Port strike coming… not going to be good!

sirhrmechanic · Sep 30, 2024

The MSM has been specifically. It talking about this… and IMHO if going to find a way to blame it on Trump!

October Surprise might well be product shortages… gas shortages… all kinds of lovely disruptions including layoffs and work stops at factories they cannot get parts.

With Just A Week Left, ‘Devastating’ Strike At Ports Looks Unavoidable

There is only one week left to fend off a major ports strike that could have a devastating impact on U.S. retailers just as they enter the most important time of year.

www.forbes.com

Just saying… make sure you have plenty of “everything”

Sirhr

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 30, 2024

In my opinion it's not going to happen. Too close to the election and the government will kick in some money(back door so the taxpayers don't know) and they will claim they saved the economy. Something Trump could never do.

sirhrmechanic · Sep 30, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
In my opinion it's not going to happen. Too close to the election and the government will kick in some money(back door so the taxpayers don't know) and they will claim they saved the economy. Something Trump could never do.

Or they let it happen and the MSM makes an all out effort to blame Trump and a few “more” stupid sheep buy it.

Everything is on Harris watch… yet the media are treating her as the outsider reform candidate!

Unreal…

Sirhr

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 30, 2024

sirhrmechanic said:
Or they let it happen and the MSM makes an all out effort to blame Trump and a few “more” stupid sheep buy it.

Everything is on Harris watch… yet the media are treating her as the outsider reform candidate!

Unreal…

Sirhr

Where's mayor Pete?? Doesn't this fall into his department? Along with the department of labor?

sirhrmechanic · Sep 30, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Where's mayor Pete?? Doesn't this fall into his department? Along with the department of labor?

Yeah... it is. So why is be being told to stand down?

Wonder what sorts of stuff will get snuck into USA while 'port facilities' are in chaos? You know... for an epic October Surprise that will allow, say, an election to be cancelled or postponed?

Just wondering?

Sirhr

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Sep 30, 2024

sirhrmechanic said:
Yeah... it is. So why is be being told to stand down?

Wonder what sorts of stuff will get snuck into USA while 'port facilities' are in chaos? You know... for an epic October Surprise that will allow, say, an election to be cancelled or postponed?

Just wondering?

Sirhr

I hope not.

Buying more ammo is part of the solution.

GreenGO Juan · Sep 30, 2024

Downtown · Sep 30, 2024

Besides more money, the Longshoremans union wants a total ban on any automation of any type. Perhaps it's a nice thought to believe modern progress can somehow be halted, but unfortunately a nation must remain competitive with it's peers.

https://nypost.com/2024/09/29/business/longshoremen-unions-demand-for-total-ban-on-automation-questioned-as-port-strike-looms-from-maine-to-texas/

GreenGO Juan · Sep 30, 2024

Alphatreedog · Sep 30, 2024

IIRC during 2021 COVID bullshit they were threatening a strike . Biden admin stepped in and gave FED funds to stop it . This is the Unions paying back the favor . Unions support Dems and Dems are loosing . Even a few economists have said it looks like the left is burning the economy down . Just leavin a nice little Fuck You for the American People and Trump .

sloporsche · Sep 30, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Where's mayor Pete?? Doesn't this fall into his department? Along with the department of labor?

they are too busy putting their resumes out and going on new job interviews ....i hope

Jughead · Sep 30, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Where's mayor Pete?? Doesn't this fall into his department? Along with the department of labor?

Most likely swinging in him and his hubbies swing with the children. He should be in the first 10% on the prison train to gitmo

Jughead · Sep 30, 2024

Alphatreedog said:
IIRC during 2021 COVID bullshit they were threatening a strike . Biden admin stepped in and gave FED funds to stop it . This is the Unions paying back the favor . Unions support Dems and Dems are loosing . Even a few economists have said it looks like the left is burning the economy down . Just leavin a nice little Fuck You for the American People and Trump .

Scuttle butt is the management is supporting Harris but rank and file are for trump

Bradu · Sep 30, 2024

Downtown said:
Besides more money, the Longshoremans union wants a total ban on any automation of any type. Perhaps it's a nice thought to believe modern progress can somehow be halted, but unfortunately a nation must remain competitive with it's peers.

https://nypost.com/2024/09/29/business/longshoremen-unions-demand-for-total-ban-on-automation-questioned-as-port-strike-looms-from-maine-to-texas/

They are simply trying to prolong the inevitable with automation. It's coming whether we like it or not. I can't blame companies for going that route since so many people aren't willing to work or show up regularly.

