Area 419 Zero Press vs SCA Nexus Press

Tweety4600 · Aug 26, 2024

Got it in the mail today, one day earlier than expected.
Still waiting on the InLine Bench plate, but first impressions are really good!
It's heavy, very well machined, tolerances are on point and finish is stunning

Can't wait to start sizing brass with it

Kocher · Aug 28, 2024

Defender3 said:
I have the 419 shellholders, but the cartridge just doesn't go far enough into the die to bump the shoulder. Putting in a Co-Ax adds a tad extra to the stroke and it works fine. Anyways, I'm not taking a $400 die to a machine shop to lathe off an eighth, I bought the Nexus instead.

I had this problem with a different caliber until I just screwed the die in a little bit more and I got the shoulder pump. It was an issue of just not having enough force? This was due to an out of spec barrel or bolt, causing too much headspace, but I was able to resize them after I annealed them and, screwed the resizing die in a little further

I did notice that the 419 shell holders seem like they could produce a little more bump, If they had a thicker insert.

Did you try a regular shell holder for the 300 PRC and see if that would be any different like a Redding. I noticed that some of the other brands (other than Redding shell holders) did not allow the half moon retention ring that is the universal show holder system (that comes with the zero press) to slide through or all the way over so that you could use those other shell holders. The Reading brand seem to work just perfect on the zero press..

It could’ve been that the shell holders were pretty beat up and didn’t allow it to slide in very smoothly…

Defender3 · Sep 4, 2024

Kocher said:
I had this problem with a different caliber until I just screwed the die in a little bit more and I got the shoulder pump. It was an issue of just not having enough force? This was due to an out of spec barrel or bolt, causing too much headspace, but I was able to resize them after I annealed them and, screwed the resizing die in a little further

I did notice that the 419 shell holders seem like they could produce a little more bump, If they had a thicker insert.

Did you try a regular shell holder for the 300 PRC and see if that would be any different like a Redding. I noticed that some of the other brands (other than Redding shell holders) did not allow the half moon retention ring that is the universal show holder system (that comes with the zero press) to slide through or all the way over so that you could use those other shell holders. The Reading brand seem to work just perfect on the zero press..

It could’ve been that the shell holders were pretty beat up and didn’t allow it to slide in very smoothly…

I appreciate the suggestions but default back to my earlier post about not wanting to turn this into any sort of b*tch thread. I've done everything mentioned.

Has anyone found or is anyone making a good cover for the Nexus?

Pav67 · Sep 4, 2024

BgBmBoo on the site makes nice covers.Dont have a pic handy hopefully someone else does

Pav67 · Sep 4, 2024

I believe he makes the covers 419 sells

30cal user · Sep 4, 2024

It’s $80 basically, just use a towel

Tweety4600 · Sep 4, 2024

I use a plastic wrap some clothes I once ordered came in. It cost nothing and it's totally transparent, so I can still admire this gorgeous masterpiece even when it is covered.

Defender3 · Sep 5, 2024

Tweety4600 said:
I use a plastic wrap some clothes I once ordered came in. It cost nothing and it's totally transparent, so I can still admire this gorgeous masterpiece even when it is covered.

30cal user said:
It’s $80 basically, just use a towel

Those wouldn't satisfy my OCD.

db2000 · Sep 5, 2024

7mm said:
Ford Focus and a Ford raptor both get you were you want to go. I know which one I would rather drive.

Well, here’s the dumbest thing I’ve read today so far. Congratulations.

BobinNC · Sep 5, 2024

Not trying to get into the battle of the reloading presses. For what it's worth both of my presses are more than 35 years old.

First is my old reloading room with both presses mounted.

Next is the CH Magnum Press no longer made, but can be found used on E-Bay occasionally.

And last is the CH4D 444 press, which is still being made. No 444 H Press

Notice how both bare a more than passing resemblance to SAC's Nexus press. I sure the NEXUS is more robust, but how must robustness do you need??

My CH Magnum is used for resizing and bullet seating.

The 444 press is mainly used lighter chores. I use mine for a Lee Universal depriming die , a Lee neck flaring die , and Lee factory crimp die as applicable

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45-90 · Sep 5, 2024

I use the Co-Ax for more loading these days. Especially with case forming. Cause dies slip in and out, back and forth, changing things up with ease... until I get the forming process down. It's a tinkerer's and Wildcater's dream press.
I also have arbor press, 2 Dillons, 2 Hornady progressives, Rockchucker, Lee, RCBS 50,....
No plans to own an expensive Zero press, just not interested or impressed.
It's just not needed for anything I do.
But you can spend your money on it if you desire to do so....

