Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action

slodsm · Jan 17, 2025

So after probably 1k rounds total of RWS, SKRM, Eley match, Eley Team, Wolf ME, and FINALLY gave up and bought some Lapua Pistol King as there was literally no other Lapua ammo on planet earth…..

My Vudoo shoots like a Vudoo and I got some hero groups. I was starting to think mine was as broke lmao, it shot well, but only at 50 yards, absolutely fell apart at 100 and beyond no matter which ammo I used and my Tikka would shoot circles around it out to 300.

Today I only setup steel at 200 and 300 but my 50 and 100 yard groups have 2 pretty distinct happy places with my Cortina Tuner and it was repeatable in and out.

Setup is a V22 V2, TT Diamond, MDT CRS, Warne mount, Leupold MK4 8-32, Warne GRND-PD, and this was shot off a wiebad mini fortune cookie for a rear bag.

Now I can finally see the hype is about more than just the smoothest action I’ve ever touched. The one single random hole a couple of inches away from the really good group at 50yds was sighting the scope in from bore sight, just swapped this scope on last night.

I’ll be hunting down and buying as much of this pistol king as I can.

littlesister · Jan 17, 2025

slodsm said:
So after probably 1k rounds total of RWS, SKRM, Eley match, Eley Team, Wolf ME, and FINALLY gave up and bought some Lapua Pistol King as there was literally no other Lapua ammo on planet earth…..

My Vudoo shoots like a Vudoo and I got some hero groups. I was starting to think mine was as broke lmao, it shot well, but only at 50 yards, absolutely fell apart at 100 and beyond no matter which ammo I used and my Tikka would shoot circles around it out to 300.

Today I only setup steel at 200 and 300 but my 50 and 100 yard groups have 2 pretty distinct happy places with my Cortina Tuner and it was repeatable in and out.

Setup is a V22 V2, TT Diamond, MDT CRS, Warne mount, Leupold MK4 8-32, Warne GRND-PD, and this was shot off a wiebad mini fortune cookie for a rear bag.

Now I can finally see the hype is about more than just the smoothest action I’ve ever touched. The one single random hole a couple of inches away from the really good group at 50yds was sighting the scope in from bore sight, just swapped this scope on last night.

I’ll be hunting down and buying as much of this pistol king as I can.

You might find that the next lot of Pistol King shoots like crap. It's not about the name. It's all about that particular lot!

slodsm · Jan 17, 2025

littlesister said:
You might find that the next lot of Pistol King shoots like crap. It's not about the name. It's all about that particular lot!

Oh I know man, I did this with the Tikka using a Shilen barrel but it like pretty much EVERY Eley round out there, the groups just got tighter with the money spent but it shot them all well. When I found the Eley Match it liked I bought a ton of it.

This barrel I was starting the think literally hated everything. Now I gotta try to find this lot number from good shooting or someone and buy a butt ton as I only have 2k of this.

Kadams1563 · Jan 17, 2025

Those groups at 100 yards are good. I just did a test with 100 rounds of SK Long Range, 100 Lapua Long Range, and 100 of Lapua Super long Range. Did groups at 50 (they were all touching and ragged holes), 100 opened up to about MOA, 200 yards groups averaged about 2.5”-3”.

The Lapua along Range absolutely shot the best between my DI precision and my buddies Vudoo Bartlien.

With that being said ordered a case of SK long range die to the groups and data being 98% of the Lapua Long Range but much cheaper. Cases of SK long Range for under a $1000.

Edit: I also did 10 shot groups. If I stick with 5 shot groups I could have cherry picked several at 100 that were stacking. Once you shoot 10 you get one that has to go somewhere else. Lol

flatland1 · Jan 17, 2025

I bought a full case of SK Pistol Match several years ago after lot testing five or six lots of it, and finding out that the hardest thing to do was to try to figure out which of those lots shot best - it all shot great! But I think it was only really that good at 50yds. Still have a few bricks of it, so could always try it again in my Vudoo repeaters to see if that's correct. Found similar results with some of the SK Std+ that shot really well at 50. The outlier was one particular lot of Std+ that out-shot most of the other various grades of SK & Lapua I had at 200yds. out of Lilja & Benchmark barrels I had on the two converted 40X repeaters at the time.

I've seen a few lots of Eley Match with the flat-nose bullets that shot significantly better 200yd groups out of my Vudoos than even the Lapua Center-X I bought after sending a Vudoo out to Mesa to have it lot tested. Never had a lot of luck getting Eley to feed smoothly though, so have stuck with an exceptional lot of SK Rifle Match & the lot tested Center-X.