Jughead · Sep 30, 2024

Bradu said:
They are simply trying to prolong the inevitable with automation. It's coming whether we like it or not. I can't blame companies for going that route since so many people aren't willing to work or show up regularly.

Agree, there is no stopping the genie once it’s out of the botte

Franko · Sep 30, 2024

Perhaps the longshoremen are gambling that a Democratic administration won't be willing to order them to go back to work so close to the election? Or maybe they are hoping the Feds will kick in enough money to ease the transition to more automation at the ports.

I don't think this is going to end well for the longshoremen.

Soulezoo · Sep 30, 2024

I remember when Reagan put a stop to shenanigans with the Air Traffic Controllers union.
Biden could absolutely do the same in the name of national security. But he won't.

hlee · Sep 30, 2024

Robots don’t pay union dues…

softcock · Sep 30, 2024

The Facility owners love when Longshoreman go on Strike, they just hire Scab, Pay them less, get the job done in faster time, and end of day, They Make More Bank-$$$
.

Daddyusmaximus · Oct 1, 2024

sirhrmechanic said:
The MSM has been specifically. It talking about this… and IMHO if going to find a way to blame it on Trump!

October Surprise might well be product shortages… gas shortages… all kinds of lovely disruptions including layoffs and work stops at factories they cannot get parts.

With Just A Week Left, ‘Devastating’ Strike At Ports Looks Unavoidable

There is only one week left to fend off a major ports strike that could have a devastating impact on U.S. retailers just as they enter the most important time of year.

www.forbes.com

Just saying… make sure you have plenty of “everything”

Sirhr

"Talking about it"... or warning us what their planning?

DarnYankeeUSMC · Oct 1, 2024

Well, I was wrong. The strike has begun. So what are the theories now?
Wait a week or two and step in to solve the potential crisis?

EddieNFL · Oct 1, 2024

Jughead said:
Scuttle butt is the management is supporting Harris but rank and file are for trump

Wonder if the rank and file will walk if the Harris supporters so order?

EddieNFL · Oct 1, 2024

softcock said:
The Facility owners love when Longshoreman go on Strike, they just hire Scab, Pay them less, get the job done in faster time, and end of day, They Make More Bank-$$$
.

stevieb92 · Oct 1, 2024

hlee said:
Robots don’t pay union dues…

And robots don't go on strike.

TACC · Oct 1, 2024

Bring it on, love to see Cuntmala say as soon as she gets elected she will fix it

Aftermath · Oct 1, 2024

hlee said:
Robots don’t pay union dues…

They also don't need smoke breaks or vacations, don't need maternity leave, won't bitch about being cold...
In a way, they do need sick days. Regular maintenance and it's not like we are talking about that Boston Dynamics walking dog high tech shit all the way either. We are looking at automated cranes, trucks, lifts...relatively simple, low tech machines with RFID readers and a few load and proximity sensors, some hydraulics and some servos.

Franko · Oct 1, 2024

TACC said:
Bring it on, love to see Cuntmala say as soon as she gets elected she will fix it

Kamala's security detail probably has orders to shoot any reporter that gets close enough to her to ask questions. They are terrified of what is going to come out of her mouth in an unscripted situation.

Jughead · Oct 1, 2024

EddieNFL said:
Wonder if the rank and file will walk if the Harris supporters so order?

They all walked at midnight

EddieNFL · Oct 1, 2024

Jughead said:
They all walked at midnight

I’m…shocked.

sloporsche · Oct 1, 2024

well it does not look like brandon n crew were on top of the crisis and kamel didn't chime up to save the day, it would have been big political points had she but clearly it is beyond her pay scale

Holliday · Oct 1, 2024

DEI has degraded our workforce. How do you get around DEI? Automation……

NoDopes · Oct 1, 2024

Aftermath said:
They also don't need smoke breaks or vacations, don't need maternity leave, won't bitch about being cold...

