Hell, I’ve read the entire manual multiple times and barely know how to set the wind for a single target!!
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Each target has to be manual, which sucks if you are using these as a stand alone solver. The binos by themselves only calculate wind relative to DOF.
If you're using with a kestrel or garmin device, it will use true wind direction, but don't use the vector's target card feature (there's a glitch with all devices, vector problem) but if you use the connected device for target card, all is good.
They seriously need to correct this. Hopefully it's just a firmware update. Can't see why not. Every single AB device has this feature, Garmin took quite a while to get it right on the 901, but it's finally there.
And it's not only multiple target engagements. I'd like to have a wind direction and speed dialed in (say in a hunting situation) when a target of opertunity shows up, hit the range and get the wind call instantly.
I appreciate the info. That’s a kick in the nuts as I was hoping I could use these during matches instead of my PLRF05, Kestrel, and separate binos. Maybe they will fix it in the future. I guess for now, the Vectors will be used for hunting only.
I thought I read somewhere when vortex did the Fury ab binos, they used a wind capture with thr bino compass that then vectored the target azimuth VS the winds known azimuth? This process was patented, I'd read or heard by vortex. Maybe this is why sig, Leica, nor vectronix have used the simple method.
I wanted to eliminate the Kestrel/Garmin 901 for the Snake River match next week. But it looks like that won't happen since I still need to use them to build a target card.
There needs to be a confirmation that the chicken dance was successful other than the chicken just not showing up again.
Nothing in this expensive shooting hobby is simple. Unfortunately.
It's been a while since I read their patent, but I believe it was about pointing the binos into the wind direction and clicking one button to capture wind direction. Kestrel did that first, but if the patent only pertains to binos/optics you should still have a workaround by manually entering the wind azimuth. It would be easy to do with the vectors since it gives a live azimuth.
It's really hard to beat the vectors and the 901 combo for a target card in a NRL style match. The connection is solid and you'll have the card on your wrist.
For PRS, I just use these to verify and spot. I don't even bother connecting to kestrel. Even though you could quickly fill out the kestrel target card with them.
For stand alone, or their own target card they're not ready yet. No true wind direction, target card doesn't work, e-dope doesn't work. It's a nice intuitive app, but it's about useless.
With the later firmware (180?) I now get DOF to my Garmin Tactix7 ; Enter the true wind speed and compass direction before the stage, and now, as you range targets across the array, the DOF is used to calculate the cross wind component and adjust the wind holds.
As far as I know this isn't possible using the internal target card, but I find that way too cumbersome for on the clock field matches. I know someone else who uses Leicas and the Kestrel the same way, he just runs the kestrel on the clock for the target card.
As far as I know this isn't possible using the internal target card, but I find that way too cumbersome for on the clock field matches. I know someone else who uses Leicas and the Kestrel the same way, he just runs the kestrel on the clock for the target card.
My replacement set came in today. Second defective unit. This one the left button on the keypad is inoperable. Works about 1 out of every 20 presses. Focus knob still has a ton of play before engaging, maybe more than the first unit. Auto brightness doesn't flicker though. I am either unlucky or these things have lots of issues. At a loss really for something in this price point.
Sounds like it may be time for you to move on from this one. Thankfully I haven’t had any of your problems.
That's a bummer. I agree with Patrick, it might be time to move on and try the new 2nd Gen Sig Kilos. Sorry to hear about your repeated troubles, fingers crossed I don't experience the same.
It’s prolly like anything else, it was probably left this way intentionally, why come out with the best way right out the gate, they will come up with a firmware update in a bit and then sell it and market it…. No different than any other industry, like trucks, remember when they came out with the “3rd door” you know damn well some new guy in a meeting was like why wouldn’t we just put a 4th door on right away cause that’s where this is headed, and then all the people in the meeting laughed at how stupid he was…
Got to use mine more at a train up day yesterday, really like em, was zapping a 1788 IPSC with no issues everytime, but does anyone else think the lense caps are shit?? Ordered the FOUR. HUNDRED. F’N. DOLLAR lense caps this morning.. that’s annoying
There is a non ARD version for $200. Everything to do with these things is expensive as hell. I love them, but damn are they spendy.
Non-ARD lens caps Tenebraex is just as proud of their name as Vectronix.
With the amount of useless shit that people 3D print these days and sell, surely someone can make a version of these for $20.There is a non ARD version for $200. Everything to do with these things is expensive as hell. I love them, but damn are they spendy.
Non-ARD lens caps Tenebraex is just as proud of their name as Vectronix.