ToddM · Jan 18, 2025

Pistol Match is one of those you hear about often and folks feel strongly one way or another about. For every guy that swears by the stuff there's one saying it shot horrible. These days it seems like lot to lot variation is increasing, and it's increasingly harder to buy a lot when you find a good one. Shooting enough rounds is hard as well. Someone posted quite awhile ago in one of the rimfire forums that even they guys at the testing center mentioned that the highest tier ammo can have 1-2 "bad" rounds in a box. Granted I'm sure Center-x, Tenex "bad" rounds are not as bad as Eley Club etc. Along with the fact that it seems to be a mystery (or at least highly contended) on if you are really getting the best results based on cleaning and switching ammo. Some say you might have to fire 100-500 rounds to "season" a barrel to a certain ammo and get the best groups, and if you switch ammo at the range testing I've read over the years people report anywhere from 5 to 100+ rounds is needed because of the lube changes between brands. So if that's true, it would seem the vast majority may not shooting enough of a particular ammo/lot to really know it's max performance.

It seems like the easy button is to send it out to a testing center or two, and buy whatever tests best, but as others have noted what groups best at 50/100 may not at 200-300. It will be interesting with the expanse of long range rimfire if we'll ever see testing centers that expand their max ranges.

flatland1 · Jan 18, 2025

In my experience with mostly Krieger cut-rifled & Shilen select match ratchet button rifled bbls on 40X, Vudoo, and CZ repeaters, I've never seen the need for more than a very few rounds after cleaning to get a barrel shooting to its potential again. While it's typical to see some effects when switching between SK/Lapua & Eley without cleaning, I can't say that I've ever seen anything that would lead me to believe that it could take more than a couple of 5-shot strings to get back to a barrel's potential accuracy. I've also had a couple of Benchmark barrels & one Lilja on 40X & a V22S, but haven't seen any real difference in how quickly they 'settle' after switching brands of ammo either. The Lilja was a tite-bore, and it seemed to me that it needed cleaning after 100-125rds to maintain its accuracy, but it shot at least as good as any of the other custom barrels I've owned up to that point, and it never took more than a few wet patches followed by a couple of dry ones to bring it back up to the level of accuracy that it was capable of. With the exception of that barrel, I'm not one of those guys who will shoot a 22RF bbl until the accuracy drops off before cleaning. I wet patch after every range session, whether I shoot 5-10rds or a couple hundred during a match. Unless I find a carbon ring (which is unusual with my frequent cleaning), I seldom use a solvent more exotic than plain old Ed's Red.
I'm pretty sure I don't shoot nearly as much or as often as some of the guys on here - still working the farm full-time without any hired help, and that & the shortage of SK/Lapua ammo keeps me from shooting as much as I'd like. So take the above for what it's worth - just my opinion, based on somewhat limited experience...

AirGunShawn · Jan 18, 2025

My V22 also shot like trash. It went back to Vudoo and then to Lapua for lot testing. My ammo was
SK Standard plus, SK Rifle match, Center-X, Midas Plus, and even a fair amount of high end ELEY products.
Like $24.00 a box type of ELEY. As a side bar ..... not a single rifle I own likes any ELEY products. I just took a quick look
and I still have over 20 bricks of various brands and lot numbers from my Vudoo testing. Below is my Walther UIT Super.
A quick and dirty scope mount, 30/40 rounds of warm up shooting, three pair on the left side of the target and five
rounds in the lower right corner. Its date code is "IA". I won it on GB for a grand total of $1126.93. My V22 was
over $3300.00 Did you consider sending it out for lot testing? I bought a case each for all three of my
actions so the $50.00 testing fees were waived. That also meant that Lapua found my Center X ammo for me.

The only two scopes I have left. Trijicon 5-50x56 moa. Crystal clear even at 10 yards and 50 power. Expensive but
necessary for Field Target air rifle.

Above, in post #10807, Flatlands said, "I've never seen the need for more than a very few rounds after cleaning to get a
barrel shooting to its potential again. " I have observed the similar thing. I don't find that a lot of shots are required to
determine If my rifle tends to like a new lot. Keep in mind, I'm just getting a quick idea and not doing exhaustive testing yet.

Pondskipper · Monday at 3:16 AM

Not trying to hijack the post but is it true someone took one of these rifles to 1300+ yards in 22LR? I know they are supposed to be good rifles but that just seems a little far fetched.

Longshot231 · Monday at 7:43 AM

Pondskipper said:
Not trying to hijack the post but is it true someone took one of these rifles to 1300+ yards in 22LR? I know they are supposed to be good rifles but that just seems a little far fetched.

