Trump is back…the “Now What” thread

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a bit of it...also took bolton's security clearance away.

Federal policymakers must be able to rely on analysis conducted by the Intelligence Community and be confident that it is accurate, crafted with professionalism, and free from politically motivated engineering to affect political outcomes in the United States. The signatories willfully weaponized the gravitas of the Intelligence Community to manipulate the political process and undermine our democratic institutions. This fabrication of the imprimatur of the Intelligence Community to suppress information essential to the American people during a Presidential election is an egregious breach of trust reminiscent of a third world country. And now the faith of Americans in all other patriotic intelligence professionals who are sworn to protect the Nation has been imperiled.
 
Amazing. I had no idea an EO could change the constitution. Awesome.
he expects to be challenged, and the court can interpret the law.
imho the 14th amendment was adopted for freed slaves, not so that illegal immigrant criminals can gain a legal foothold into our country.
countless chinese women have flown into the country, had their baby, and flown home with their newly minted "citizen".
this was not what they intended in 1868.
 
he expects to be challenged, and the court can interpret the law.
imho the 14th amendment was adopted for freed slaves, not so that illegal immigrant criminals can gain a legal foothold into our country.
You’re not supposed to be able to profit from a crime right? That’s why no book deals to inmates or keeping hidden gains? So isn’t “winning” citizenship for your spawn the same thing?
 
You’re not supposed to be able to profit from a crime right? That’s why no book deals to inmates or keeping hidden gains? So isn’t “winning” citizenship for your spawn the same thing?
i'm not sure it could be considered as such, but certainly the government at the time was not intending to give automatic citizenship to the children of illegal invaders. i assume it simply wasn't something they could have envisioned at the time.
the intention was to give former slaves and their children all the rights and protections they were denied as slaves.
 
he expects to be challenged, and the court can interpret the law.
imho the 14th amendment was adopted for freed slaves, not so that illegal immigrant criminals can gain a legal foothold into our country.
countless chinese women have flown into the country, had their baby, and flown home with their newly minted "citizen".
this was not what they intended in 1868.
And he will lose. The USSC has already ruled on this, and unless something very unusual and new is able to be brought up in arguments (not likely), they will not even grant certiorari.
 
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i'm not sure it could be considered as such, but certainly the government at the time was not intending to give automatic citizenship to the children of illegal invaders. i assume it simply wasn't something they could have envisioned at the time.
The case was argued long after slavery, 1898 actually. Profiting from a crime? That's a good one. The citizen committed no crime to begin with. And the argument goes nowhere from there.
 
The case was argued long after slavery, 1898 actually. Profiting from a crime? That's a good one. The citizen committed no crime to begin with. And the argument goes nowhere from there.
do you believe they passed this amendment so that illegal immigrant criminals could have a baby that was automatically entitled to all the protections and welfare benefits (that didn't exist back then)?
 
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do you believe they passed this amendment so that illegal immigrant criminals could have a baby that was automatically entitled to all the protections and welfare benefits (that didn't exist back then)?
I know the issue of birthright citizenship has been argued before the Supreme Court, and has stood for well over 100 years. There only a couple of ways around this, and they all involve Congress. Not Donny. You can believe whatever you like about the thought processes involved in drafting and ratifying the amendment. And your beliefs are quite irrelevant.
 
I know the issue of birthright citizenship has been argued before the Supreme Court, and has stood for well over 100 years. There only a couple of ways around this, and they all involve Congress. Not Donny. You can believe whatever you like about the thought processes involved in drafting and ratifying the amendment. And your beliefs are quite irrelevant.
nice dodge, sparky.
of course they are (as are my opinions on cabinet picks etc)...but this is called a forum and i am foruming. :p
as i said, he took questions and said he expects to be challenged, and suggested they might have a novel argument to be considered.
your opinions are equally irrelevant, and i think you're overdue for your booster.
 
But an illegal isn’t a citizen, none of it should apply
According to our constitution (and court rulings), the child is. And all people in the US have the same constitutional rights, they are not limited to citizens. Illegal aliens do not enjoy all the rights, but most.
 
nice dodge, sparky.
of course they are (as are my opinions on cabinet picks etc)...but this is called a forum and i am foruming. :p
as i said, he took questions and said he expects to be challenged, and suggested they might have a novel argument to be considered.

