That is probably the best looking rifle/chassis system I have ever seen. And I know it will function as good as it looks or it won't go out the door. I will own one when they become available.
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Apparently you don't work for Sig, do you?I can tell you that I am very happy with 99.9% of the chassis performance and all the current users are happy as well.
I will share that I am not happy with the performance of a compression spring that is in play. We are working with that right now and may do a total re-design of that one aspect before pushing the GO button to run a bunch of these for general consumption. Most would not see any issues but I want to be the worst critic compared to what I would expect if I were the customer.
I want this fixed now because I will not proceed with the Long Actions and Lefty shorts until I am happy with what might be called the Mk1 Mod1 revision of this one feature.
That integrated pic rail and open top half of the forend is a welcome change I didn't know I wanted!Thanks for asking.
I am staying backed up with work guns going out on the Zealot so rumors of its death are greatly exaggerated. (poor attempt at a Mark Twain'ish comment.)
Here are a couple of crappy phone pics I snapped just now of another shipment. Just test fired and getting ready to ship.
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I understand that it is in my best interest to start pushing these into the mainstream user (you) lane ASAP.
It is also in my best interest to make sure I do not ship anything out that will make the phone ring once it is received.
I can tell you that I am very happy with 99.9% of the chassis performance and all the current users are happy as well.
I will share that I am not happy with the performance of a compression spring that is in play. We are working with that right now and may do a total re-design of that one aspect before pushing the GO button to run a bunch of these for general consumption. Most would not see any issues but I want to be the worst critic compared to what I would expect if I were the customer.
I want this fixed now because I will not proceed with the Long Actions and Lefty shorts until I am happy with what might be called the Mk1 Mod1 revision of this one feature. Any future users will benefit from not being early adopters even though those early adopters are happy.
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If I can complete the changes and get them shipping before the country burns down, you and I will both benefit by you not being an early adopter.
Thank you for the interest. I will try not to disappoint once these are made available.
Good on you Terry !Good morning.
I haven't been putting any updates into this thread because I still do not have the folder hinge mod ready to roll out.
I am currently building rifles on the existing version of this chassis but I am not going to release the chassis as a stand-alone offering until I am happy with everything.
This is not a knock against my current customers but they are just not going to be as picky and feature detail oriented as most of the rifle drivers on this forum.
Because of me being very stubborn about the choices of material and design used in the Zealot chassis project, it is not going to be inexpensive. It was designed from the beginning to be an "all up" stock to compete against the Accuracy International/Cadex/Spuhr part of the market so I believe the finished product needs to stand on its own merit if it is going to play in that lane.
I don't want to do is play the Sig game and roll out 27 different revisions in the first year of production.
I also don't want to do anything to make the phone ring once a stock or rifle ships out.
Most of you would never spot anything sub par with the original hinge lockup but I would, so I have to imagine you would as well.
Since the hinge lockup modification is forcing a redesign and reprogram of the main chassis body model and the butt stock model, I am going ahead and making some super minor tweaks in other places that I would have never worried with otherwise because they have so little to do with the stock's performance.
While I very much appreciate any interest you may have in this project, I would prefer to not have your business at all rather than ship you something that you are not 100% happy with. If I can complete the changes and get them shipping before the country burns down, you and I will both benefit by you not being an early adopter.
Thank you for the interest. I will try not to disappoint once these are made available.
I guess this means I have to get naked and say bad things..I've seen and handled this chassis...both in the design phase and pre production. I've also known Terry for over a decade. Shooting targets and shooting the shit equally.
It's difficult to over emphasize the amount of detailed engineering, material selection, production processes, and pure imagination/evolution that has been applied to the Zealot. Terry's modus operandi has always been to supply a product that ONLY meets the expectations of the operator and more importantly his own crazy- high internal criticism. He literally won't stop designing a thing until it's been rolled around, beat to hell, and slammed against the wall in that brain of his for years. And then he sends the prototype to other rifle designers and says "what's wrong with it and what would you change"
I have been running the KMW Sentinel stocks on my bolt guns for years. They are in my opinion the absolute best traditional stock available. That being said, the Zealot is stupid good !!
I can assure you that once you have one in your hand...you will immediately understand the chassis game has been changed. I've been asking Terry for a Zealot since I saw the original CAD drawing. That was a while ago. He won't release the chassis to the public until it's perfect and I promise it will be worth the wait.
How do you spell Fol-i-age ?
Thank you.Good on you Terry !![]()
There really is nothing more disappointing than being an early adopter of a product, paying top dollar and being unhappy with the product. THAT is a surefire way to disappoint, lose customers and taint your brand name. And, on the Internet, it's very difficult to get rid of that taint.
Noooooo………..I guess this means I have to get naked and say bad things..
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Terry. One day…For some of you that may not have seen any current pics on IG, FB, etc, here are some Zealot based rifles from some recent batches shipped out.
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Good morning.
I haven't been putting any updates into this thread because I still do not have the folder hinge mod ready to roll out.
I am currently building rifles on the existing version of this chassis but I am not going to release the chassis as a stand-alone offering until I am happy with everything.
This is not a knock against my current customers but they are just not going to be as picky and feature detail oriented as most of the rifle drivers on this forum.
