If you’re certain you set it for the correct bullet velocity range and have it roughly in a good position, I’d reach out to Garmin.
Mine is super dependable and very forgiving in where I have it.
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Mine is super dependable and very forgiving in where I have it.
Only. Time I had issues was shooting down a hill and I think grass was blocking it. Moved from the mini tripod to mounted on top of scope no more issues
Have you been using it before with no problems? If so, and you didn’t change anything then it sounds like it needs to be repaired. They don’t just do that in my experience (three of us running them).
Yeah, I’ve used it on several other occasions without issue. I ended up resetting it back to factory settings and will try it again tomorrow. Hopefully that helps
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I’m assuming you mounted to a diving board. What clamp did you use for this? I can’t find any with center hole.
Oh I was dumb and bought the whole grey ops set up and I think put a RRS clamp on it. There’s alternatives for $30-50 now
Nope, never missed a shot yet.
Did you set it up right when you opened the session...rifle, MV, placement?
If so, then perhaps yours has a defect and needs a warranty return to Garmin
Went back out today after resetting to factory settings and it recorded every shot. Not sure what the issue was but it appears to be working fine now. Only time will tell
Weird.
Glad you reported it though, in case one of us has a similar thing happen.
Thanks
Glad you reported it though, in case one of us has a similar thing happen.
Thanks
Arca option that is cheaper during Black Friday....
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Leofoto NR Rail with Clamp for Garmin XERO C1 Chronograph NR-140D | Lever-Release Arca + Picatinny Hybrid Clamp Length: 170mm / 6.69 inches Width: 38mm / 1.50 inches Height: 18mm / 0.71 inches Weight: 182g /0.40lb
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$19 on Amazon for a mount that will work. They make some longer ones for $23.
Amazon Arca with clamp
ETA actually found a longer one for $19 also.
Amazon 200 length Arca with clamp
Amazon Arca with clamp
ETA actually found a longer one for $19 also.
Amazon 200 length Arca with clamp
Do you get a motion error message with the Garmin mounted on the diving board, either from recoil or getting into firing position?
I have seen behavior like this or assumed that’s what happened when the Garmin missed a couple shots when I had it rifle mounted.
Are the errors recoil related, or from you mounting the rifle? I ask because I feel the Garmin is finally a solution to me getting chrono data for my 50 without mounting my Rube Goldberg Magneto Speed rig to what is already a monster of a rifle . The 34" barrel makes me think I will have to rifle mount the C1 to get it closer to the bore not to mention the, shall I say generous tank sized muzzle brake.
I refused to buy a LR but have a MS, and a Bulletseeker/SpeedTracker getting repeatable data from that one rifle has been a PIA.
With the C1, you only need to be within 5” or so of the bore line and within 15” of the muzzle. It does not need to be mounted on the rifle to get an accurate reading.
Getting on the rifle and adjusting can definitely trigger it. I think when I have a bad position and let recoil do what it wants I have also dropped several.
@huang I own a primos trigger stick tripod (that I used to use before my RRS came along). Found that it is perfect for mounting the Garmin out by the muzzle.
For example, I use it if the bench I am on is too short or too narrow.
Might be an option. Super fast to set up.
For example, I use it if the bench I am on is too short or too narrow.
Might be an option. Super fast to set up.
Yes, sorry. I specifically meant when rifle-mounted I have observed increased dropped shots, likely due to wiggling/repositioning and/or lack of recoil control. It’s maybe dropped one shot ever when placed on the ground or bench next to the gun per the specified distances.
I've only ever used my Xero mounted on the rifle and I think it's missed maybe ~3 shots over the something like ~400? rounds I've shot over it. Being able to mount it to the rifle is what pushed me over the edge to buy one honestly.
What's better than data collected by the latest cool chrono? Data collected with the chrono placed in the same spot and chrono-to-muzzle relationship for every single shot, that's what. Plus, I can run it when practicing on props/obstacles (which is what most of my practice consists of these days) and it gives me the ability to throw it on for a stage if I'm shooting a match and something about my dope seems wonky.
It does display the error message from too much movement when getting into positions many times (and that may explain my literally few errant shots that didn't get picked up), but 99.9% of the time, if I'm actually doing what I should be doing and getting the rifle stable before I break the shot, it (nearly) always gets it.
What's better than data collected by the latest cool chrono? Data collected with the chrono placed in the same spot and chrono-to-muzzle relationship for every single shot, that's what. Plus, I can run it when practicing on props/obstacles (which is what most of my practice consists of these days) and it gives me the ability to throw it on for a stage if I'm shooting a match and something about my dope seems wonky.
It does display the error message from too much movement when getting into positions many times (and that may explain my literally few errant shots that didn't get picked up), but 99.9% of the time, if I'm actually doing what I should be doing and getting the rifle stable before I break the shot, it (nearly) always gets it.
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Try setting it on the ground and shooting off the bench. It says 5 to 15, but it works farther away than that.
Hell, I hold it pointed over the shoulders of shooters on the bench and get a solid reading.
