Vortex Razor HD Gen III 6-36x56

I won a USPSA state championship with a Kimber - that doesn't mean it's the best tool for the job, nor that better tools have come out since then.

I won the American Handgun World Shootoff with a Glock in unclassified division, then later in B stock with a STI 40, but I also could have won it with a Kimber. Because you can't miss fast enough to win. Which brings it back to "practicality".

A .2 mil reticle is a .2 mil reticle and the .05 mil reticle thickness can help you make the holds out better when down on mid magnification - as I found out.

Disagreement is fine and people use what they prefer.
I've actually helped design reticles presently in use in currently available rifle scopes, one of which is also a favorite .2 mil. I've also won matches with it.

But the H reticles do work and work well for holdovers/offs. I'm proof of it.
 
Your sarcasm proves jack-shit. 1 vs. 100,000 other non-Horus reticle scopes being used in those comps worldwide.

However, amidst all your pointless drivel and egomania, you did make my point for me in your last sentence… If you know what you’re doing, you can win with just about anything…Ask Carlos Hathcock, or Chuck Mawhinny.

You still don’t need the H59. But for some folks, it’s just like Imaginationland, where “If you believe it to be real, then It’s real…” Whatever subconscious reinforcement you need that helps you win, helps you win.

Imagineland, that's like you ever winning anything except scope deutsche of SH.
 
Reticle is nothing but a ruler. That's it. Stop over complicating things. Unless you are under fire or shooting a match where speed is of essence, dial.

The VAST majority of people would be better off with a simple reticle like the JTAC or PR3 to make spotting trace and your shot easier and make it easier to focus on the aiming point.
 
I just dial the solution. However, I do like how Strelok Pro will true the reticle and give you a target to look at. AB Quantum can show you a reticle but I am not seeing what does for a person. As was well said, you don't really need a reticle vision to just shoot. If elevation is 2 MOA, then dial or hold 2 MOA, for example.

Edited to add, I do like clear reticles and have used them to range a target in thick woods. The laser reflects off a leave at 30 yards. But I know the average width of a tree in AO and do the math.
 
Yup. I joined quite a while ago. Then life got in the way and I didn't sboot for almost 8 years. I took a long range precision shooting class this summer and got back into. Started reading this forum again A lot has changed, I'm glad y'all know everything.
Yep, 10 years ago, a reticle tree meant something entirely different. 4 mils in 2014 is actually 5.2 mils now. Inflation and what not.
 
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Yup. I joined quite a while ago. Then life got in the way and I didn't sboot for almost 8 years. I took a long range precision shooting class this summer and got back into. Started reading this forum again A lot has changed, I'm glad y'all know everything.
I wouldn't worry about it. Not that you are. deathbeforedishwater is like that with everyone. It's hard to remember a post where he was being civil and downright insulting. That's just his way. I get a giggle out of it.
 
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After a bit of reading and learning, I'm leaning hard toward a purchase of one of these G3s. Happy to see the bugs are worked out.

One final question; I see some folks mention returning their G3s for the "elevation turret lock delete". I think I'd like to do this also. Is this requst the same as a warranty claim, or does it involve a service charge?

Thanks in advance
 
I’d recommend you get it and try it first. A lot of people did it as some of the earlier ones would drop easily but that doesn’t happen now so it’s not a bad option to have. You can always do it later.
 
Yeah and you can use an o-ring also but not really needed anymore. They stay up just like the Gen II which no one complained about.
 
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Fella didn’t ask you guys if he needed it…

It’s a warranty service so far as I know. I’ve not heard anyone say they paid for it.

No he didn’t but sometimes people think they need something and don’t realize they don’t. There has been changes since these came out and people were using spacers and having the locking mechanism disabled. Just don’t want him doing something he thinks he needs and then finding out he didn’t.
 
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After a bit of reading and learning, I'm leaning hard toward a purchase of one of these G3s. Happy to see the bugs are worked out.

One final question; I see some folks mention returning their G3s for the "elevation turret lock delete". I think I'd like to do this also. Is this requst the same as a warranty claim, or does it involve a service charge?

Thanks in advance

Vortex does the turret mod no charge. Definitely try yours first though, I have heard they are a lot better now. I really like the scope and I think you will be happy if you decide to get one.