... and doesn't take 4 of them to change a light bulb. Not to mention the paperwork involved.

rjacobs · Oct 1, 2024

Guy on another forum who is a longshoreman at one of these ports says they can unload 2 containers to every automated ports single container. It might have been more than 2 I would have to go back and look. And then he said the automated trucks are also slow and things get lost very easily. Their ports have containers on the road in ~48 hours. He said the automated ports take 3-5 days in general.

He wasnt against automation completely. He said the automated gates for the trucks work far better than the truckers having to go into an office and sign in and out. Much more productive.

He was explaining the negotiations and that they had actually finished and agreed on everything with the local companies, it was the big shippers that wouldnt agree. The same shippers that made 50 billion PROFIT between 22 and 23. The same shippers that pay their workers on the boats like 10 bucks an hour. The shippers that all use flag of convenience to make the most money and pay people the least. So none of that is shocking to me. Flag of convenience is horrible for that industry. My industry was trying it and it turned out really poorly and I dont think anybody is doing it anymore.

stevieb92 · Oct 1, 2024

Better run out and get some toilet paper...

sloporsche · Oct 1, 2024

rjacobs said:
Guy on another forum who is a longshoreman at one of these ports says they can unload 2 containers to every automated ports single container. It might have been more than 2 I would have to go back and look. And then he said the automated trucks are also slow and things get lost very easily. Their ports have containers on the road in ~48 hours. He said the automated ports take 3-5 days in general.

He wasnt against automation completely. He said the automated gates for the trucks work far better than the truckers having to go into an office and sign in and out. Much more productive.

He was explaining the negotiations and that they had actually finished and agreed on everything with the local companies, it was the big shippers that wouldnt agree. The same shippers that made 50 billion PROFIT between 22 and 23. The same shippers that pay their workers on the boats like 10 bucks an hour. The shippers that all use flag of convenience to make the most money and pay people the least. So none of that is shocking to me. Flag of convenience is horrible for that industry. My industry was trying it and it turned out really poorly and I dont think anybody is doing it anymore.

you lost me at ten bucks an hour

Daddyusmaximus · Oct 1, 2024

Jughead said:
They all walked at midnight

Hardly a peep about it on the news...
Looks like everybody is trying to keep it under wraps as long as they can while the hurricane is story #1.

Lightning8 · Oct 1, 2024

Bradu said:
They are simply trying to prolong the inevitable with automation. It's coming whether we like it or not. I can't blame companies for going that route since so many people aren't willing to work or show up regularly.

I spent last 7 years of my career "automating" paper mills - issue is not management displacing workers it is manufacturing survival as cannot replace workers as they retire.

918v · Oct 1, 2024

rjacobs said:
Guy on another forum who is a longshoreman at one of these ports says they can unload 2 containers to every automated ports single container. It might have been more than 2 I would have to go back and look. And then he said the automated trucks are also slow and things get lost very easily. Their ports have containers on the road in ~48 hours. He said the automated ports take 3-5 days in general.

He wasnt against automation completely. He said the automated gates for the trucks work far better than the truckers having to go into an office and sign in and out. Much more productive.

He was explaining the negotiations and that they had actually finished and agreed on everything with the local companies, it was the big shippers that wouldnt agree. The same shippers that made 50 billion PROFIT between 22 and 23. The same shippers that pay their workers on the boats like 10 bucks an hour. The shippers that all use flag of convenience to make the most money and pay people the least. So none of that is shocking to me. Flag of convenience is horrible for that industry. My industry was trying it and it turned out really poorly and I dont think anybody is doing it anymore.

How much does a longshoreman make?

DeathBeforeDismount · Oct 1, 2024

Franko said:
Perhaps the longshoremen are gambling that a Democratic administration won't be willing to order them to go back to work so close to the election? Or maybe they are hoping the Feds will kick in enough money to ease the transition to more automation at the ports.

I don't think this is going to end well for the longshoremen.

They can order them back and instead of doing 30 containers an hour they will do 1. Shits already backed up. They will get what they are asking for or the demo are doing to look even dumber right before the election. I hope biden prolongs this just as a fuck you to Harris.

DeathBeforeDismount · Oct 1, 2024

Soulezoo said:
I remember when Reagan put a stop to shenanigans with the Air Traffic Controllers union.
Biden could absolutely do the same in the name of national security. But he won't.