I use the gray ops mount if am messing around with positional shooting or tripod. If am benched or prone I’ll just do the factory tripod mount, either way the thing has never missed a shot of 22LR, 5.56, 6.5CM, or 7 PRC.
Not sure if it was an update thing but before if I had a string of 20-30 rounds and I got one or two rounds that were either really fast or really slow and would mess up the average I could go into shots and delete them. This would bring my SD back to what it should be. Now even if I delete those two shots the SD and average does not correct itself.
Not sure if it was an update thing but before if I had a string of 20-30 rounds and I got one or two rounds that were either really fast or really slow and would mess up the average I could go into shots and delete them. This would bring my SD back to what it should be. Now even if I delete those two shots the SD and average does not correct itself.
Does anyone have tips for using the Garmin with suppressed 22 pistols? My Garmin is only a few weeks old and have had good luck with subs in rifles.
I want to test some different subsonic 22 ammo through screw on's and 1 or 2 integral pistols. Will be shooting from a bench and can vary distance to target.
The CCI Quiet is listed as 750fps, CCI Subsonic is listed as 1050 fps, the CCI Standard Vel is listed as 1070fps, and Winchester Subsonic Segmented is listed as 1070fps. The Winchester "sounded" like they were supersonic through both screw on and integral. I can't find any CCI Subsonic Segmented local to try.
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I want to test some different subsonic 22 ammo through screw on's and 1 or 2 integral pistols. Will be shooting from a bench and can vary distance to target.
The CCI Quiet is listed as 750fps, CCI Subsonic is listed as 1050 fps, the CCI Standard Vel is listed as 1070fps, and Winchester Subsonic Segmented is listed as 1070fps. The Winchester "sounded" like they were supersonic through both screw on and integral. I can't find any CCI Subsonic Segmented local to try.
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It shouldn’t be a problem if you use the pistol/low velocity setting. I cross checked the velocity of a single cock bb-gun and was registering velocities in the 300 fps range.
As for CCI Standard Velocity, I was getting about 50fps slower than the box velocity at 3200 feet above Sea Level and 35* F. This was from a 22” Marlin 39 rifle.
As for CCI Standard Velocity, I was getting about 50fps slower than the box velocity at 3200 feet above Sea Level and 35* F. This was from a 22” Marlin 39 rifle.
I’ve gotten sound repeatable data on 177 pellets at 380fps.
Unlike the Labradar, “suppressed” or not should have no effect on the Garmin’s ability to pick up shots. It doesn’t use sound to trigger it like the LR does.
Yes, it will throw a movement error message if I move the rifle off or onto the tripod. I was initially worried that the stated 5”-15” distance would be too short to pick up the bullets on my longer barreled rifles but it has worked flawlessly beyond the 15” range. Recoil has never caused an issue.
Just to add to the list of variability of the Garmin I tried it with a paintball gun as well and it picks it up no problem and I was surprised at how far away you can be. I'm talking way more than the 15" in the little diagram screen it gives you when you setup to start your readings.
Paintball- now there was a previous passion I haven't heard mentioned here. Anywho- not surprised that it worked, the Xero is quite possibly the biggest game changer/market disrupter of the decade that I'm aware of.
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How is everyone’s battery life? I feel like I am having to recharge it every other range outing. I expected much better.
I find batter lasts longer if you shut it off between groups. Otherwise no more than around 6-8hrs continuous
Mine last 4-5 trips at about an hour of shooting each.
Cold weather will decrease battery voltage/discharge rate, so they won't last quite as long.
I only use mine for match sight in, maybe 30 minutes or so for a few competitors. Even in 20F weather, it'll last several matches.
I only use mine for match sight in, maybe 30 minutes or so for a few competitors. Even in 20F weather, it'll last several matches.
My battery has degraded a bit since new. I can still get a solid four hours but I've resorted to charging it in between range sessions just to make sure it's topped off. It didn't seem to charge to 100% for a bit there either. Haven't checked it lately but I plan on bringing along a battery pack for longer sessions in the future.
Same. My battery last one range trip. Maybe 3 hours. Been like that since I bought it.
My magneto is still on the same 9v for several years now.
My magneto is still on the same 9v for several years now.
Mine will have 80% left after 2 hours.
I understand the more you shoot the more it uses the battery vs stand by.
I understand the more you shoot the more it uses the battery vs stand by.
I wish they’d have made it with regular batteries vs rechargeable. But of course that’s the future with everything. A battery pack can be had though, but as I stated it lasts enough for how I use it. I mean you shouldn’t be having to use it continuously e every time you go shoot. It’s good for load development and for ballistics calcs.
Same and with 2-3 hour range sessions. I still charge it after 3-4 trips but it’s on 30% still.
I just plug it into an Anker bank while I’m shooting. That will preserve the battery for when I don’t have the anker or don’t want weight and complexity
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I must be doing well. 2-3 range trips off 2-4 hours a piece
I’d probably look at exchanging it under warranty before too much time passes.
