Accuracy International AT-XC

#451
JB.IC said:
This. When you’re a podium placing shooter, the difference between 1st and 2nd can be fractions of a second. If that doesn’t apply to anyone reading this, then cool.

There’s nothing wrong with demanding better for a $5k+ rifle. We all paid the price and some of us many times. We have that right to speak about it.
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I can without a doubt say that video above of the ATXC shines new hope on the bolt lift.

Now does that mean instead of a terminus, impact etc action you should run out and buy a $6500 rifle….

Only the user can answer that. I won’t pay $6500 for one. At that point I’m buying another AXMC. But in the upcoming used market an ATXC may be decent
 
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I love my AI AT, and I bought it for what it was, a military-validated precision bolt action rifle.

If I looked at my AI AT through PRS lenses, I would be disappointed.

As AI (or at least AINA) appears to be leaning towards building rifles for competition, it will be interesting to see if the best of the best in PRS switch to AI.

-Stan
 
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Not that it is scientific. But putting 20lbs of lead on the scale and taping paracord to the most outward point on the bolt, greatest leverage.

2014 AX308 was 7.5lbs to cock the bolt.
2022 AT-X took 12.7lbs
2020 AXSR 8.5lbs
Trg22 6.4lbs
Mousingfield 6.0

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jbuck88 said:
Not that it is scientific. But putting 20lbs of lead on the scale and taping paracord to the most outward point on the bolt, greatest leverage.

2014 AX308 was 7.5lbs to cock the bolt.
2022 AT-X took 12.7lbs
2020 AXSR 8.5lbs
Trg22 6.4lbs
Mousingfield 6.0

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Imagine if the Mousingfield had more bolt lift. SpaceX wouldn’t have to divert satellites over gun ranges.
 
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jbuck88 said:
Not that it is scientific. But putting 20lbs of lead on the scale and taping paracord to the most outward point on the bolt, greatest leverage.

2014 AX308 was 7.5lbs to cock the bolt.
2022 AT-X took 12.7lbs
2020 AXSR 8.5lbs
Trg22 6.4lbs
Mousingfield 6.0

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That’s about the same results I got with my 2014 AT vs 22 ATX

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With an entire action redesign they should have gone to a medium length action to accommodate the short mag guys, stretch a few specs by a quarter inch. $7k or so would seem like a steal for a factory 7saum or 6.5prc VS having to step up to an AXSR for $11k. I bet they would sell a ton of them.
 
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3rdfocal said:
With an entire action redesign they should have gone to a medium length action to accommodate the short mag guys, stretch a few specs by a quarter inch. $7k or so would seem like a steal for a factory 7saum or 6.5prc VS having to step up to an AXSR for $11k. I bet they would sell a ton of them.
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Unless there’s a tender I doubt AI would cater to the market like that.
 
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3rdfocal said:
With an entire action redesign they should have gone to a medium length action to accommodate the short mag guys, stretch a few specs by a quarter inch. $7k or so would seem like a steal for a factory 7saum or 6.5prc VS having to step up to an AXSR for $11k. I bet they would sell a ton of them.
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Do they have issues? I’m building a 300 WSM on my AT currently. My 260 has a lot of room left running 142 smk .010 off the lands in these mags. I’m thinking it will run a wsm just fine

The AW mag is 2.98” long inside. So theoretically it should feed a 300 wsm without going crazy in length.

Maybe it will be a single shot. We shall see
 
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hafejd30 said:
Do they have issues? I’m building a 300 WSM on my AT currently. My 260 has a lot of room left running 142 smk .010 off the lands in these mags. I’m thinking it will run a wsm just fine
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I'm shooting 7-6.5prcw in 2 different barrels in my ATX. 180 hybrids and 168 vlds are stuffed way below neck/shoulder to fit in a mag. 180s at mag length limit powder. I single load 180s in one of the barrels and it absolutely hammers but I can't get those results mag-fed. The other barrel is a short carbon barrel shooting 168's at mag length and I'm not giving up too much, a little velocity and maybe some accuracy seating into the shoulder but its not the bullet I was hoping to shoot. Short answer is, short mags work, but you're NOT gonna mag feed and get the same results you could from a longer action. Single loaded 180's below.

Also, the AW mags won't hold WSM rounds reliably. They'll vomit all the remaining rounds out the top after extracting a round in my experience. Maybe you could work the feed lips but IDK. MDT WSM/PRC mags work excellent in my ATX.
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3rdfocal said:
I'm shooting 7-6.5prcw in 2 different barrels in my ATX. 180 hybrids and 168 vlds are stuffed way below neck/shoulder to fit in a mag. 180s at mag length limit powder. I single load 180s in one of the barrels and it absolutely hammers but I can't get those results mag-fed. The other barrel is a short carbon barrel shooting 168's at mag length and I'm not giving up too much, a little velocity and maybe some accuracy seating into the shoulder but its not the bullet I was hoping to shoot. Short answer is, short mags work, but you're NOT gonna mag feed and get the same results you could from a longer action. Single loaded 180's below.

