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So now the military is authorized to kill civilians.....
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I’ve seen the new recruits. I feel pretty safe.
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Seen the drone pilots? It’s bigger than fat ass Navy recruits. I get your reply was tongue and cheek, but this is disturbing.
Not sure this is legal, but I don’t expect either side to challenge it.
Only if the military is willing to die for a corrupted tyrannical government that can’t get their ways with the one that eat their sheep’s.
Well one day the mask will come off our government in such a way nobody can pretend anymore.
Then folks on both sides of the "Glorious Uniforms" will have to pick sides and decide what they are willing to do about it.
It's not going to be a pretty day, folks on both sides think they will waltz to victory.
I suspect "Glorious Uniforms" that are "just following orders" will kill a lot of folks before the "good people" get their heads out of their posteriors and stop worshiping the government and Uniforms and decide to do proper justice and retribution.
Who knows what the outcome will be and who will win in the end.
Then folks on both sides of the "Glorious Uniforms" will have to pick sides and decide what they are willing to do about it.
It's not going to be a pretty day, folks on both sides think they will waltz to victory.
I suspect "Glorious Uniforms" that are "just following orders" will kill a lot of folks before the "good people" get their heads out of their posteriors and stop worshiping the government and Uniforms and decide to do proper justice and retribution.
Who knows what the outcome will be and who will win in the end.
Excuse me.....What the fuck happened to the Posse Comitatus Act? Was that just thrown away without so much as a notice?
D.O.D Directive 5240.01 can go to hell.
Just wait boys n' girls....."They" wouldn't have delegated this new directive unless "they" knew what was soon happening. An occurence that "they" will cause themselves, i might add. I sense the previews of a police driven state and a mandatory curfew or martial law becoming initiated before long. The woke Gestapo are returning.
D.O.D Directive 5240.01 can go to hell.
Just wait boys n' girls....."They" wouldn't have delegated this new directive unless "they" knew what was soon happening. An occurence that "they" will cause themselves, i might add. I sense the previews of a police driven state and a mandatory curfew or martial law becoming initiated before long. The woke Gestapo are returning.
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Are you guys idiots? The military has always been authorized to kill Americans. Read the fucking oath. "All enemies foreign and domestic".
Everyone who joins the military promised before God to kill you. "support and defend the Constitution" "Obey the orders of the president and those officers appointed over me"
At no point does it say, we will never kill Americans. Obama happily killed dozens of Americans who fought for various terrorist groups when he was president and no one gave a flying fuck. Every American he killed was apparently extrajudicial punishment and they were civilians. The democrats will gladly use the military to round you up and kill you and officers like Genital Milley will gladly round you up and kill you for his Chinese masters.
The government pays for a military and it works for them, not you.
Everyone who joins the military promised before God to kill you. "support and defend the Constitution" "Obey the orders of the president and those officers appointed over me"
At no point does it say, we will never kill Americans. Obama happily killed dozens of Americans who fought for various terrorist groups when he was president and no one gave a flying fuck. Every American he killed was apparently extrajudicial punishment and they were civilians. The democrats will gladly use the military to round you up and kill you and officers like Genital Milley will gladly round you up and kill you for his Chinese masters.
The government pays for a military and it works for them, not you.
So.....Are all those Oath Keepers gonna be shooting at civilians, now? Just wondering.
This is the reason the Founding Fathers were so opposed to standing armies and big government. The further we stray from their wisdom the harsher the reckoning will be when it comes.
Just in time for the next Jan 6 they are expecting after the next stolen election.
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Doesn’t this make them traitors? Whats the maximum punishment allowed for this in times of war again?
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
Also this is a common thing and has been implemented many fucking times over and over. You can tell newbies and civies don’t pay attention to shit……..
They are still American citizens and thus still allowed all of the protection afforded them via the Constitution. Traitors still get trials. Summary execution is not for civilians.
Democrats are usually the first to decide the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to anyone they disagree with.
This is why I was so amused at the liberal melt-down regarding the Supreme Court ruling on Trump's immunity. The happiest man in American after that ruling was Barack Obama. He now can't be held responsible for having an American teenager assassinated in Yemen for the crime of being the son of a terrorist.
