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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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the Russians are the bad guys. Dont forget the narrative. Sure, they let the huge tranny live and didnt even torture it, while our side murders journalists and blows up the daughters of Pro-Russian writers, but dont forget the narrative dammit.
I heard something about that. But also, despite the MSM narrative, the Russians are fighting this war very efficiently with their professional army. they arent throwing new conscripts into human wave attacks.
Russia learned it's lesson with teenage conscripts in the first Chechen war. they wont repeat that mistake again.
Just to add a tiny bit - it looks like at this time, Russians are mostly using paratroppers and naval infantry (aka marines in the "west") for an active warfare in the field. From a bit of personal experience - naval infantry guys are the real bad ass troops, when I've lived in the USSR, these guys were nicknamed "elks", all of them were big in size and looked very physically strong in appearance. These troops are the most trained in general, and are known to have a very pronounced "killer instinct" embedded into them. In the USSR times, no man in the right mind would mess with such "elk", regardless if such a man was a trained fighter or else. Of course, these are not the only troops Russians are currently using...
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I enjoy Russian wit. Elk. never heard that. I know that ineffective GRU agents are called "Borzoi" and are sent to do all the legwork on dirty missions. A Borzoi is a dog with strong legs and a tiny, tiny brain.
Possibly, you'll like something else. Russia actually had/has its own "Gurkas". From a very remote Siberian region called Tuva, close to Mongolia.
If you have nothing to do and wanna learn something interesting, just google "Tuva" and "Great Patriotic War", you know the drill. An interesting historical note - all troops (which were volunteers only) formed in Tuva in 1941 were recalled back from the front in 1944 because, per reports, they killed too many Germans while not taking any prisoners. I certainly do not know if this was true or there were other reasons for this recall.
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Gonzalo did some really silly things like live streaming his escape attempt and saying he was planning to cross to Hungry, which has a very short boarder with Ukraine and limited crossings. Not saying he deserved to die for that but he never really seemed to understand the danger he was in. He also didn't, per my understanding, seek help with the Chilean embassy who were a lot more sympathetic to his cause and did try to help unlike the US.
I tried but I can’t find anything that substantiates the existence of a law either way. Only that the conscripts must have their required training
it would be interesting to know draftees vs volunteers in both armies. won't be findable likely.
I believe you are correct.
but they let him die in there getting sick, not properly taking care of him. All be cause he spoke out about not agreeing with the narrative. Its fucking wrong, Nobody in our government gave a shit when Ukrainians killed a US citizen in their prison system. Because he didn’t agree…
Yet some tranny basketball player get a ton of sympathy and is returned in good health
That’s just fucked.
Yes it was murder and yes the basketball player was really fucking stupid and got off way too easy.
I personally didn't have a very high opinion of him but no one deserved that.
There are few people with strong moral principles in the world and regardless of whether one agrees or not he sure stood firm. Some would say borderline insanity as result was almost guaranteed but in the end he did open quite a few eyes even with his death. If anything there is no one credible on the planet that can claim (and be taken seriously) that all people are equal before the law. In light of such double standard it becomes almost funny looking at MSM pundits spewing their shit and as your elections showed VAST majority of population in America knows who their enemy is. It will come a time when silent majority won't be so silent anymore.
I didn’t either, but he had some vaild points when it came to this conflict. That didn’t tow the Ukraine propaganda line. It’s not like he was outstanding in the street blocking traffic or lighting buildings on fire. He was just making videos and posting them online.
Just another example of how twisted this whole thing is.
Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev calls a number of NATO officials and the Times executives a “legitimate target” for the Russian army
"Medvedev also categorized as legitimate targets those who aided and assisted in decisions to supply arms to Ukraine. “They are also henceforth a legitimate military target. They can also include the lousy jackals from The Times who cowardly hid behind an editorial. It means all of the newspaper’s executives,” Medvedev warned."
"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has conceded that Ukraine does not have the ability to drive Russian forces out of the territory Russia has captured since the 2022 invasion, as well as Crimea, which Russia has controlled since 2014.
