Re: 100yard group?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Towert7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> what group size are people getting out at 100 yards with 22LR setups and calm wind?
... getting shots within 2.6inches using a bipod. I have a feeling this is a pretty poor grouping size....
Thanks</div></div>
of course it depends on the rifle, the ammo, and the shooter. nothing wrong with 2.6" if that's all that combo could do. if your 2.6" group is is repeatable time after time, then it's an excellent group for what you are using as it is consistant / relative to what you have either equipment or in skills set.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Towert7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I was using bulk Federal (525 pack) and a CZ452 thin barrel. </div></div>
IMO, 2.6" with bulk 525 ammo and a sporter barrel isn't poor, switch to a standard velocity or match ammo. this should help pull in the groups more, probably by at least .75" tighter. second, adjust the trigger to be lighter and crisper, if it's a non adjustable, consider picking up an adjustable trigger for it. the ease of the squeeze will probably knock off at least another .25 of human error.
doing those two should bring you into a 1.5"ish area out of the gate. the CZ452 is a pretty darn good rifle, but may be as good as it's going to get with that sporter barrel, on average.
wasn't too long ago that 2.6" was awesome, but nowadays with better manufacturing processes of rifles, ammos, and more emphasis on using rimfires as a "serious precision platform" at 100+ yards, some folks are getting groups unheard of or not thought possible before.
although it's nice to strive for, i wouldn't expect under or at 1" at 100 yards with average equipment <span style="font-weight: bold">consistantly</span>, as you'll probably frustrate the heck out of yourself. in reality 1.25" to 2" would probably be viewed as good group using average / stock equipment, whereas the 40x / anschutz thoroughbreds should be at least 1.25" and under, <span style="font-weight: bold">consistantly</span>.
the "long range competition" sticky up top of the forum has several years worth of 100 yard group photos to browse to get a feel of what's working / average.
this thread will probably turn into another pissing match along the way on what to expect, but remember shooting a sub MOA group twice out of twenty times does not constitute a sub MOA rifle, and an "all day long" rifle doesn't describe what it printed the day before or after.