I don't know about 1300 yards but they took the CZ455 to 1000 yards.

brianf · Monday at 9:14 AM

Pondskipper said:
Not trying to hijack the post but is it true someone took one of these rifles to 1300+ yards in 22LR? I know they are supposed to be good rifles but that just seems a little far fetched.

It’s called artillery and a waste of money

Longshot231 · Monday at 9:58 AM

brianf said:
It’s called artillery and a waste of money

It is not a waste of money if it’s fun for the person spending it.

I would rather spend it on shooting than other useless endeavors like whores, wives or whiskey.

The furthest that I’ve shot my Vudoo and a few other rimfire rifles was 500 yards. It was the most fun a person could have with their clothes on.

ballisticdaddy · Monday at 10:13 AM

Longshot231 said:
It is not a waste of money if it’s fun for the person spending it.

I would rather spend it on shooting than other useless endeavors like whores, wives or whiskey.

The furthest that I’ve shot my Vudoo and a few other rimfire rifles was 500 yards. It was the most fun a person could have with their clothes on.

If it's not repeatable then it's pure luck to hit that target even with NO wind, hard to find the skill nor accuracy in this

Longshot231 · Monday at 10:28 AM

ballisticdaddy said:
If it's not repeatable then it's pure luck to hit that target even with NO wind, hard to find the skill nor accuracy in this

To each their own.

Csafisher · Monday at 10:44 AM

ballisticdaddy said:
If it's not repeatable then it's pure luck to hit that target even with NO wind, hard to find the skill nor accuracy in this

Tell that to all the random golfers who suck…….. lol

LR1845 · Monday at 12:41 PM

Longshot231 said:
It is not a waste of money if it’s fun for the person spending it.

I would rather spend it on shooting than other useless endeavors like whores, wives or whiskey.

The furthest that I’ve shot my Vudoo and a few other rimfire rifles was 500 yards. It was the most fun a person could have with their clothes on.

Now I agree with most of this but you sir have crossed the line calling whores useless endeavors.

Schütze · Monday at 12:44 PM

ballisticdaddy said:
If it's not repeatable then it's pure luck to hit that target even with NO wind, hard to find the skill nor accuracy in this

Like all elr shooting? Thanks for your professional advice.

ballisticdaddy · Monday at 1:02 PM

Schütze said:
Like all elr shooting? Thanks for your professional advice.

Never even mentioned ELR shooting but 3 out of 40 impacts is not what I would call accurate on a light wind day in my amateur opinion.

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J-Ham · Monday at 1:11 PM

True, but they're pushing the envelope of what's possible... And 20 years from now, what is common will probably be what was considered impossible (or at least unlikely) today.

Pondskipper · Monday at 1:53 PM

ballisticdaddy said:
If it's not repeatable then it's pure luck to hit that target even with NO wind, hard to find the skill nor accuracy in this

Actually the article I read in gun digest the guy had 4 consecutive impacts at 1004 yards with it and eventually went on to stretch it out to 3/4 of a mile (1325 yds) and at 800 yds shot a group about the size of a fist so I don’t think I’d call it luck.

ballisticdaddy · Monday at 2:52 PM

Pondskipper said:
Actually the article I read in gun digest the guy had 4 consecutive impacts at 1004 yards with it and eventually went on to stretch it out to 3/4 of a mile (1325 yds) and at 800 yds shot a group about the size of a fist so I don’t think I’d call it luck.

Apples and oranges, my comments were regarding the Mark & Sam video posted above. 4 consecutive impacts is far better accuracy and precision than the 3 impacts out of 40 shots which I was commenting on.

Longshot231 · Monday at 4:40 PM

J-Ham said:
True, but they're pushing the envelope of what's possible... And 20 years from now, what is common will probably be what was considered impossible (or at least unlikely) today.

At the local gun club, I started shooting golf balls, then paint balls, then empty 22LR cases, then splitting playing cards at 100 yards.

When it started with the golf balls, some fellow members looked at me like I was crazy. That didn't last long till they saw the hits. I will be the first to admit that I do have some misses.

The hits become less as the targets get smaller. With respect to the playing cards, I know my limits and will try to wait till a calm day for those targets. Even at that, a 1 mph puff of wind can through you off quite a bit. I would say that my success rate at splitting cards is about 20-25%.

Is that a waste of money? I don't think so. I really have to be cognizant of the slightest breeze and concentrate on every shot. I think it's good training and practice. Aim small - miss small.

Some folks will laugh at my claims for splitting playing cards but if you have a super accurate rimfire go ahead and try it. You might surprise yourself. The experience of splitting a playing card at 100 yards is - sensual!