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So what happens when all these shitbirds start attacking us from within. Technically we are not at “war” with anyone, so they aren’t enemy combatants. Do they just get a free pass and sent back home?
I just watched the full Harris fox interview and I found it interesting that she stated that Trump supported authorizing the use of the US military against the American people after one of the questions where she just deflected to orange man bad (as she did all of them)… but the DOD under the secretary of defense that her administration appointed dropped this on 9/27…
This rant is full of errors.
The Constitution places restrictions on the government as it relates to the People, and grants powers to the government in the name of the people. Among others, the Fourth Amendment specifically would prohibit military action against the People by the government, and contrary to popular belief, there is no granted power to suspend liberties or mobilize the military against the People in time of "emergency."
The application of "enemy combatant" as a label on anyone who does not follow the dogma could reasonable be understood to be outside of the People. Or so the neocons and democrats will tell us. But this labeling is false.
Military action against the People is unconstitutional by definition, and will be met with necessary resistance by the People. Unfortunately, you're right, the military and LE organizations are full of scoundrels, boot lickers and idiots who think following an illegal order gives them some respite from the consequences of their acts.
The Nuremburg trials tell us otherwise.
Those who try to turn the military against the People will get what they deserve, and those in the military who follow unconstitutional orders will get what they deserve, as well.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson
Sic Semper Tyrannis - Thus Always to Tyrants
The Constitution places restrictions on the government as it relates to the People, and grants powers to the government in the name of the people. Among others, the Fourth Amendment specifically would prohibit military action against the People by the government, and contrary to popular belief, there is no granted power to suspend liberties or mobilize the military against the People in time of "emergency."
The application of "enemy combatant" as a label on anyone who does not follow the dogma could reasonable be understood to be outside of the People. Or so the neocons and democrats will tell us. But this labeling is false.
Military action against the People is unconstitutional by definition, and will be met with necessary resistance by the People. Unfortunately, you're right, the military and LE organizations are full of scoundrels, boot lickers and idiots who think following an illegal order gives them some respite from the consequences of their acts.
The Nuremburg trials tell us otherwise.
Those who try to turn the military against the People will get what they deserve, and those in the military who follow unconstitutional orders will get what they deserve, as well.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson
Sic Semper Tyrannis - Thus Always to Tyrants
Cut off thier food supply and they will nuke each other.
FUCKEM ALL WITH A CHAINSAW
I work for the army and I can confirm we are coming after all of you and gonna get you with our tanks and tank accessories.
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You shouldn't.
This might be the dumbest shit i've seen anyone post in quite some time.
They arent gonna use Quensbury rules.
Fixed it for you.
Mr Rogers said people front the internet can’t tell ME how to feel.
Also. When/if a people fight their government, it’s never a fair fight, fairness left a long time ago.
Exactly and folks forget about the huge amounts of "private contractors" that various government agencies have on retainer for just such things...
Yeah I worked for the army too at one point in my life.
And by "worked" I mean didn't do shit that didn't involve waste and what the fuck are we doing now.
If I got that as a half drunk teenager guess what I've figured out now.
They should roll some pimp ass equipment up in our backyards that we can take ownership of.
Go green bitches
If you want to distract todays soldiers just offer them free vapes and give them your wifi so they can livestream on tiktok and instagram. While doing this tell the field grades they need to iterate training readiness and after 10 minutes all the vehicles will just break themselves idling.
They’ve already killed civilians in every other country, might as well collect the whole set
The only difference is we know we're your family lives and might actually live next door.
Where do you buy your crack? The 4th amendment does not do shit to stop military action against citizens? Read the fucking text of it.
Military action against civilians will only be prosecuted if the civilians win the military action. Do you really think that if you lose your insurrection, the government will then celebrate its victory by charging and convicting the people that brought them the victory? Really?
The "tree if liberty" is more likely to be refreshed with gravy and French fry grease these days. Thus far you cannot get the opposition party to stand up for voter's rights. The DOJ is fighting to get foreign criminals to vote and at least 20 million dead people are voting in the next election and almost no elected officials are demanding we insure the honesty and integrity of the vote. The fucking media works for communists and billionaires and no blood is refreshing anything.