This is retarded talk.

A. The ATC were federal employees
B. There was a massive trained force of military ATC during cold war that were used as a stop gap.

You aren't putting some non trained idiot in charge of unloading hundreds of millions of product from a ship with 20k cans on it.

DeathBeforeDismount · Oct 1, 2024

918v said:
How much does a longshoreman make?

It's good money but they also have to deal with layoffs , furlough and live in the most expensive parts of the nation.

The port workers in Baltimore were laid off when the key bridge fell. The ILA union actually was able to repurpose some covid funding they had to keep them from loosing their houses. Biden and the gov didn't do jack shit for the workers.

DeathBeforeDismount · Oct 1, 2024

Aftermath said:
They also don't need smoke breaks or vacations, don't need maternity leave, won't bitch about being cold...
In a way, they do need sick days. Regular maintenance and it's not like we are talking about that Boston Dynamics walking dog high tech shit all the way either. We are looking at automated cranes, trucks, lifts...relatively simple, low tech machines with RFID readers and a few load and proximity sensors, some hydraulics and some servos.

All it does is shift the cost from a NON us company to the taxpayers. When these guys loose their jobs they become welfare recipients or prisoners. It's much better to pay them to work than pay them not to work. Would you rather the profits be sent overseas to our enemies or stay in the zuS economy circulating as they buy houses, cars, goods, paybtaxes..ect.

DeathBeforeDismount · Oct 1, 2024

DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Well, I was wrong. The strike has begun. So what are the theories now?
Wait a week or two and step in to solve the potential crisis?

The longer it lasts the better it is for us. It's a big fuck you to the democrats who can't really do anything without pissing off their voters right before an election. Alienate tens of millions of union members as strike busters or piss off everyone as people are laid off and shelves go bare.

Imo the short term pain is worth it if it helps T$ get elected.

Lightning8 · Oct 1, 2024

918v said:
How much does a longshoreman make?

$39 per hour after 6 years

Franko · Oct 1, 2024

DeathBeforeDismount said:
They can order them back and instead of doing 30 containers an hour they will do 1. Shits already backed up. They will get what they are asking for or the demo are doing to look even dumber right before the election. I hope biden prolongs this just as a fuck you to Harris.

I didn't think of Biden letting the strike go on as "fuck you" to all the other Democrats who forced him out. A complete halt to east coast shipping traffic would go a long way towards making sure Kamala doesn't win the election. Particularly as this is going to hit most of the swing state's economies pretty hard.

Looks like we are going to see just how bitter Joe is about being forced out.

lonegunman762x51 · Oct 1, 2024

softcock said:
The Facility owners love when Longshoreman go on Strike, they just hire Scab, Pay them less, get the job done in faster time, and end of day, They Make More Bank-$$$
.

Union longshoremen are fucking lazy scum. American port workers are the most expensive and least productive port workers on the planet. They prove their shit commie, left wing asshole leaders are lying sacks of shit by asking for an 80% pay raise.

We are supposed to believe there is no inflation and prices are lower than Trump's years and these cunts want an 80% pay raise.

Fuck communism and fuck every Kamaltoe voting asshole in the country. I'm voting for robots.

918v · Oct 1, 2024

Lightning8 said:
$39 per hour after 6 years

Sounds a little low

Franko · Oct 1, 2024

918v said:
Sounds a little low

Sounds extremely low, years and years ago longshoremen at the Port of Los Angeles and Long Beach were clearing 6 figures. In fact, I remember reading a story that one of the union lawyers quite being a lawyer and went to work as a dockworker as he said the pay was better and the hours were less.

DeathBeforeDismount · Oct 1, 2024

Franko said:
I didn't think of Biden letting the strike go on as "fuck you" to all the other Democrats who forced him out. A complete halt to east coast shipping traffic would go a long way towards making sure Kamala doesn't win the election. Particularly as this is going to hit most of the swing state's economies pretty hard.

Looks like we are going to see just how bitter Joe is about being forced out.

Not even Joe but Jill. She has been running the show the last couple years and was happy with potato head shitting his pants so she could run the country. Harris and the dem cabal pushed her out so it's a nice fuck you right back.

When your enemies are fighting...just sit back and enjoy.

918v · Oct 1, 2024

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