Received my enhancers last week from @Sendero_Man. Didn’t realize they were there as I had them sent to my work. Was only able to look through them around my neighborhood, but can’t wait to get to the range. Thanks Scott for the constant updates. I know it’s been tough. Deal with @Sendero_Man with confidence if you are looking. Great communication!
Got the next replacement 10x42's today. This should have been the first set. Focus knob, buttons, HUD all good. Slight touch of focus knob play but 100% different and better than the first two.
Good explanation with how obvious the defects were. I'd like to hope that and not QC. I will say Europtic hopped on my problem children twice and quickly, which was much appreciated.
Damn! I usually place a heavy weight of some sort in my tripod sling in hopes of keeping it held down on high wind days. We've had the windiest spring in recent memory and it has been a concern for myself as well during recent range sessions.
So I use an AG tripod caddy. And my tripod actually didn’t have any issues staying planted on the ground in the wind despite that- I’m gonna attribute it to my heavy-fill shmedium keeping it from lift off.
I place my binos on a flatline ops scum bag that sits on a Rhytec pro plate. I was good about putting them onto the mesh net or in one of the zips whenever I stepped away from the tripod.
Yea I have a light fill bag I use on a tacplate for when they aren't clipped in and that light bag gives me concern for similar reasons. I really need to get a flat heavy fill rear bag for that use and keep the light fill bag in my hunting pack. I've been clipping the binos in lately with the Area419 Arca plate. .
I asked. I’m hoping they do a one time courtesy kind of deal.
Vortex type of warranty sounds so good right now…
Ordered! Thanks for the idea.
I also grabbed a set of the tenebraex covers off MH. Will update with results
Random public service announcement: for those of you interested in using your Vectors with ATAK, I got in touch with Vectronix to ask them if it was possible. They responded that there is a plugin, but it's only available through official channels. However, they are working on a "light" version. No idea how this will differ from the full version as far as capabilities and functionality, nor did they give me a time frame, but at least it's in work.
Based on how I have used laser rangefinders in conjunction with BaseMap before, I believe you would be placing the point while in the BaseMap app and not from within the VECSS app. With the premium versions of BaseMap, there is a remote marker option under the tools section that what you would open to place a remote point within the BaseMap app. I expect this is similar to how things work with OnX, though I have not used it. Google maps is integrated into the VECSS application so you can actually place a point using Google maps without ever leaving the VECSS app as it is essentially using Google maps as a plugin. I don't belive this sort of functionality is present with the other mapping applications.
Picked up the 10x SMD last week.
Out comparing laser ranging capabilities today of the Sig Kilo 10k (gen1) and the Vector X. Both were tripod mounted in RRS Cinch clamps.
From a purely laser ranging perspective, the Sig smashed the Vector X on large metal farm sheds and farm houses out to just shy of 4,000 meters. The Vector X tapped out fairly early, with the farthest shed being 2396 meters.
Daylight, slightly overcast, 8-20mph winds (so vibrating the tripods slightly). The VectorX was in long range mode.
The Sig' may have a more sensitive laser, while the VectorX UI is a vast improvement. The glass on the Sig G1 is extremely blue to my eyes, with the tint. Glass on the VectorX is clear and crisp.
Not entirely sold on the shape of the lase button on the Vector, it's fairly random, with the lines leading into the button, it doesn't feel overly obvious (to me personally), at this point.
The mapping feature is nice, however when exporting the maps, the image is extremely zoomed out, and lacks a lot of topographical detail, something I haven't figured out just yet. Hints?
Out comparing laser ranging capabilities today of the Sig Kilo 10k (gen1) and the Vector X. Both were tripod mounted in RRS Cinch clamps.
From a purely laser ranging perspective, the Sig smashed the Vector X on large metal farm sheds and farm houses out to just shy of 4,000 meters. The Vector X tapped out fairly early, with the farthest shed being 2396 meters.
Daylight, slightly overcast, 8-20mph winds (so vibrating the tripods slightly). The VectorX was in long range mode.
The Sig' may have a more sensitive laser, while the VectorX UI is a vast improvement. The glass on the Sig G1 is extremely blue to my eyes, with the tint. Glass on the VectorX is clear and crisp.
Not entirely sold on the shape of the lase button on the Vector, it's fairly random, with the lines leading into the button, it doesn't feel overly obvious (to me personally), at this point.
The mapping feature is nice, however when exporting the maps, the image is extremely zoomed out, and lacks a lot of topographical detail, something I haven't figured out just yet. Hints?
