OK peasant take this

Anyone who would ever enforce such a thing ain’t American.
Does that apply to the 2A as well? As it seems we are very short of Americans, from where I'm setting. They are wanting an pushing for a civil war, the Trumps Dozier is the only thing stopping them right now.
 
Blah blah. They laying the smack down, VA is bending over and taking it and nobody is going to do anything. Welcome to the new America. Liberty will be gone in short order. I’ve been hearing about people waiting for the right Opp since I was a boy, roughly 37 years now I’ve heard the same thing. Face it, this is the new reality. People can chest beat all they want but the reality is, most people follow most laws and even when they are against liberty and the constitution people still let it go and don’t do anything. We reap what we sow. The end of America, as we have known it, is here. We should stop wasting energy in an echo chamber.
 
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Alien and sedition acts 1798
Interesting read.
I was thinking along these lines:
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Correct me to f I am wrong but, could they not just use existing “ terroristic threats “ laws?

Seems redundant and is only trying to provoke a reaction.
 
"Whenyou have 10,000 regulations, you destroy all respect for law",
-Winston Churchill

When everything becomes illegal, everything becomes legal...

There are much more worse and brutal forms of "criticism" than online tweets, memes, and "threats". It looks like they are so desperately wanting for that phase to happen.
 
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"Whenyou have 10,000 regulations, you destroy all respect for law",
-Winston Churchill

When everything becomes illegal, everything becones legal...

There are much more worse and brutal forms of "criticism" than online tweets, memes, and "threats". It looks like they are so desperately wanting for that phase to happen.
Child psychology suggests they'll tolerate no criticism as they know they're doing wrong.
Snowflakes snowflaking.

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The good news about this new full frontal assault on the 1st amendment, is that unlike the 2nd amendment that half the country seems to think shouldn't exist, a lot of the supposed "voting base" for the SJW types is going to be rather upset about this law and it may finally wake some people up to see the Democrats for the full on Communist dictators they really are.
 
The good news about this new full frontal assault on the 1st amendment, is that unlike the 2nd amendment that half the country seems to think shouldn't exist, a lot of the supposed "voting base" for the SJW types is going to be rather upset about this law and it may finally wake some people up to see the Democrats for the full on Communist dictators they really are.
Possibly, don't believe they'll be upset of it's the "Right" people being silenced.

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Most are awake an just waiting for the right opportunity to present it's self, with this they are getting very close to that.
There have been plenty of opportunities to fight this within the legal system, but no one has been. If this eruption of violence happens like they hoped for monday, they get what they want, and they win.
 
The good news about this new full frontal assault on the 1st amendment, is that unlike the 2nd amendment that half the country seems to think shouldn't exist, a lot of the supposed "voting base" for the SJW types is going to be rather upset about this law and it may finally wake some people up to see the Democrats for the full on Communist dictators they really are.
1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, and once it gets to federal level kiss 9 and 10 goodbye too.
 
Possibly, don't believe they'll be upset of it's the "Right" people being silenced.

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You are quite correct. So just figure out how to get the law used when a Democrat talks against a Republican and that law will be gone so fast the judges will be fighting each other to issue an immediate injunction.
 
Interesting read.
I was thinking along these lines:
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I know this is a deadly serious topic but every time I see this Voltaire graphic I think of:

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I went through chemo as a kid so I think I'm allowed to post this?

More on topic - I think intersectionality is the reason these sorts of speech-limiting actions are now popular on the left. IE, it's ok to tell other people their speech isn't allowable as long as you tick the right boxes and can claim to be more virtuous. In this case, we (your leaders) are doing the right thing so we shall not be criticized. This trend has to be infuriating for old-school liberals who spent their youth demanding for free speech and the right to protest.
 
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We've always said, that if the 2nd Amendment falls, the rest are not far behind. They're just getting their ducks in a row to relieve us of our additional Constitutional Rights, starting with the 1st, after they destroy the 2nd.
 