Years ago, before I could afford an expensive target rifle with optics to match, I never dreamed I would have the opportunity to do things like that!

So when I go to the range I shoot at 50 yards to zero the rifle.

Below is a photo of the target frame set up to shoot playing cards. Note the horizontal furring strip. I cut slots in it with a mitre box to make sure they are at right angles. The wood strip is clamped onto the frame and levelled with a carpenter's level. This helps to avoid canting the rifle.

Then the cards are placed in the slots. A piece of folded card stock is put in the slot with each card. The slots are too narrow to hold the playing cards. So a folded piece of card stock holds them in place.

So getting back to your point; "And 20 years from now, what is common will probably be what was considered impossible (or at least unlikely) today."

Williwaw · Monday at 5:12 PM

Longshot231 said:
Some folks will laugh at my claims for splitting playing cards but if you have a super accurate rimfire go ahead and try it. You might surprise yourself. The experience of splitting a playing card at 100 yards is - sensual!

At my age sensational is about as good as it gets most days.

Longshot231 · Monday at 8:31 PM

I had posted this video earlier on another thread. I'm not sure how much other research has been conducted on this phenomena yet it's still worth looking at when discussing ELR with a rimfire.

Emerson0311 · Monday at 8:36 PM

Longshot231 said:
I had posted this video earlier on another thread. I'm not sure how much other research has been conducted on this phenomena yet it's still worth looking at when discussing ELR with a rimfire.

My Eley match through my Duece will average about 1120 at 15C. SD 6-7 pretty tight Vert at 100. I have to do more testing at 200/300.

Dead Eye Dick · Monday at 8:57 PM

Longshot231 said:
So getting back to your point; "And 20 years from now, what is common will probably be what was considered impossible (or at least unlikely) today."

When I was a wee lad of 16 or 17, the talk was all about Bench Rest matches at the astounding and unheard of range of 1000 yards. To achieve reasonable groups capable of winning, such monsters as 300 H&H magnum and 6.5x300 Weatherby Wright Magnum were considered the rifle it took. (Though they were also experimenting with the 6.5x.284 Winchester). And a lot of fellows still depended on the .30-06 shooting 200-220 grainers.

Hitting anything beyond 400 yards was considered a super shot. (Never mind, Billy Dixon making a mile shot at Adobe Walls in the 1800’s or Carlos Hathcock making a 2500 yard shot with a BMG in the 1960’s which was contemporary.

Now even folks like me can reach out to 1200 yards or more shooting nothing more powerful than a 6GT. (Done it in front of witnesses) and of course hitting multiple shots beyond 1000 yards in PRS matches. So

As you say, 20 years from now, we will all be amazed at what we struggled to do, back in the good ole 2020’s. (Heck, I’ll only be 96. And I DO expect to be here).

Point, making incredible shots in front of witnesses or in competition, where the ranges are measured, verifying distances are not something to be scoffed at. Better to go out and try to beat it.

Kadams1563 · Monday at 8:58 PM

Even the best .22 ammo falls apart after
300 IMO.

have I and can I shoot itnfirther? Yes but with realistic hits past that I struggle. It it s fun shooting thin plates at 500 though.

Did a lot of ammo testing last week and 200 yard groups were probably 2”-3”. I bet it would double at 300.

Hoser · Monday at 11:01 PM

Eley Tenex. Lot tested at the Olympic Training Center. 16 inch Vudoo with ACE barrel and TBAC suppressor.

390 yards. Five shots in a 3-4 inch group.

About 15-20 minutes later I was able to keep all but one shot on the same target moved out to 610 yards. I dont know if that missing shot landed in the same zip code or maybe I fell asleep and only fired four shots.

390

610

Kadams1563 · Tuesday at 2:23 AM

Hoser said:
Eley Tenex. Lot tested at the Olympic Training Center. 16 inch Vudoo with ACE barrel and TBAC suppressor.

390 yards. Five shots in a 3-4 inch group.

About 15-20 minutes later I was able to keep all but one shot on the same target moved out to 610 yards. I dont know if that missing shot landed in the same zip code or maybe I fell asleep and only fired four shots.

390

610

Oh wow. My “tested” high end ammo doesn’t do that lol.

021411 · Thursday at 2:32 PM

I was perusing L3I’s FB posts from SHOT and per the comment I read it looks like they’ll be shaving about 5 oz off their next run of Stinger mags. I’m glad they are paying attention because no one asked for heavy ass mags on a rimfire. Well maybe some actually did.