Tweety4600 · Sep 6, 2024

@BobinNC That's interesting, a friend who owns the CH Magnum also said the same thing when seeing my Nexus.
The Nexus is clearly inspired from several other presses and combines all the good ideas from these.

I like to quality it as a hybrid between a Turban Präzipress (high quality CNC machining), a RCBS Summit (the die moving down on the case) and a Forster Co-Ax (co-axial design, floating die with quick change). Guess it also takes after the CH Magnum

ifgator · Sep 6, 2024

I ended up finding I was getting inconsistent sizing on stout Lapua 7/6.5prcw brass. Same with ADG 7 SAUM brass that had some work hardening due to a previous die.

I then used my Prazi 105 press and my Forster presses and the were way more consistent. I believe I a was getting too much flex with Area 419 press. During this testing I also tested lubricants and the royal case lube was the winner out of Alpha and one shot.

JSW2000 · Sep 6, 2024

ifgator said:
I ended up finding I was getting inconsistent sizing on stout Lapua 7/6.5prcw brass. Same with ADG 7 SAUM brass that had some work hardening due to a previous die.

I then used my Prazi 105 press and my Forster presses and the were way more consistent. I believe I a was getting too much flex with Area 419 press. During this testing I also tested lubricants and the royal case lube was the winner out of Alpha and one shot.

How much "spring stop" did you have setup on the Zero?

Tweety4600 · Sep 7, 2024

Good and bad news
The Nexus is back in stock (7 in stock at that moment)
Bad news is its price went up from $775 to $875.

I really wonder what motivated this rise... $775 was a really good price point.
But no doubt it'll still sell a lot, even at $875.

atombomb · Sep 10, 2024

7mm said:
Welcome to the hide

I remember the “old Hide”, this is nothing compared to the beat downs some of those OG dudes used to dish out…

Tweety4600 · Sep 12, 2024

Got the InLine Fabrication mount in the mail today!
Really happy with the product! The mount is very sturdy, and there is absolutely no flex when resizing.
I had to pay an extra $33 for taxes, but it is worth it.

Let's start resizing now

K80/6.5 · Sep 12, 2024

Tweety4600 said:
Got the InLine Fabrication mount in the mail today!
Really happy with the product! The mount is very sturdy, and there is absolutely no flex when resizing.
I had to pay an extra $33 for taxes, but it is worth it.

Let's start resizing now

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If this is not quick connect/disconnect mount what is the difference from mounting the press straight to the bench? Could you have just bought longer cap head bolts and nuts and tightened to bench?

Tweety4600 · Sep 12, 2024

K80/6.5 said:
If this is not quick connect/disconnect mount what is the difference from mounting the press straight to the bench? Could you have just bought longer cap head bolts and nuts and tightened to bench?

Bigger footprint on the bench, providing better sturdiness

NiteQwill · Sep 12, 2024

Tweety4600 said:
Got the InLine Fabrication mount in the mail today!
Really happy with the product! The mount is very sturdy, and there is absolutely no flex when resizing.
I had to pay an extra $33 for taxes, but it is worth it.

Let's start resizing now

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Are the French going to be mad about that laser engraved flag on there? (Jk, my wife is French speaking)

Looking great! I wonder what the cutouts on the side are for? To store the shell holders?

Tweety4600 · Sep 12, 2024

NiteQwill said:
Are the French going to be mad about that laser engraved flag on there? (Jk, my wife is French speaking)

Looking great! I wonder what the cutouts on the side are for? To store the shell holders?

Pretty much the opposite, I think it's a nice addition on the press. I'm currently writing an article for a french shooting revue and I mention it

The cutouts are designed for storing shell holders, or whatever you'd like to put in there

Defender3 · Sep 13, 2024

Pav67 said:
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I believe he makes the covers 419 sells

I received my covers for:

1 - Nexus
1 - Henderson Trimmer
1 - Primal Rights CPS
1 - Lee APP and
1 - SuperTrickler

Thanks for the suggestion - they look fantastic!

flyer1a · Sep 16, 2024

Defender3 said:
I received my covers for:

1 - Nexus
1 - Henderson Trimmer
1 - Primal Rights CPS
1 - Lee APP and
1 - SuperTrickler

Thanks for the suggestion - they look fantastic!