Because of me being very stubborn about the choices of material and design used in the Zealot chassis project, it is not going to be inexpensive. It was designed from the beginning to be an "all up" stock to compete against the Accuracy International/Cadex/Spuhr part of the market so I believe the finished product needs to stand on its own merit if it is going to play in that lane.
What I don't want to do is play the Sig game and roll out 27 different revisions in the first year of production.
I also don't want to do anything to make the phone ring once a stock or rifle ships out.
Most of you would never spot anything sub par with the original hinge lockup but I would, so I have to imagine you would as well.
Since the hinge lockup modification is forcing a redesign and reprogram of the main chassis body model and the butt stock model, I am going ahead and making some super minor tweaks in other places that I would have never worried with otherwise because they have so little to do with the stock's performance.
While I very much appreciate any interest you may have in this project, I would prefer to not have your business at all rather than ship you something that you are not 100% happy with. If I can complete the changes and get them shipping before the country burns down, you and I will both benefit by you not being an early adopter.
Thank you for the interest. I will try not to disappoint once these are made available.
The time frame for releasing the chassis alone for purchase is about 18 months ago!I know this is a complex question, but what kind of time frame would you estimate until the chassis is released? (Also I would understand if you don't even want to give an estimate now)
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That looks real nice.I attempted to blend the corners and flats of the receiver ejection port with the base so the user could still have a huge hole to hit with single round feeding or to reach a finger in to clear a case. Good close-up pic of that port matching is in the #2 pic in my post #318 above.
There is a 2" section of integral ARCA immediately in front of the magazine housing. You can see it in most of the pics posted above. This section is close to the balance point on most configurations and it fits the ANVIL 30 ballhead/clamps perfectly.I know you designed this as a chassis for a work gun and she’s sexy but I could throw an arca rail on the bottom and have a sweet PRS chassis.
I ship rifles and stocks out of CONUS but only when my client arranges and coordinates the actual export procedures.Are there any options to get one of these exported to Aus?
Yeah the admin here for importing a chassis is decent but not impossible. I’ll see what I can sort and reach out. Thanks @TerryI ship rifles and stocks out of CONUS but only when my client arranges and coordinates the actual export procedures.
There is zero chance I would ever attempt to handle the bureaucratic paperwork involved.
We need to make sure there are no ITAR conflicts.
Other than that, I simply ship to the FFL of your designated exporter within CONUS and they handle everything from there to the local shop that would handle your final disposition and transfer paperwork. You would pay all the export fees direct to the licensed exporter.
As a matter of fact it is!Is that a M40 stock from someone we both know????![]()
Honestly, I don't think you will... If someone is legitimately interested in the Zealot & can't wait anymore, so be it... But I'd be willing to bet that 90% of those people will still buy a chassis when they become available.I am fully aware that I will lose a lot of potential sales of the Zealot chassis because interested people will be tired of waiting.
AgreedYou're a stand up guy Terry.
When the Chassis is done, i'm in for one. It looks absolutely gorgeous and appears to be obscenely well thought out. Keep up the great work buddy.
I really, really hate to be constrained but for now, I'm just trying to complete complete rifles that are already committed.Complete rifles available to order/purchase?
Or just agency buys for now?
Hey Terry, got a quick question. I haven’t followed this thread like completely from beginning to end but you said you’re changing the folding mechanism. Can you explain a little bit or is there a post so I can go back and read?I really, really hate to be constrained but for now, I'm just trying to complete complete rifles that are already committed.
That is NOT the answer I would like to give you.
I don't want to run any more of the chassis bodies and butt stock frames with the original folder lock system. I am trying to choreograph running my remaining stock of stock components out as I transition to the newer version. I am already logging commitment numbers past what I have components for, so I am already in territory I don't want to be in delivery wise.
I am pushing hard to give you an affirmative answer. I assure you that I will be getting the word out 0.001 seconds after that can happen.
Thanks for asking sir.
I don't have but a minute right now left from lunch break. I will try to add more later.Hey Terry, got a quick question. I haven’t followed this thread like completely from beginning to end but you said you’re changing the folding mechanism. Can you explain a little bit or is there a post so I can go back and read?
I have a question about the short arca that's machined in front of the mag well. It seems very short - As if it was designed specifically for a low profile, Anvil 30 type of arca head? It does not appear in the photos to be long enough to work with my Leofoto / 75mm leveling base. There was a photo of the Zealot on an Anvil 30 and it actually looked like the magazine would interfere with the tripod if one tried to rotate it around because it is so close to the tripod. Am I looking at it wrong? I'd love to own this chassis. Just wondering if I'd be have to add an arca to the handguard. And if I did that, would a standard Area 419 arca be on the same plane as the machined in arca? Or would it step down from handguard arca to built in arca? Just seems like at first glance another inch or two of length added to the current arca would provide full clearance on various tripods. But what do I know! KMW shit is the coolest out there and can't wait to own one of these things when they are ready!
Whoa Whoa Whoa, you gotta pace yourself, my ticker can't handle all this sexiness in one damn postFor some of you that may not have seen any current pics on IG, FB, etc, here are some Zealot based rifles from some recent batches shipped out.
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