• Having trouble using the site?

    Contact support

  • You Should Now Be Receiving Emails!

    The email issued mentioned earlier this week is now fixed! You may also have received previous emails that were meant to be sent over the last few days - apologies, this was a one time issue and shouldn't happen again!

Trump is back…the “Now What” thread

#1,201
OldSalty2 said:
Damn man, my opinion aside. ..but where does homeboy find a job for which he is "impossible to fire"?

Jesus...
Click to expand...
It does not say impossible to fire. It says cannot fire without cause. Government jobs are protected by federal law and have procedures built in for firing. It is not an at will position.

Apparently the Trump administration is invoking something that it thinks gets them around those protections, an executive order from when he was President the first term (Schedule F).

www.govexec.com

As the Trump administration gathers names of recent hires, some are being asked to justify their jobs

New federal workers are the easiest to fire and the administration is gathering information on their names, backgrounds, roles and performance.
www.govexec.com www.govexec.com

The collection of names comes as the Trump administration has publicly broadcast its intention to downsize the federal workforce, with the president vowing to eradicate the “cancer” within agencies. Trump has brought back Schedule F—now renamed Schedule Policy/Career—an initiative to strip an untold number of federal employees of their merit-based civil service protections and instead make them at-will workers who can be fired for political reasons. The administration this week made “delayed resignation” offers—which essentially equate to severance packages—to nearly every federal worker. Those offers suggested the administration will further seek layoffs, firings and agency eliminations.
Click to expand...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Phish and theLBC
#1,202
More:

Under federal law, the president can exempt positions from the civil service when "necessary" and "as conditions of good administration warrant."

Wednesday's lawsuit is narrower and seeks to force OPM to continue enforcing the Biden administration rule until it is repealed.

Trump first carved out the exemption in a 2020 executive order during his first administration, at the time calling it Schedule F. Democratic President Joe Biden rescinded the order in 2021, before any workers were reclassified.

The 2024 rule was intended as a bulwark against Trump's resurrection of Schedule F. The rule says workers who are involuntarily exempted from the civil service retain the legal protections they had already earned, and created a process for them to challenge their reclassification.
Click to expand...
 
#1,204
SRcUOdQZzMKc.jpeg
 
  • Angry
Reactions: Big Phish, gigamortis and 10ring'r
#1,212
Malum Prohibitum said:
It does not say impossible to fire. It says cannot fire without cause. Government jobs are protected by federal law and have procedures built in for firing. It is not an at will position.

Apparently the Trump administration is invoking something that it thinks gets them around those protections, an executive order from when he was President the first term (Schedule F).

www.govexec.com

As the Trump administration gathers names of recent hires, some are being asked to justify their jobs

New federal workers are the easiest to fire and the administration is gathering information on their names, backgrounds, roles and performance.
www.govexec.com www.govexec.com
Click to expand...
said it before. the fed civ serv act needs to be repealed. and as said elsewhere here,Clinton fired 100 fed attorneys with no comment from the lt.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Phish, gigamortis, 6/250/40 and 2 others
#1,219
theLBC said:
cHH7BwYrKGYT.jpeg
Click to expand...
That's like nearly all of sub-saharan Africa, except Uganda and a maybe a couple others, but even they have a history of such things. It's kind of their thing, they even do it to themselves between tribes, not just against "colonial" whites. Bet this is Elon putting a bug in his ear about it. Really not our problem.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Big Phish, gigamortis, 6/250/40 and 1 other person
#1,225
lariat said:
That's like nearly all of sub-saharan Africa, except Uganda and a maybe a couple others, but even they have a history of such things. It's kind of their thing, they even do it to themselves between tribes, not just against "colonial" whites. Bet this is Elon putting a bug in his ear about it. Really not our problem.
Click to expand...
If we give Foreign Aid to South Africa - then it is our problem. Easy fix is no more Foreign Aid - then we are not meddling in any foreign arena.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 10ring'r, Big Phish, Devildog and 4 others
#1,226
Lightning8 said:
If we give Foreign Aid to South Africa - then it is our problem. Easy fix is no more Foreign Aid - then we are not meddling in any foreign arena.
Click to expand...

