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Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph
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The new update should stop that.
Wow!, finally broke down and picked one up. I have borrowed a buddy's a few times to see how it worked. I haven't had a chance to shoot yet so I do have a couple questions.
I did download the app and paired it, did not elect to use the cloud.
1-Without a session, is there a way to start adding firearms in the app?
2-Once I do have data, is there a method to add a target picture to go with a session or to note a particular shot?
3-Do I need to pair the two each time or I simply export data and add it later on the app or once exported is the data automatic?
Please take note my computer repair kit is a 3lb. mallet
Mark
I did download the app and paired it, did not elect to use the cloud.
1-Without a session, is there a way to start adding firearms in the app?
2-Once I do have data, is there a method to add a target picture to go with a session or to note a particular shot?
3-Do I need to pair the two each time or I simply export data and add it later on the app or once exported is the data automatic?
Please take note my computer repair kit is a 3lb. mallet
Mark
Within the ShotView app itself, I believe that these answers are correct.
1-Without a session, is there a way to start adding firearms in the app?
No. There are no firearm profiles stored in the app. At the end of a session and after the session is transferred to the phone app, you can rename the session to something more meaningful.
2-Once I do have data, is there a method to add a target picture to go with a session or to note a particular shot?
At the end of each session and after the session is transferred to the phone app, you can add notes. You cannot add pictures.
3-Do I need to pair the two each time or I simply export data and add it later on the app or once exported is the data automatic?
No. You do not need to pair the Xero to the app each time you use it. You can create many sessions on the Xero and once paired to the app, all the sessions that have not been transferred will then be transferred.
It would be nice if Garmin did add:
- the ability to create/store rifle profiles
- the ability to copy session names and notes to another session or reuse names and notes from a previous session.
- the ability store pictures for a session
- the ability to link to a Kestrel to store environmental data for the session
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Those would be an excellent addition. I would expect them to consider this stuff as I'm certain competitors will introduce a competing product.
I can confirm it does. My 60 round 300prc session was shot over two weekends.
Hey guys,
Wanted to post an update that we finally released some more additions to our Garmin accessory lineup-- full production of our rubber, molded protective cases for the Garmin Xero finally arrived. We made these with and without a sunshade for those that prefer one or the other (though the sunshade also does great at deflecting impacts away from the screen when dropped or with brass / debris flying around). These are made the same way iPhone / Android cases are made and fit tight and with no slop at all.
https://annexdefense.com/tools-accessories/garmin-xero-accessories/
Wanted to post an update that we finally released some more additions to our Garmin accessory lineup-- full production of our rubber, molded protective cases for the Garmin Xero finally arrived. We made these with and without a sunshade for those that prefer one or the other (though the sunshade also does great at deflecting impacts away from the screen when dropped or with brass / debris flying around). These are made the same way iPhone / Android cases are made and fit tight and with no slop at all.
https://annexdefense.com/tools-accessories/garmin-xero-accessories/
Do you know if the sun shade model will fit in a pelican 1040?Hey guys,
Wanted to post an update that we finally released some more additions to our Garmin accessory lineup-- full production of our rubber, molded protective cases for the Garmin Xero finally arrived. We made these with and without a sunshade for those that prefer one or the other (though the sunshade also does great at deflecting impacts away from the screen when dropped or with brass / debris flying around). These are made the same way iPhone / Android cases are made and fit tight and with no slop at all.
https://annexdefense.com/tools-accessories/garmin-xero-accessories/
Yes, it does. It has maybe 1-2mm to spare, which stops it from flopping around which is a nice added benefit.
So, forgive me if this has been covered (but I don't want to read 55+ pages of BS right now lol)...
But, I figured the Xero would import weather info (degF/inHg/%) and attach it to the different sessions on its own or via the ShotView App..?
My ~$150 old-school ProChrono DLX with its Digital Link App does this.
Que?
But, I figured the Xero would import weather info (degF/inHg/%) and attach it to the different sessions on its own or via the ShotView App..?
My ~$150 old-school ProChrono DLX with its Digital Link App does this.
Que?
I have a feeling Garmin is going to outdo itself soon, with a shitload of integration. The market is wide open, and they can build off this Xero cash cow.