Stan is a great dude and does very good work. They'll serve you well for a lifetime.

Defender3 · Sep 16, 2024

flyer1a said:
Stan is a great dude and does very good work. They'll serve you well for a lifetime.

I ordered my Zero with the cover (not knowing Stan made it) and noted the cover was as impressive as the press. I just had to order more.

oldrifleman · Sep 16, 2024

Tweety4600 said:
Got the InLine Fabrication mount in the mail today!
Really happy with the product! The mount is very sturdy, and there is absolutely no flex when resizing.
I had to pay an extra $33 for taxes, but it is worth it.

Let's start resizing now

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One question I have had is I keep seeing the Solo-Loc rings being used, are they required to use the press? I ask because I believe an honest politician is easier to find than a Solo-Loc ring

NiteQwill · Sep 16, 2024

oldrifleman said:
One question I have had is I keep seeing the Solo-Loc rings being used, are they required to use the press? I ask because I believe an honest politician is easier to find than a Solo-Loc ring

No, you can use standard lock rings.

oldrifleman · Sep 16, 2024

Ok, thank you

Tweety4600 · Sep 16, 2024

oldrifleman said:
One question I have had is I keep seeing the Solo-Loc rings being used, are they required to use the press? I ask because I believe an honest politician is easier to find than a Solo-Loc ring

You can used absolutely any rings, since the ball detent is on the die body, not on the ring. That's an improvement from the Co-Ax, which had issues with some ring because its ball detent is on the ring itself.

You see mostly the Solo Loc ring being used because one is included with the press.

Schütze · Sep 16, 2024

oldrifleman said:
One question I have had is I keep seeing the Solo-Loc rings being used, are they required to use the press? I ask because I believe an honest politician is easier to find than a Solo-Loc ring

I use Forster rings too and didn’t notice an issue.

Schütze · Sep 16, 2024

One thing worth mentioning I think is when comparing the co-ax to the nexus, the self centering of the co-ax shell plate had me spoiled.

I resized a couple of hundred cases with the sac and had owner inducted issues regarding lowering the handle to fast while the case isn’t perfectly centered.

Easy to do when you use the slightly sticky sizing wax and pull the case a little out while removing your fingers. Just something I have to get use to.

Of course this easily damages the case neck.

Tweety4600 · Sep 17, 2024

Schütze said:
One thing worth mentioning I think is when comparing the co-ax to the nexus, the self centering of the co-ax shell plate had me spoiled.

I resized a couple of hundred cases with the sac and had owner inducted issues regarding lowering the handle to fast while the case isn’t perfectly centered.

Easy to do when you use the slightly sticky sizing wax and pull the case a little out while removing your fingers. Just something I have to get use to.

Of course this easily damages the case neck.

Haha same, resized a couple hundreds cases so far and no issue. But it's odd at first for sure.

ifgator · Sep 19, 2024

JSW2000 said:
How much "spring stop" did you have setup on the Zero?

There were some for sure.
I cannot overstate how much easier it was on the Prazipress and the Coax.

JSW2000 · Sep 19, 2024

ifgator said:
There were some for sure.
I cannot overstate how much easier it was on the Prazipress and the Coax.

That's very odd. Did you use Area419 or Redding shellholders? What I don't get is how some people granted it is very few use the Zero to size Cheytacs and 338L or Norma and have very consistent results but then some people have problems with small magnums.

ifgator · Sep 19, 2024

JSW2000 said:
That's very odd. Did you use Area419 or Redding shellholders? What I don't get is how some people granted it is very few use the Zero to size Cheytacs and 338L or Norma and have very consistent results but then some people have problems with small magnums.

I was using Area 419 shell holder, -2 spacer, and then Cortina die. It was Cortina precision that told me to try a single stage as they get these reports. Maybe it has to do with how great their dies are at sizing down low. I still like having the 419 just not for magnum stout brass like lapua.

ifgator · Sep 19, 2024

I’ll also say that the Nexus press is appealing to me because it looks very strong like a beefy version of the coax.

Schütze · Sep 19, 2024

ifgator said:
I’ll also say that the Nexus press is appealing to me because it looks very strong like a beefy version of the coax.

The nexus is definitely stronger than the coax, I’ve both. Right now using the nexus for sizing and the coax for seating.

Tweety4600 · Sep 20, 2024

The bigger footprint definitely helps in the matter

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