50% of the country will gladly ride a cattle car to the gulag and the other 50% will gladly kill them and idiot after idiot will be screaming,,"that's unconstitutional" as they die.
The “founding fathers” had no problem directing gov’t violence towards the people they ruled over. The Whiskey Rebellion is one example of the time. Gov’t is rule by violence without exception. This isn’t debatable. Whether or not a man agrees that being ruled by other men is for our own good, I suppose is.
Has it started yet? The old man in me wants to know. Mac
I totally agree but when you start a war in your own backyard your own neighbors become the insurgents you can't turn your back on.
Can't check your mail
Can't start your car
Can't even open your front door without " We'll you get it "
When people feel like they have nothing left to loose it means you have nothing left.
if you read everything out there about posse comitatus,you will realize it is an empty vessel. the insurrection act effectively gets around it.
The Insurrection Act provides an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, authorizing the president to deploy both the regular U.S. military and the active-duty National Guard in cases of insurrection and rebellion.
not that any reluctance to use the military as killing machine of US citizens would ever depend on "the law". the law has been so openly violated and bypassed in last 5 years that it doesn't matter.
the woke military is a joke but still has drones,air,heavy weapons,some remaining hard men,contractors plus the in place cartel,chinese and muslim fighters that our military might not even be used.
i do believe that a blood bath is in the offing if the deep state control gets shakey.
The Insurrection Act provides an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, authorizing the president to deploy both the regular U.S. military and the active-duty National Guard in cases of insurrection and rebellion.
not that any reluctance to use the military as killing machine of US citizens would ever depend on "the law". the law has been so openly violated and bypassed in last 5 years that it doesn't matter.
the woke military is a joke but still has drones,air,heavy weapons,some remaining hard men,contractors plus the in place cartel,chinese and muslim fighters that our military might not even be used.
i do believe that a blood bath is in the offing if the deep state control gets shakey.
Here is the thing. In an interview, VP Harris threw shade on Trump by saying he believes in turning the military on the civilians. Which is not what he said.
He spoke people within the populace causing dangerous problems and damage and injury and that the National Guard could be deployed to bring an end to those bad problems.
Like several governors have already done during the mostly peaceful protests. But because they were demons, I mean democrats, no, I had it right the first time, they were not accused of turning the military on the people.
Not that it couldn't happen.
In order to maintain a well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
He spoke people within the populace causing dangerous problems and damage and injury and that the National Guard could be deployed to bring an end to those bad problems.
Like several governors have already done during the mostly peaceful protests. But because they were demons, I mean democrats, no, I had it right the first time, they were not accused of turning the military on the people.
Not that it couldn't happen.
In order to maintain a well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The 4th Amendment reads:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
How is using force against the People not a violation of "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects?"
I'm not arguing that something a straightforward as the Constitution will stop these bastards, but it is there. My oath is not to what others think the Constitution says, its to the Constitution as I interpret it.
I can't tell from your writings if you'll be hiding in the basement from the foreign criminal army or fighting for the Constitution?
Which doesn't really matter to me. I know where I stand.
The Founding Fathers didn't sue the British, they shot them.
Good plan that.
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
How is using force against the People not a violation of "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects?"
I'm not arguing that something a straightforward as the Constitution will stop these bastards, but it is there. My oath is not to what others think the Constitution says, its to the Constitution as I interpret it.
I can't tell from your writings if you'll be hiding in the basement from the foreign criminal army or fighting for the Constitution?
Which doesn't really matter to me. I know where I stand.
The Founding Fathers didn't sue the British, they shot them.
Good plan that.
Someone actively subverting the Constitution under arms against American citizens fits the definition of "enemy combatant."
If they are in the streets shooting Americans, with no trails, they forfeit the consideration of a trial themselves.
Turn about is fair play.
If they are in the streets shooting Americans, with no trails, they forfeit the consideration of a trial themselves.
Turn about is fair play.
Nothing will happen until they raise the tax on tea. Then things will happen.
A very very small number of Colonials stood to form the Republic. Something like 70% - 85% of the people sat it out and watched from the sidelines. This will be no different.
Therein the root of Jefferson’s other famous quote, “One man with courage makes a majority.”