Mark_Dorman · Thursday at 2:36 PM

021411 said:
I was perusing L3I’s FB posts from SHOT and per the comment I read it looks like they’ll be shaving about 5 oz off their next run of Stinger mags. I’m glad they are paying attention because no one asked for heavy ass mags on a rimfire. Well maybe some actually did.

That'll be nice. It would be extra nice if we could send our current ones in to get lighted up. I would love mine to be 5 oz lighter. Maybe they'll offer an exchange program? @Thesepaperwings any chance earlier customers can get their Stinger mags updated?

ma smith · Thursday at 2:59 PM

021411 said:
I was perusing L3I’s FB posts from SHOT and per the comment I read it looks like they’ll be shaving about 5 oz off their next run of Stinger mags. I’m glad they are paying attention because no one asked for heavy ass mags on a rimfire. Well maybe some actually did.

Kudos to these guys for at least starting to read the room.

Thesepaperwings · Thursday at 3:04 PM

ma smith said:
Kudos to these guys for at least starting to read the room.

The crazy part is that its a pretty even split. The guys who shoot centerfire PRS and rimfire PRS normally like the heavy one. The guys who shoot just rimfire lean towards the light one

021411 · Thursday at 3:11 PM

Thesepaperwings said:
The crazy part is that its a pretty even split. The guys who shoot centerfire PRS and rimfire PRS normally like the heavy one. The guys who shoot just rimfire lean towards the light one

We’ll revisit this statistic once the light version has been out as long as the original. I’m definitely curious.

RubiconJoey · Thursday at 3:11 PM

I'd much rather have a light magazine and be able to put weight on my chassis where I want it (at the extremities) to get my balance correct. Weight at the magwell doesn't shift the balance point that much. With rimfire I don't need the extra weight for recoil management so weight at the magwell doesn't benefit me much.

Thesepaperwings · Thursday at 3:13 PM

RubiconJoey said:
I'd much rather have a light magazine and be able to put weight on my chassis where I want it (at the extremities) to get my balance correct. Weight at the magwell doesn't shift the balance point that much. With rimfire I don't need the extra weight for recoil management so weight at the magwell doesn't benefit me much.

Yeah it doesn't really effect balance since it's at the magwell but if you don't want it to feel like a full centerfire mag then shaving a few oz definitely helps.

Mark_Dorman · Thursday at 3:14 PM

Thesepaperwings said:
The crazy part is that its a pretty even split. The guys who shoot centerfire PRS and rimfire PRS normally like the heavy one. The guys who shoot just rimfire lean towards the light one

It doesn't bother me that much, but I would appreciate a little less weight. I feel like the stinger mag still weighs a a few oz more than a full loaded 10-12 round centerfire mag. Depends on ammo and such, but they're quite heavy even by centerfire standards.

Hell, a full 30 round AR mag only weighs 0.1 lbs more than an empty Stinger mag.

021411 · Thursday at 3:20 PM

If anyone is curious, go back to post #10,766 and the following posts. I weighed my CF mag for comparison.

Mark_Dorman · Thursday at 3:24 PM

021411 said:
If anyone is curious, go back to post #10,766 and the following posts. I weighed my CF mag for comparison.

I couldn't remember who'd done the weight comparison.

021411 said:
MDT 12rd steel mag with 140gr ELD 6.5CM weighs 18.3 oz. Stinger mag fully loaded with Lapua CX is 19 oz.

So someone with a 10rd mag running a 6mm (BR/Dasher/GT) cartridge is probably at least 4oz lighter.

021411 · Thursday at 3:26 PM

Mark_Dorman said:
I couldn't remember who'd done the weight comparison.

So someone with a 10rd mag running a 6mm (BR/Dasher/GT) cartridge is probably at least 4oz lighter.

My Gray Ops BR mag

Gray Ops 12rd BR mag loaded to full capacity with 105 Hybrids using Alpha Dasher brass with 30.4gn of powder each only weighs 13.6 oz total.

021411 · Thursday at 3:30 PM

If you want a product to be throughly critiqued prior to production make sure they are in the hands of regular people who will scrutinize the shit out of it. We don’t have multi product filming deadlines or video editing which take up actual review time.

Also do you think jersey’ed shooters will actually spend time fiddling with a product outside of the range and match? Doubt it.

carbonbased · Thursday at 4:17 PM

021411 said:
My Gray Ops BR mag

Gray Ops 12rd BR mag loaded to full capacity with 105 Hybrids using Alpha Dasher brass with 30.4gn of powder each only weighs 13.6 oz total.

And, as mentioned prev, an empty stinger mag is just over 16oz. Wtf. Are they lined with depleted uranium?

Or just the yellowcake stuff lol

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