Foreign Aid is a great way to hold leverage over smaller countries

Just like how NEA and NPR would be a great way to push rightwing propaganda if the Republicans had the balls to do it
 
#1,227
BCP said:
Foreign Aid is a great way to hold leverage over smaller countries

Just like how NEA and NPR would be a great way to push rightwing propaganda if the Republicans had the balls to do it
Click to expand...
right. but what "small countries" in ME,Asia,Africa,LA or Oceania do we want or need to control? F foreign aid we need to "aid" a lot of places in America.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 10ring'r, Big Phish, gigamortis and 1 other person
#1,228
BCP said:
Foreign Aid is a great way to hold leverage over smaller countries

Just like how NEA and NPR would be a great way to push rightwing propaganda if the Republicans had the balls to do it
Click to expand...
If we are indeed intent on reducing the budget deficit then cutting aid to these smaller countries in all its forms moves the needle in the right direction. Giving them money to act according to our moral standards within their borders does not.

I understand using money to get things done with foreign governments but there are higher priority needs at the moment. In lieu of simply sending money to corrupt politicians that will turn on us at the first opportunity we could establish trade agreements that both help their economies and over time create an economically captured state. What they do in their country is their own business, but trade agreements with provisions could be opportunistic enough to cause the change, and it would allow for trade alternatives to China for some things over time.
 
#1,230
  • Like
Reactions: crackerbrown, stevieb92, 6/250/40 and 5 others
#1,231
mosin46 said:
said it before. the fed civ serv act needs to be repealed. and as said elsewhere here,Clinton fired 100 fed attorneys with no comment from the lt.
Click to expand...
US Attorneys are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. They do not have civil service protections and can be fired at will by the President.

Clinton did not fire all "fed attorneys," but 93 of the 94 US attorneys. There is only one of those in each federal district. They have many Assistant US Attorneys working for them (federal prosecutors). They enforce federal law using the policy priorities of the President and are therefore routinely replaced. If Trump has not yet replaced all of them he will soon.

This is more routine than special.

www.tampabay.com

As attorney firings go, Clinton's weren't special

But a Justice Department talking point on a technicality has caused an uproar on the right.
www.tampabay.com www.tampabay.com
 
  • Like
Reactions: stevieb92
#1,248
theLBC said:
i dunno if it is gone but...

Click to expand...


"Staffers of the U.S. Agency for International Development were instructed to stay out of the agency’s Washington headquarters, and yellow police tape and officers blocked the agency’s lobby on Monday"

apnews.com

USAID headquarters in Washington are blocked after Musk says Trump agrees to close the aid agency

The developments come after Elon Musk said that he had spoken with President Donald Trump about the aid and development agency and “he agreed we should shut it down.”
apnews.com apnews.com

Sounds gone . . .

Email shut down, web site disappeared . . .
 
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: gigamortis, stevieb92, 6/250/40 and 5 others
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

LuckyDuck
Former endeavors that used to give joy and are fleeting now...
Replies
56
Views
2K
Ronws
Ronws
Topstrap
Topstraps Longrange Rimfire Challenge 2024 Match Information
Replies
0
Views
341
Topstrap
Topstrap
Topstrap
Some ammo accuracy sharing and a "betcha ain't seen one of these before"
Replies
9
Views
856
Topstrap
Topstrap
N
Terminus Action Review / Observations
Replies
90
Views
4K
Dolomite
D
taliv
Precision Rifle Gear Review: AIM FS-42 folding stock bag w/ AXSR
Replies
5
Views
453
taliv
taliv
Top Bottom
Back
Home
Forums
Merch
Alerts