Did Steiner just quietly build the MPO we have all been asking for? H6xi
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Thanks. There are a couple of things about that reticle I'd change, if I had to do it again. Still, as proof of concept it worked well.
ILya
I own the Meopta and I don't know if I got an absolute winner of a scope built on a Wednesday by a guy who got laid the night before but the glass clarity and brightness of the scope is exceptional and not just at that price point. And yes, I love the reticle too, it's what initially had me interested in the scope to begin with. I'd love for Meopta to take a crack at a 2-12 but based on their other scopes, it'd be too big and too heavy. My only complaint with them.
Its a good scope with a good reticle, thanks to @koshkin . Its a bit more "precise" than the LRHS reticle, but you can tell the inspiration came from that. I really don't know why scope companies make this so hard. I have a big knot on my head from beating my head against the wall.
Would appear they have indeed arrived, in stock at multiple places. Almost want to order one to check it out, I just know I'm going to be disappointed by the reticle though.
I’m worried about that myself. Also torn bc the ZCO 2-10 is supposed to be out soon as well.
Somebody could make a Helos with a smaller center dot, that weighs 22oz, in the Philippines, with japanese glass, sell it for $1000-1200 and make a fortune it seems.
I was hoping for news from the 24 Shotshow but haven't heard anything yet.
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It does not say what the reticle is?
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It does not say what the reticle is?
That reticle to me looks like it’s going to be very similar to how the Burris xtr3i is. Meaning not good on low power. Swing and a miss again.Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42mm STR-MIL FFP Riflescope 8782
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I don’t think anyone has really cracked the code on a FFP L/MPVO reticle with a good tree at high mag and a really easy to see and use reticle at low mag. That said, the discontinued Match/Precision optic from Brownells may have been close. I haven’t handled one, but I “think” the theory checks out.
The “cross hair” should appear 3x thicker on low mag (b/c it is 2 solid lines with an open middle), but the open center still allows for target acquisition and high precision at high mag.
IDK, maybe someone who has handled one can confirm that it is good at 3x, or that it’s a dumpster fire…
The “cross hair” should appear 3x thicker on low mag (b/c it is 2 solid lines with an open middle), but the open center still allows for target acquisition and high precision at high mag.
IDK, maybe someone who has handled one can confirm that it is good at 3x, or that it’s a dumpster fire…
That was a decent review, thank you.
It sounds like you have good cross hairs with the illumination on at 2x, just no holds. Does anybody use reticle holdovers on 2 power, anyway?
I don't care about holds at 2x, but I want a reticle I can see without illumination at 2x.
I spoke with Steiner this morning and they are slowly starting to ship
Well, its an LPVO not a MPVO but the Vudu 1-10 in SR5 or LE5 fit the bill if you are ok with .5 MIL hashes in the vertical. It is definitely very visible on 1x or 2x with no illumination.
Oh, I think the code would be easier to crack if it was being written by people who knew what they needed versus what they think they want. As a group, we're pretty dumb sometimes...
- "Bro, bro, I totally need 10 mrad of wind holds... oh, yeah, and like 32 mrad of elevation holds... I wanna shoot long range with my 100 yd zero and not have to dial... using a .45-70... in a hurricane."
- "Dude, I NEED at least 6x of zoom so that my scope compromises optical performance on every shot for magnification I need on like... no shots."
- "I can't put holes in paper or bang 2+ MOA steel targets if my center dot/cross hair is more than .01 mrad thick. Plus, my wind holds bro... I mean... shit... make that reticle look like a 5 year old got hold of an Etch-a-Sketch... that's peak performance!"
This is actually 100% spot on.
“Bro, I want a decent LPVO with reticle I can see at 2x in near dark and illegal conditions but also that I can shoot 1000 yards with and do wind holds.”
I call them 100mph reticles. Who doesn’t shoot in hurricane winds? I need it for my 22lr when it’s gusting to 140mph.