I just found/find it strange.
I'm kind of late to the party buying a Xero, I hate being an early adopter of most things, but it started to seem like everyone had one besides me (especially all the cool kids), so I finally broke down.
I've borrowed a few here and there to try out before, but I used mine for the first time today and it was boringly easy and uneventful (exactly like I'd hoped), but I was completely surprised that it didn't incorporate weather stats to track with one's MV data... I just thought I was being dumb, but I guess it doesn't have it (yet, hopefully).
I just added temp/pressure/humidity to the session notes on the ShotView App with the load info, but entering that shit manually seems sort of tedious when using a ~$600 fancy-pants chrono lol.
Maybe Garmin could incorporate some clever software and get it to talk to a Kestrel’s environmental data.
Just a thought, since a lot of range finders talk to the Kestrel for distances.
Just a thought, since a lot of range finders talk to the Kestrel for distances.
They already have the ability to use the weather data from our phones with the ShotView App, but for some reason, they haven't integrated it yet.
It would be best to be able to link to a portable weather station, like a WeatherFLOW or a Kestrel, but the computer we all carry around in our pockets is constantly grabbing local weather data too, so it's a bit puzzling why they haven't harnessed that?
Like it or not, no powder is 100% temperature stable, so it almost doesn't make sense to track MV without also tracking weather conditions. That said, the easiest workaround ever appears to be just to pull the Xero out and grab a velocity in whatever conditions one finds themselves in.
Though, for comparison, this is what a shot summary looks like with the ProChronoDLX/Digital Link, the standalone chrono doesn't do anything special, the Digital Link App just grabs weather data using the phone's data and populates the appropriate cells:
It would be best to be able to link to a portable weather station, like a WeatherFLOW or a Kestrel, but the computer we all carry around in our pockets is constantly grabbing local weather data too, so it's a bit puzzling why they haven't harnessed that?
Like it or not, no powder is 100% temperature stable, so it almost doesn't make sense to track MV without also tracking weather conditions. That said, the easiest workaround ever appears to be just to pull the Xero out and grab a velocity in whatever conditions one finds themselves in.
Though, for comparison, this is what a shot summary looks like with the ProChronoDLX/Digital Link, the standalone chrono doesn't do anything special, the Digital Link App just grabs weather data using the phone's data and populates the appropriate cells:
The nice thing about a Kestrel is that it gives you real time environmentals right at your location. Cell phone weather “grabs” might be miles away from where you are. And they aren’t really real time either. With most weather services I’ve seen on my phone, the updates are at best 10 minutes old.
FWIW, I also will put a note on each session in ShotView about environmentals.
FWIW, I also will put a note on each session in ShotView about environmentals.
IDK, generally, the local weather grabs are just fine for documentation purposes, and today in 2024 the data is more accurate than ever (TBH, many of us could shoot whole matches with just our phones without looking at our Kestrels for anything besides wind).
I hope I am not too cynical, but I wonder if due to the smashing success of the Xero Garmin with fancy rifle guys with deep pockets, they may just be taking their time thinking up ways to charge us for shit like weather stats lol!
While mowing the lawn, I just listened to the Hornady podcast about the Xero with a couple of the developers, Ep #131, as mentioned above.
My impression is they seem too smart to have forgotten about adding weather or some other useful features some of us might bring up... if I were someone like Kestrel I'd be watching my ass, it might already be too late lol.
As an aside, coincidentally, in an unexpected twist of irony, spoiler alert, the narrator dude in the podcast starts it off by dissing the ProChrono, acting like it's some caveman device that's impossible to use (it's not) lol!
My impression is they seem too smart to have forgotten about adding weather or some other useful features some of us might bring up... if I were someone like Kestrel I'd be watching my ass, it might already be too late lol.
As an aside, coincidentally, in an unexpected twist of irony, spoiler alert, the narrator dude in the podcast starts it off by dissing the ProChrono, acting like it's some caveman device that's impossible to use (it's not) lol!
I think Kestrel and Shot Marker are both right in their wheel house. It will depend a lot on what they perceive to be the market size of each product IMO.
So the OK button stopped working and it must've broken off because the day it stopped working I noticed a rattling sounds inside the unit.
