needed here :/
PRS (the sport and the organization) are small potatoes in the gun world overall.
Many companies’ best selling optics are moa, mainly because of hunters or recreational non competing shooters.
We tend to forget this and let egos get involved.
Same here. But I may have used an optics planet code or two lol.
I bought a proof 308 barrel for my 308 gas gun when they were first hitting the market for the weight saving. On my bolt guns I run Schneider barrels. I really like his p5 rifiling and when you call Schneider barrels since there is no online ordering Gary Schneider picks up the phone and takes your order. Well he did when I placed my last order. There was always someone answering the phone to field any questions I had.
Best selling food is McDonald's, but I sometimes think it isn't the right thing to eat. Then I realize I don't know a chef or have time to custom order a real lunch, and it's Big Mac no onions.
The gun world is funny, but not too different. Economy of scale for the average Joe...
The weight of those systems...egad. If I wanna shoot PRS with an M240L for giggles, is that kosher? Same damn weight, I’ll take the machine gun .
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Heavy varmint is a heavier contour and is common. If you compare that to no taper at all (benchrest style) you would be adding ounces not pounds. If you want to talk about weight the barrel contour is much less contributing than all the chassis weight systems that are out there. Most of these can add between five and ten pounds. This is a point of contention with a lot of marksmen. Some people think it's gaming to shoot a 6/6.5 that weighs 25+lbs.The weight of those systems...egad. If I wanna shoot PRS with an M240L for giggles, is that kosher? Same damn weight, I’ll take the machine gun
Personally, in terms of inertia, recoil, stability, and everything else I am a big believer in a heavier rifle. How heavy to me is more dictated by how much you want to lug through 25 stages. I shoot a very heavy rifle, and I know I shoot it better than a really light one. There are occasional advantages to being a large sized person, and one is that it doesn't bother me to carry a very heavy rifle.
I walk all day pheasant hunting with a 12lb A5.
I carry a 16 lb rifle in the mountains for elk.
An M-60 weighs 24 lbs empty. Add a couple of belts and you're easily talking 50lbs.
I hardly notice carrying a 20 lb rifle through the stages at a match, because you're really NOT carrying it all day. You're moving it from one spot to another and walking for 5-10 minutes. I don't see myself having a problem with that till I've lost the rest of my hair and I'm about 30 years older.
I will never criticize folks for gaming a game...that's the point, right? You do what you can, within the rules, to win. USPSA/IPSC have weight limitations on pistol classes for exactly that reason - no matter what discipline you shoot, weight = better recoil management...if you're willing to pay for it. Clearly, lots of folks think that's an easy choice to make.
It caught me as a surprise - I remember thinking about a 15-16 lb rifle system as being hefty...and this is way beyond that. The difference between an M249 and an M240 was what jumped in my head. Funnily enough, no one wants to carry the 240, but it's definitely what you want when it's time to shoot stuff. A better analogy than I thought.
It caught me as a surprise - I remember thinking about a 15-16 lb rifle system as being hefty...and this is way beyond that. The difference between an M249 and an M240 was what jumped in my head. Funnily enough, no one wants to carry the 240, but it's definitely what you want when it's time to shoot stuff. A better analogy than I thought.
I have a Proof M24 profile barrel and I can say that this barrel is for professionals. If a person who has never held a gun in his life takes it in hands, then the surrounding people will be in danger
Not only does this not make sense, but you managed to sound like a trolling fool at the same time.
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I don't know if you should. From the sounds of it anyone around it could be in danger, from it exploding I presume. Better go with a 100% ported pencil thin one for the safety of those around you as well as yourself.
None of these people (perhaps maybe 1 or 2), are considered a "professional" by any accepted definition. They are all weekend hobbyists - so I wouldn't get too wrapped up in the "pro" designation.
Good information for someone wanting to get into the sport to see what barrel brands and contours they should be looking at though.
Good information for someone wanting to get into the sport to see what barrel brands and contours they should be looking at though.
Who's this guy?! Sounds like a shill for Krieger! Let's go find the guy from Tac Ops and see what he uses... ;-)Very Happy with Krieger
Mike R.
I have a 6.5 CM in a JAE chassis.....and it has a Proof SS M24 barrel in 7.5 twist and finished at 24".
Took my son, who has never shot rifles before this one outing, to shoot it and......wow, no innocent bystanders were endangered, no women screaming and clutching children to their skirts, no old men say "oh, the horror, the horror". We must have been doing it wrong.
While I don't think I'm one of the Hide members to be the first to jump on a post/poster for being a bit dim, I do think this may rank up there as one of the most idiotic posts of the year (but, its only 1 Apr so who knows what other contenders may appear.
I'm not one of you expert marksman guys but I'm working at it and enjoying every bit of it. I have no complaints about this barrel at all except its dang heavy. Yeah, I'm 68 with a bad lumbar so there is that to consider.
A lot...there is a reason why some smiths have a reputation that sets them apart from others.
It is funny how 20 years ago or so Shilen and Hart where at the top of barrel lists. Then about ten years ago when PRB started blogging numbers went down to almost completely cut barrels. With 5 button manufacturers listed looks like they are coming back around.
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I still hear good things about Hart, just not as loudly/often as Bartlein and the like. Which is good, cause I got two of them coming soon
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