It was the collective "you". It does not matter what one believes to be the reasoning behind an amendment. But that argument was made in 1898. Whatever the argument Trump believes there is to be made would need be quite novel. Not holding my breath.

your opinions are equally irrelevant, and i think you're overdue for your booster.

I never said your opinion was irrelevant. I was making an argument that this is settled case law, and your beliefs as to the reasoning behind the drafters of the amendment were irrelevant. And they are, as are mine, but you asked me anyway.

And I can see you are fresh out of any argument at all. Cute. :rolleyes:
 
It was the collective "you". It does not matter what one believes to be the reasoning behind an amendment. But that argument was made in 1898. Whatever the argument Trump believes there is to be made would need be quite novel. Not holding my breath.



I never said your opinion was irrelevant. I was making an argument that this is settled case law, and your beliefs as to the reasoning behind the drafters of the amendment were irrelevant. And they are, as are mine, but you asked me anyway.

And I can see you are fresh out of any argument at all. Cute. :rolleyes:
yeah, and you probably thought that roe v wade was settled.
/sorry if i misunderstood.
//the booster jab still stands.
 
maybe if the illegals continue with their hideous violet crimes it can be done. illegals are subject to immediate deportation unless the bogus asylum card gets played. i recall at one time the big liberal crying was sending the parents out and leaving the kids,the anchor babies,here "breaking up poor families". i can't say whether the anchor baby and asylum issues have been addressed at the amendment/SC level. if not,it needs to be. fuck the the illegals and their spawn. we have enough homegrown welfare rats and criminals.
 
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are you saying that the release is being actively "protested"? should be a surprise but not one. same as the huge protest yesterday in DC about the election. way more violent than 1/6. the game ain't won yet by a long sight.
no, i think there is just a crowd that wants to be "too close" to the doors, like a mob of journalists! 🤣
they should have just put up some velvet ropes and nobody would go past that.
 
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I just wanted to share my thoughts on the "it's not our war, it's their war" comment-

I've seen war and I couldn't agree anymore on that comment and I (at least personally) believe that our/other countries involvement makes their constituents feel 'good' and that they're 'helping' but with that said, I also believe that 'helping' also prolongs these conflicts and exponentially inflates the bodycounts & lives impacted by said conflicts not to mention the also exponentially increased duration of said wars.

Maybe it's not so simplistic as choosing the path of least resistance that bows down to the shortest possible outcome. I kind of get that too but I also feel that those nations that 'lend assistance' also fail to understand that they need to communicate to their constituents on how their involvement in the matter (and whatever the outcome may be) is to their benefit.

Maybe an unpopular opinion here but I'm going to stand by it- to be frank, and I don't mean to come across as cold hearted either, but if Country 'A' & Country 'B' want to blast each other into oblivion and we have no personal stakes or anything to gain from either outcome, then why put our tax dollars into said conflict when we can just sit back and let the chips fall where they will and take whatever lessons can be learned from it all and improve our own military readiness?

We're not operating in the 50-80's Cold War, we're not worried about the 'Domino Theory' anymore, there's only something like.. what 4 communist countries existing in the world and aside from China, they all suck a big fat one and aren't of much threat to any of the other... something like 200 countries in the world (I may be a little off in my math but I think I'm at least close).

So if we aren't fighting communism, and we aren't bankrolling countries we have a strategic interest in or protecting our existing military bases, then I struggle to see how it's "our" problem in 2025.
 
excellent. sorry to say IMHO that applies to VN,Iraq,Panama,Afganistan and our underhanded work in Libya,Ukraine,Syria,. i think you would say Korea,Kuwait and Grenada were justified as would be serious intervention in Somalia and Yemen to address piracy. i think that is sorta what your are saying. if so,must agree. WW1,WW2 are entirely different discussions and my views are very much in the minority there.

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Well with all the BS and shit that needs to get done .I do not quite get it why Trump is launching a bunch of get rich quick pyramid schemes to kick it all off, meme coins where 10 people own all of it then fleece the gullible idiots ,$TRUMP or $MELANIA token so what is next the kids tokens. Scratch that they are already out - $BARRON
 
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