“We cannot give up our territories. The Ukrainian constitution forbids us to do so. De facto, these territories are now controlled by the Russians. We do not have the strength to recover them,” Zelensky told the French newspaper Le Parisien.
“We can only count on diplomatic pressure from the international community to force Putin to sit down at the negotiating table,” the Ukrainian leader added."
Ukraine urged to pause military action amid critical crisis
"In his analysis on wprost.pl, General Waldemar Skrzypczak highlights that Ukraine is in a deep crisis due to a shortage of manpower. Some brigades have been in continuous combat since the beginning of the war," he notes. The situation is exacerbated by the inability to replenish units and the losses from the failed offensive in Zaporizhzhia in June 2023.
In light of these challenges, General Skrzypczak emphasizes that the only way to save Ukraine is to halt its military activities."
The collapses always happen fast, are Ukies there i think not yet but you never know once snowball starts it will grow and grow. Recent desertions and “withdrawals” of entire units were more or less patched. The few motivated rabid nazi units are still relatively powerful and mobile enough to plug the leaks. For how long more one would need serious intel (real one not fabricated one) so all we (outside those in charge) can do is guess.
Waiting for millitas to upgrade their bootcamps to drone dodging
This channel is one of the best, period. Guy is a Romanian, residing in the U.K. I also have a friend, who is a Romanian, residing in the U.S. Very smart guy, great engineer and a real gentleman. For those who do not know, Romanian language is great sounding and relatively easy to learn.
Here is one of the videos from that guy, Sebastian Sas, I watch all his videos every day:
Here is one of the videos from that guy, Sebastian Sas, I watch all his videos every day:
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i am curious about the effectiveness of oreshnik or the air defenses to thwart the weapon.
apparently the "test" was not intercepted by anything.
This is still in the 'pics or it didn't happen category', The NK thing has been dodgy from the start.
Speaking of war changing events that didn't happen, anyone see any evidence of the F-16s being used at all?
I think in theory, any hypersonic missile can be intercepted by sufficiently powerful and perfectly aimed laser beam. An obvious issue - who will be able to develop and deploy such laser based systems in sufficient qtys in the nearest 5-10 years?
Define intercepted? As in tickled by the ray, exploded, diverted, neutralized?
A mass of metal traveling at those speeds cannot be touched in any other meaningful way but tickled until impact. A nuke high up impacted by kinetic interceptor - perhaps but in descending part of trajectory its useless and wont do shit.
By now it should be clear to anyone that “top gun” stories are not real and that most if not all western designed systems are expensive pieces of overhyped stats that in real world do not perform as expected - bradley being an exception.
A mass of metal traveling at those speeds cannot be touched in any other meaningful way but tickled until impact. A nuke high up impacted by kinetic interceptor - perhaps but in descending part of trajectory its useless and wont do shit.
By now it should be clear to anyone that “top gun” stories are not real and that most if not all western designed systems are expensive pieces of overhyped stats that in real world do not perform as expected - bradley being an exception.
I think when talking about interception, it may be kind of logical to use the word "exploded". But, and I perfectly know this myself, I'm no expert.
At any rate, it looks like Russia is far ahead in missile technology, both in quality and in quantity, and they spent their money wisely.
Also, Russia appears to like using various "change flight direction" tricks in their missile designs, so "perfectly aiming" at their missiles will be a challenge even for a laser system. For example, I was always a pretty decent clay pigeons shooter, 23-24 out of 25 was a norm, but when it was time for me to shoot at live flying ducks, I've failed miserably when trying to hit a duck that actually changed its fly path any way a duck wanted.
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Just basic math and physics will do. A mass of 36 metal "rods" flying at above mach > 7 has an energy (and obviously speed) that no device known to man will firstly hit and secondly even if hit divert or destroy - its like shooting at asteroids and expecting a big kaboom, little mass simply won't do and big mass cannot "steer" that fast to intercept. As for laser how exactly would it penetrate plasma around hypersonic vehicle and even if it did it would have to be a hugely powerful device with capacitors driven by multiple trucks and mobile as fuck - not. Not to mention tracking/environment issues. Even nukes as a relatively sensitive tech might be non-touchable - hope we don't find out...