Also, the AW mags won't hold WSM rounds reliably. They'll vomit all the remaining rounds out the top after extracting a round in my experience. Maybe you could work the feed lips but IDK. MDT WSM/PRC mags work excellent in my ATX.
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I plan to push 178 ELDX out of the 300 WSM

7mm bullets are long by design as well

We’ll see what happens I guess. I’m ok with single feed. Mag would be better.
 
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hafejd30 said:
I plan to push 178 ELDX out of the 300 WSM

7mm bullets are long by design as well

We’ll see what happens I guess. I’m ok with single feed. Mag would be better.
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I'm sure you'll be fine. If you wanted to shoot 215's or similar you'd be leaving a lot on the table at mag length.
 
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3rdfocal said:
I'm sure you'll be fine. If you wanted to shoot 215's or similar you'd be leaving a lot on the table at mag length.
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I’m shooting deer with it. Plan is to 1200 or so. Realistically 700-800 most of the time

I run them 2600 out of my 308 currently. Hoping to get to 3000 or so. Probably a 24-26” tube
 
#470
redneckbmxer24 said:
The bolt lugs have nothing to do with the cocking geometry, but with that changed the entire bolt assembly will be different. Whether you can buy an AT-XC bolt assembly and drop it in a previous rifle probably only AI knows at this point until someone has both and try’s it.
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The AT-XC bolt is not backward compatible with previous generation actions.
 
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#471
Scott Seigmund said:
We have done "RRS-Lock" for specific customers. As for making it a production feature we are on the fence about it. Once the pin falls out of your RRS-Lock clamp, and it will, it's a useless feature that collects dirt and debris and raises the cost of manufacturing.
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Glad I'm not the only one this has happened to... I have lost that stupid pin 3 times now. I get home after a match and start looking over my gear and would ya look at that my rrs lock pin is gone again....
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Huskydriver said:
Glad I'm not the only one this has happened to... I have lost that stupid pin 3 times now. I get home after a match and start looking over my gear and would ya look at that my rrs lock pin is gone again....View attachment 8480205
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I've taken the locking mechanism out of every rlok head or bipod clamp I own. Just run enough tension it down slide.
 
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jbuck88 said:
Not that it is scientific. But putting 20lbs of lead on the scale and taping paracord to the most outward point on the bolt, greatest leverage.

2014 AX308 was 7.5lbs to cock the bolt.
2022 AT-X took 12.7lbs
2020 AXSR 8.5lbs
Trg22 6.4lbs
Mousingfield 6.0

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I don't know what bothers me more. Those "knots", or the fact that you didn't burn the frayed running end of the 550 off. The whole mess gives me the heebie-jeebies....
 
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#493
RonBurgundyy said:
Any rumors on AT-XC magnum bolt face for 6.5 PRC?

Thoughts on AT-XC vs saving 1k and custom building with Termiuns Zeus action and having the capability to run 6.5 PRC?

What is Pros/cons other than "It's an AI"?
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Cons, AI can say the company will support magnum bolts on this rifle, and 3 years later come out with AT-XCD. They’ll state that any improvements will only be on this new version and forget about AT-XC.
 
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#494
clefairy said:
Cons, AI can say the company will support magnum bolts on this rifle, and 3 years later come out with AT-XCD. They’ll state that any improvements will only be on this new version and forget about AT-XC.
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Yup. That's why I said "2 weeks" in jest before.

Never buy something from AI with the expectation that what they say they will release for it will actually be released because it may never happen.

If someone wants a magnum short action bolt face then either plan on having to have a spare bolt opened up by a gunsmith or buy something else.
 
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#495
RonBurgundyy said:
Any rumors on AT-XC magnum bolt face for 6.5 PRC?

Thoughts on AT-XC vs saving 1k and custom building with Termiuns Zeus action and having the capability to run 6.5 PRC?

What is Pros/cons other than "It's an AI"?
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Zuess is opposite lug orientation VS AI or CDG action. You may know this but the Zuess is fair bit more finicky with aw mags with 12 4 and 8 o'clock lug orientation, VS AI 2, 6, 10.
 
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RonBurgundyy said:
Any rumors on AT-XC magnum bolt face for 6.5 PRC?

Thoughts on AT-XC vs saving 1k and custom building with Termiuns Zeus action and having the capability to run 6.5 PRC?

What is Pros/cons other than "It's an AI"?
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Sure, I can do that.

"I heard some guy in a Wendy's bathroom at a Travel Plaza off I95 near Roanoke tap'a' type to his buddy that AI was going to be bringing out a magnum bolt face and a rimfire conversion kit at Shot 20205. I'm pretty good at translating phone haptics into text. I could tell by his phones keypad vibrations he was talking about AI rifles. Although it's also sounds pretty close to a Grinder meetup invitation. Easy to confuse. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it was AI and Shot Show 2025 and not a Grinder gay meetup. So just around the corner. Good luck 👍"
 
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I could be wrong but these pics look like the AT-XC will have the AXSR grip angle (which I for one prefer). Maybe is AT-XC Gen 2? It was previously done on the CBP rifles. My apologies if this has already been discussed at nauseam...

AT-XC (eurooptic), all of their AT-XC pics are like this. Their unboxing video shows the "normal" at-x grip.
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AT-X (milehigh)
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CBP Rifle
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