Anyway I got in touch with Garmin on a Thursday, they emailed the prepaid label, I mailed out the defective unit the same day, they received it on Monday, shipped out the new unit out same day and I had a brand new unit on Wednesday. Can't ask for more.
Props to the Gray Ops kit. No use for a tiny tripod since I don’t shoot off tables. Being able to attach directly to the rifle is so handy.
Mine has when I was using it direct sun and got super hot. I think there was a temp warning that popped up on the screen.
I think I must have missed the temperature warning last time I used it. If I ever see that message I'll throw it on the AC for a little bit. Last weekend though it just kept saying analyzing shot every 2 seconds, and wasn't registering anything when I actually did shoot. I also was shooting at 7pm at night when it wasn't as hot out.
Would be nice to see a heat shield made for these things.
Mine hasn’t done that but it has missed a few shots fired so far. Not sure if it’s because the Gray Ops cover was on while it was in use, or because there were trees crowding my line of sight within ten feet of where I was shooting.
The cover might help keep it cooler by blocking the sun though.
I generally miss several shots, .22lr, when using it during a match. 100-150 rounds total. I generally break it down to practice/chrono session, then by each stage (10-20 rounds).
I haven't had any issues here in SW Florida, just came back from the range, shaded though, been multiple times in same conditions
The cover may cause heat build up, try it w/o. Not a lot of .22 rounds on this so, 100 or so, nothing missed. No issues with all center fire. If in the sun, maybe shade it? HaHa--now we will see printed shade covers, little mini pop up's! zip tie one of those umbrella's from your drink from Sum Ting Wongs--
20 shot string today. Had the lowest extreme spread and lowest standard deviation ever!
Of course I was shooting my bow.
Of course I was shooting my bow.
Need to try it with mine yet. Thanks for reminding me. I forget it can do that.20 shot string today. Had the lowest extreme spread and lowest standard deviation ever!
Of course I was shooting my bow.
I’m still sticking with my LR (annoyingly bought just before the Garmin launched) but every time I have to set the stupid thing up and get is located just right I think about buying a Garmin.
The arca attachment just makes so much damn sense, means it’s always aligned and doesn’t matter if shooting off a tripod, bench or barricade.
The arca attachment just makes so much damn sense, means it’s always aligned and doesn’t matter if shooting off a tripod, bench or barricade.
I was a hard core LR guy until about 2 months ago when I started dropping shots frequently. I immediately ordered a Garmin when I got home and I can concentrate on shooting again and not adjusting. Far and away so much better in all facets. Get one
I feel you, brother. I owned my LR for 4 years and certainly got it to work well as evidenced by my chrono data spreadsheets I keep.
But it was a PIA and the POS app infuriated me for a number of reasons. It was total crap and absolutely locked up the radar unit and even my phone at times. For me, just deleting a shot from a series would do it. And yes, it picked up other shots and even with a recoil trigger and suppressor. Sometime just running the bolt with authority would trigger the radar and it would pick up an adjacent shooter’s shot.
But, I thought it was the best available, didn’t effect POI, and it was easy to clean up errant data in the csv file. I found it to be workable.
Then I got a Garmin and finally realized just how much of a PIA the LR was in comparison and just how much the company didn’t do shit to improve the product (actually, IMO they did nothing).
Gave the LR to my cousin who is happy to have it. Bet on a year or two he’ll get a Garmin and foist it off to another unsuspecting family member!!! Hahaha.
Garmin just works. No fuss, no muss. There are a few things in the interface that sone of us would like to see improved but I have confidence that Garmin will do continuous product improvement like they do with their other stuff.
Cheers
I would like to share with you my long-designed Garmin mount. It fits both Weaver and Picatinny rails.
Quick question: I initially set up mz Garmin with the desired bullet weight, then disabled the prompt for weight and info screen. When I start another session a few days later the bullet weight is not set anymore, I have to do it via the app. Did I maybe fuck something up?
Bullet weight is not a saved setting. It needs to be set for each session. If you don't set it on the C1, you can set it on the mobile app later to get the calculations you want.
Im tempted to say defective. These things never miss a beat in my experience.