Therein the root of Jefferson’s other famous quote, “One man with courage makes a majority.”
Biden already said it would be F16s and nukes. Tanks... Ha!
Well idiot, I will not be in the basement. Try the Insurrection Act of 1807 for future reading. It is the reason why leftists were calling the Jan 6th protest an Insurrection. By falsely claiming a peaceful protest was an apparently unarmed insurrection of mostly people over 50 walking thru the Capital Building at the invitation of the Capital Police, the leftists had hoped to entice Biden into using the military against Trump and Trump supporters. When you hear commie fucks using overly exaggerated descriptions like "insurrection" to describe a peaceful protest, ask yourself why?
The 4th Amendment is not relevant because the people who stop them are actually them. If they decide to search your property and they are 48 armed soldiers, exactly what shit dialogue can you find on the internet to stop them? I'm curious.
I promise you 90% of your relatives and 50% of your friends and coworkers will gladly sell you out for a $50 dollar reward or a gift card for 10 gallons of gas. None of your neighbors will come to your defense and more than likely one of your kids will be trading your freedom for their future.
90% of military aged men fled Syria, same for Ukraine. For all the posing fuckers do on this forum when push comes to shove, they will not do a fucking thing. The model for stealing the election was just tested in Venezuela in the spring. Maduro was losing by a 30% margin, exit polls showed a massive defeat for socialism. They stopped counting ballots by 8pm and declared him the winner. Riots ensured and thousands of protestors were killed, Biden/Harris said nothing, leftist American media was utterly silent. Why? Because that was the test run for November. I will be honestly stunned if Trump wins this year. Even with exit polling showing him ahead by 40 points, they will steal the vote.
Currently, there is no organized right. If there was an organized right wing group defending the Constitution it would be made up of FBI agents and informants and led by politicians willing to sell it out as soon as they got a suitable bribe or reward for betraying the values that founded America.
One thing I have pointed out many times since joining the hide, is that Hitler did not change the police in Germany, he simply changed the laws and the cops gladly rounded up Jews, Gypsies, mentally handicapped and anyone who dared to speak out against Nazism. What was right, ethical and legal in 1930 was suddenly illegal in 1940 and the same people did the enforcing the new laws.
Same thing will happen here. One stroke of the pen by President Kamala and every local cop will hunt you down, gangs of illegal immigrant cops or soldiers will burn your house down with you in it. Your neighbors will watch you get carted off and then go thru your house looking for free shit.
By the time the military gets here to kill you, it will be over.
Well I for one have no plans to stop backing the blue anytime soon because I understand that real heroes don’t wear capes.
You won’t be in the basement? What will you be doing?
You’ve waxed on about how bad it’ll be, but not what you’re going to be doing about it.
Other than posting rage on the ‘hide.
Or is calling me an idiot from the safety of you keyboard the limits of your bravery?
You’ve waxed on about how bad it’ll be, but not what you’re going to be doing about it.
Other than posting rage on the ‘hide.
Or is calling me an idiot from the safety of you keyboard the limits of your bravery?
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Telling an FBI troll like you will not be high on the list.
Don't bother waiting for the whites of their eyes.
Anyway, so, either people will do something or they will not.
I rely on my three-step test to determine when a politician is lying.
1) Their lips are moving
2) Sound is coming out in the form of words
3) It is on a day that ends in the letter 'y'
We have had this struggle of a collection of free entities known as states versus a central government.
If a cop enforces a new law that is inconstitutional, how is he any different than the redcoats who were soldiers in charge of the colonists? The color of the jacket?
Something I would think applies to the tactics of Obama, Biden, and certainly now Harris.
He who soweth discord in his own house shall inherit the wind.
Anyway, so, either people will do something or they will not.
I rely on my three-step test to determine when a politician is lying.
1) Their lips are moving
2) Sound is coming out in the form of words
3) It is on a day that ends in the letter 'y'
We have had this struggle of a collection of free entities known as states versus a central government.
If a cop enforces a new law that is inconstitutional, how is he any different than the redcoats who were soldiers in charge of the colonists? The color of the jacket?
Something I would think applies to the tactics of Obama, Biden, and certainly now Harris.
He who soweth discord in his own house shall inherit the wind.
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