An interesting factor I didn't think of is that hypersonic missiles are already massively protected from heat due to the faster ones being sheathed in plasma, lasers don't seem like a viable option as the time on target would be unacceptable and probably impossible for anything that can manoeuvre.
Well, it finally happened.
Stupid ukes really wanted to be hit, not sure why.
Anyway, Russia hit a city of Kiev tonight.
Russia really tried not to do that for nearly 3 years, but I guess the killing of the general in Moscow was too much to tolerate. Ukes broke all the rules.
Video is not in English, but it is also not in Russian, just a video.
Another 2 videos, a bit in English:
In any case, it is all very sad. But all this crap is 100% uke's clown fault... His life expectancy is now very reduced.
Stupid ukes really wanted to be hit, not sure why.
Anyway, Russia hit a city of Kiev tonight.
Russia really tried not to do that for nearly 3 years, but I guess the killing of the general in Moscow was too much to tolerate. Ukes broke all the rules.
Video is not in English, but it is also not in Russian, just a video.
Another 2 videos, a bit in English:
In any case, it is all very sad. But all this crap is 100% uke's clown fault... His life expectancy is now very reduced.
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Got to remember Kiev is one of the "Hero Cities" of the "Great Patriotic War", not an easy decision to put strategy and tactics over heart.
This would be like bombing Concord or Lexington for certain generations of Russian.
This would be like bombing Concord or Lexington for certain generations of Russian.
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More details about Kiev. Mostly during the first 7 minutes of the video. English used by the video creator is not perfect, but is still understandable.
But the attack on Kiev has nothing to do with what the clown said about V. Putin. Per many other sources of info, Russians hit - Kiev military production factories, Kiev miliary airfield and various places in Kiev which are associated with SBU.
Another interesting video:
But the attack on Kiev has nothing to do with what the clown said about V. Putin. Per many other sources of info, Russians hit - Kiev military production factories, Kiev miliary airfield and various places in Kiev which are associated with SBU.
Another interesting video:
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I think the news release below is interesting and kinda cool.
I really think Putin would do it if we agreed.
I'm also guessing he is quite sure we would never agree to that and run the risk of world humiliation.
I think that is the only reason he publicly offered because his Defense cabinet would revolt at the idea of doing it for real and openly give the US and west an opportunity to prepare a real time ISR technical data capture of the weapon's prep, launch, transit and terminal phases.
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Headline from last night.
Putin taunted the West with a proposed missile 'duel of the 21st century' between the Oreshnik and US-made defenses
Russian leader Vladimir Putin suggested on Thursday that an experimental "duel" be held between Moscow's newly unveiled Oreshnik missile and Western-made air defenses.
Speaking at his annual press conference, Putin slammed the idea that the Oreshnik could be shot down by anti-missile defenses.
"If the experts in the West think so, well, let them come up with a proposal to us, and to the US. They can suggest a kind of technological experiment, a kind of high-tech fighting duel of the 21st century," Putin said, per a translation of the conference.
Putin said both parties could agree upon a target in Kyiv, where Ukraine could "concentrate all of their air defense and anti-missile defense."
"We will strike it with Oreshnik and we will see what's going to happen. We are willing to conduct such an experiment," he said.
He also suggested that it could benefit the US by allowing the Pentagon to glean information from the strike.
"So let's conduct this duel and look at the outcome. It's going to be interesting because it's going to be useful both to us and the American side," he added.
Trump loves this shit. Being an old school baddie is cool again.
I couldn't help but notice the Mercedes, BMWs, Lexus 480s, Audis, Land Cruisers and Infinities we paid for. That was a nice Holiday Inn!
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And the republicants. They have done nothing about there being a potato in charge of the military or the government. They are just as guilty as the Pravda and democrap party.
They are happy with the $$$ that is keeping them quiet.
Sounds like training penal batalions
Camp in the Czech Republic , where sappers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) were trained , was cordoned off due to fears of escapes.Bros want to fight for Ukraine so badly that they have to be locked up in training.
Camp in the Czech Republic , where sappers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) were trained , was cordoned off due to fears of escapes.Bros want to fight for Ukraine so badly that they have to be locked up in training.
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