Well, time will tell but so far it’s going ok for them.
They an apparently you, do not understand how Americans think or act when the wolf approaching at the door. If you look at history there were street executions of what we call today patriots, that were called in today's terms terrorists prior to 4-19-1775. They railroaded people, by taking what freedoms an property they had back then. Americans as a whole have always been slow to concede to violence. However once they start as a whole it has never ended well for anyone in our history.
Internet flash talkers are just that nothing more than a flash in the pan, then you have those who think provoking a CW is entertaining, plus these days you have paid provocateurs from the other side trying their damn'est to stir the pot, via their chosen venues. You do not want a CW, many don't think things thru enough to understand this whole rock will change if that happens here. An it will not play out like many would have you believe. When the gloves come off it will get ugly not only here but in places where the so called untouchable WILL get touched. If it's going to be a complete burn down it's going to happen all over this rock as well,...
Some people need to get out more,....
 
I know this is a deadly serious topic but every time I see this Voltaire graphic I think of:

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I went through chemo as a kid so I think I'm allowed to post this?

More on topic - I think intersectionality is the reason these sorts of speech-limiting actions are now popular on the left. IE, it's ok to tell other people their speech isn't allowable as long as you tick the right boxes and can claim to be more virtuous. In this case, we (your leaders) are doing the right thing so we shall not be criticized. This trend has to be infuriating for old-school liberals who spent their youth demanding for free speech and the right to protest.
The history of the word "intersectionality" is telling in the founding of these "ideals".

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Well, time will tell but so far it’s going ok for them.
The French, who we often deride as cowards, apparently have more resolve against an elected party that rides roughshod over the People.
(I know, it's the Left revolting over there. But it is again about the rulers ignoring popular sentiment that is not even guaranteed by their constitution)

There are millions of unarmed people raising hell everywhere in the world against tyrannical goverments.

And here it's: "Come, take them".
Well, that's what they are doing, as far as our RIGHTS are concerned.

If we are only waiting for 'the right time' to use our precious toys, we are going to loose a whole lot more than those.
 
The good news about this new full frontal assault on the 1st amendment, is that unlike the 2nd amendment that half the country seems to think shouldn't exist, a lot of the supposed "voting base" for the SJW types is going to be rather upset about this law and it may finally wake some people up to see the Democrats for the full on Communist dictators they really are.


Many of the non-political benign hipsters, significant numbers which populate most large cities, will be apalled at this latest development. That is why the orderly, friendly and peaceful atmosphere presented by the participants of the 1/20/20 Lobby Day is so important. We need the common people to see us as protective neighbors, not instigators or fringe extremists...
 
If we are only waiting for 'the right time' to use our precious toys, we are going to loose a whole lot more than those.
Those toys will play a very, very, limited roll if what many are hoping for happens.
j-huskey said it best,... many want, think, an need is instant gratification. That is not the way America an Americans think, work, or act. The new breed has to have everything now,...that has an will continue to cause many down falls,...
edit for fat fingers again,...
 
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In mutilation of a famous anti-Holocaust poem I submit this:


First they came for the voting rules
And I did not speak out
Because I still had my AR (and am too busy to vote anyway)

Then they came for freedom of speech against the 'King'
And I did not speak out
Because I still had my AR (and nobody listens to me anyway)

Then they came for the right of free assembly
And I did not speak out
Because I still had my AR (and like to stay in my basement)

Then they came for the right to train and 'march'
And I did not speak out
Because I still had my AR (and am already operator as fuck)

Then they came for my AR
And I gave it to them
Because they had already outlawed Me, my Rights, and my Life


Still waiting for the "right time", the "spark", whatever?