This isn’t hard but everyone is tacticool Timmy I guess.
This isn’t hard but everyone is tacticool Timmy I guess.
A viewer is going to be sending in his SCR 2-12 within the next few weeks. Im excited to try it out.
Agreed. If scopes had the ability to project a larger center dot with a manual flip of a lever or something similar for times when you are on minimum magnification it would alleviate the issue of reticle size.
Blaser 1-7x28 does that. The technology exists with diffractive reticles.
Dual focal plane reticles acomplish the same thing via different means.
ILya
Interesting. Wonder if/when that feature will make it to the mainstream optics companies?
There are a few LPVOs that effective do it already (S&B, RZR G3, ATACR for the diffractive reticle) and March have a few dual focal plane scopes.
They are however all pretty expensive.
I do not think it is rocket science, I've always felt the Bushnell LRHS G2H reticle got it right for low mag/high mag use, granted this was in a 4x erector set but March also tried similar out in the 3-24x52 (8x erector) with the FML-TR1H reticle which I thought was very effective. Some are not a fan of the "circle of death" but for low mag use I find it quite effective and at higher mags it is not overly intrusive.
Hard to tell in the pics below, but that circle actually stands out pretty well even without illumination, compared to the NX8 at 3x with the TREMOR reticle that is pretty thick the difference is obvious
Hard to tell in the pics below, but that circle actually stands out pretty well even without illumination, compared to the NX8 at 3x with the TREMOR reticle that is pretty thick the difference is obvious
I agree that the LRHS previously and March currently has done a great job on reticles that are usable at both ends of the spectrum. Wish more manufacturers would replicate.
Yes. Please show low mag shots with and without illumination in the open and also pointed into tree covered areas with less than perfect daylight. Thank you
It takes a lot of precision and effort to make sure both focal planes are perfectly aligned. $$
But, I would like to see it more. I’m not sure about patent considerations. Both March and S&B have done it, but in different ways.
So what's the through scope view of the mil reticle look like?
My March DFP 1-10 doesn't have the two planes exactly lined up and I've also seen photos of the same thing on other peoples March DFP scopes - so it must be pretty hard to align them perfectly.
But DFP is a solution nontheless, however it's not like the March reticles in these DFP scope are on the fine side.
Which reticle do you have in each? Steiner opted for green only illumination in 3-18 T series, is the H series also green or is it red? Does illumination look any brighter in H6Xi at 2x than T6Xi at 3x? Does H6Xi use standard CR2032 battery or did they go with the odd CR2450 battery? Through the scope image at 2x pointed at sky for H6 and at 3x for T6…
I saw the reticle in another thread, looks just like scr2. Maybe thicker idk. Steiner doesn't have any subtensions available for it. Watched a video review and guy said the subtensions were pretty much useless 6x and below. But if you're making a shot to hold wind you should have time to bump the magnification up to 9-10x anyways. I just want to see what it looks like at 4-5x. It's form is nice, compact, but a guy may be better off just going with a tenmile 3-18 on a hunting rifle, as the weights basically the same and the long tube makes it very forgiving optically. I think the credo 2-10 & mark4hd 2.5-10 are more against this particular model in form/function.
The user's manual
says CR2032, see page 7.
See also specs on page 10, all show CR2032.
Hey all,
I currently have both an H6 2-12 and an H6 3-18 mounted. These both have the new cleaned up STR-Mil tree reticle. I grabbed some quick photos through the 2-12 this morning. I am headed out for another range trip tonight and will update once I have more experience with them.
Reticle @ 3x and 18x
2-12x @ 2x
2-12x @ 12x
I currently have both an H6 2-12 and an H6 3-18 mounted. These both have the new cleaned up STR-Mil tree reticle. I grabbed some quick photos through the 2-12 this morning. I am headed out for another range trip tonight and will update once I have more experience with them.
Reticle @ 3x and 18x
2-12x @ 2x
2-12x @ 12x
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