PS: If you don't know what I am referring to in the poem, watch this to the end:



PPS: Please, do not go 'full retard' and endanger Trump's re-election. But the longer you stay silent, the more rights (not just guns) you will loose in VA. It would be the best IMO to forcefully protest this total power grab with anything but guns at this point
 
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Many of the non-political benign hipsters, significant numbers which populate most large cities, will be apalled at this latest development. That is why the orderly, friendly and peaceful atmosphere presented by the participants of the 1/20/20 Lobby Day is so important. We need the common people to see us as protective neighbors, not instigators or fringe extremists...
Completely wrong prediction, IMO.

They are spinning this total power grab to be just about guns, the hipsters will cheer them on against the 'gun toting rednecks', not realizing that EVERY citizen will loose their rights and means to ever get rid of these traitors or hold them responsible.

Please watch the video above, especially past 6:15
 
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They an apparently you, do not understand how Americans think or act when the wolf approaching at the door. If you look at history there were street executions of what we call today patriots, that were called in today's terms terrorists prior to 4-19-1775. They railroaded people, by taking what freedoms an property they had back then. Americans as a whole have always been slow to concede to violence. However once they start as a whole it has never ended well for anyone in our history.
Internet flash talkers are just that nothing more than a flash in the pan, then you have those who think provoking a CW is entertaining, plus these days you have paid provocateurs from the other side trying their damn'est to stir the pot, via their chosen venues. You do not want a CW, many don't think things thru enough to understand this whole rock will change if that happens here. An it will not play out like many would have you believe. When the gloves come off it will get ugly not only here but in places where the so called untouchable WILL get touched. If it's going to be a complete burn down it's going to happen all over this rock as well,...
Some people need to get out more,....
Those toys will play a very, very, limited roll if what many are hoping for happens.
j-huskey said it best,... many want, think, an need is instant gratification. That is not the way America an Americans think, work, or act. The new breed has to have everything now,...that has an will continue to cause many down falls,...
edit for fat fingers again,...

Nobody wants a damn civil war. As I’ve said in the past, anyone that has seen the ravages of what war, especially a civil war can bring on a country and their fellow men, would never wish that upon anyone. But, I’m getting tired of this so called waiting for the right time. Nobody is doing anything really.

Frankly, I was shocked by the turnout in VA, not because I think there is a lack of patriots but a lack of active ones. Regardless, a damn protest ain’t really going to have any bearing on these people. If that didn’t scare the shit out of them then nothing will aside from showing up at their mansion in the middle of the night in masks making a valid point and leaving them thinking they need to think twice about trampling on anymore rights. But to be honest I’m not even sure that will work.

If this so called playbook rolls out across the US, like the masters intend, then are we going to do something? My point is that people can keep saying we are going to wait until the opportune time to do something until it’s too late. As I’ve said, I’ve heard that statement for damn near 37 years now. Why wait? We should get active now, start mobilizing, start training together, put a positive notion out in public about militias instead of the bad rep they get now, get younger people shooting, donate more to orgs that support our cause, encourage likeminded people to get in politics and so on. The same crap we’ve been saying but probably fail to do. I think this is in large part because our side doesn’t know what to do and has nobody leading them.

Protests aren’t going to work and frankly I’m not sure why everyone jumps to this civil war bullshit. Stop, just stop. That’s not going to happen, ever. And anyone claiming such is only fooling themselves. This ain’t some fantasyland BS. Start putting that energy in local communities. We have to change this from the inside out. It’s that simple or that hard depending on how you look at it. Yes, it’s a mountain but I don’t see a mountain, I see opportunity. Climb that mountain one step at a time and leave positive vibes for gun owners in your wake. That’s how we win this. We, as a community are always on the defensive, always. It’s time to be on the offensive and shut this stuff down.
 
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Nobody wants a damn civil war. As I’ve said in the past, anyone that has seen the ravages of what war, especially a civil war can bring on a country and their fellow men, would never wish that upon anyone. But, I’m getting tired of this so called waiting for the right time. Nobody is doing anything really.

Frankly, I was shocked by the turnout in VA, not because I think there is a lack of patriots but a lack of active ones. Regardless, a damn protest ain’t really going to have any bearing on these people. If that didn’t scare the shit out of them then nothing will aside from showing up at their mansion in the middle of the night in masks making a valid point and leaving them thinking they need to think twice about trampling on anymore rights. But to be honest I’m not even sure that will work.

If this so called playbook rolls out across the US, like the masters intend, then are we going to do something? My point is that people can keep saying we are going to wait until the opportune time to do something until it’s too late. As I’ve said, I’ve heard that statement for damn near 37 years now. Why wait? We should get active now, start mobilizing, start training together, put a positive notion out in public about militias instead of the bad rep they get now, get younger people shooting, donate more to orgs that support our cause, encourage likeminded people to get in politics and so on. The same crap we’ve been saying but probably fail to do. I think this is in large part because our side doesn’t know what to do and has nobody leading them.

Protests aren’t going to work and frankly I’m not sure why everyone jumps to this civil war bullshit. Stop, just stop. That’s not going to happen, ever. And anyone claiming such is only fooling themselves. This ain’t some fantasyland BS. Start putting that energy in local communities. We have to change this from the inside out. It’s that simple or that hard depending on how you look at it. Yes, it’s a mountain but I don’t see a mountain, I see opportunity. Climb that mountain one step at a time and leave positive vibes for gun owners in your wake. That’s how we win this. We, as a community our always on the defensive, always. It’s time to be on the offensive and shut this stuff down.

Protests aren’t going to work and frankly I’m not sure why everyone jumps to this civil war bullshit.

Monday was a rally, not a protest. It was more peaceful than a 'riot' in Switzerland.



If you do not know what a protest is, google Hong Kong, Iran, France. There are plenty of options between a rally and a full blown civil war.

get younger people shooting

Why not, but realize that it is way too late to change the minds of the next wave of voters who overwhelmingly think that Socialism is a good idea. If nobody gets off their asses against this ideology anytime soon, I actually have no problem leaving the millenials to choke on the shit they vote for. I have no kids in this country and will be dead before the USA is another Venezuela.

However, focusing your energy on local militias is a good idea, IMO. Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
 
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Protests aren’t going to work and frankly I’m not sure why everyone jumps to this civil war bullshit.

Monday was a rally, not a protest. It was more peaceful than a 'riot' in Switzerland.



If you do not know what a protest is, google Hong Kong, Iran, France. There are plenty of options between a rally and a full blown civil war.

get younger people shooting

Why not, but realize that it is way too late to change the minds of the next wave of voters who overwhelmingly think that Socialism is a good idea. If nobody gets off their asses against this ideology anytime soon, I actually have no problem leaving the millenials to choke on the shit they vote for. I have no kids in this country and will be dead before the USA is another Venezuela.

However, focusing your energy on local militias is a good idea, IMO. Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.


Meh, rally’s and protests are the same to me, both are inconsequential and are for the most part unproductive.
 
Meh, rally’s and protests are the same to me, both are inconsequential and are for the most part unproductive.
Ok, this is -still- a free country. So do what you think is best, load some ammo, train and prepare yourself for the day that hopefully never comes. Consider yourself the civilian version of the ballistic missile sub that lurks in the shadows to lay waste on someone who went too far.

But on the global stage, we do not sit idle until we have to nuke someone. We use economical sanctions and other means to get the point across. Unfortunately, the People do not have the rights and means for drone strikes on domestic enemies, so we have to come up with some other strikes that are within the legal and practical realm.

Mass protests have changed a lot of things in this and other countries. If the rulers choose to fire at unarmed protesters (as they have done before in this country) then by all means be there and go full retard.
 
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It is natural for man to indulge in the illusion of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms is into beasts. Is this, the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the state for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentleman had been pleased to solace themselves? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition had been lately received?

Trust it not gentlemen, it will prove to be a snare at your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed by a kiss.