What bullet and velocity from the 16.5Left to right, shorties fuckin rock. Would never go back to anything longer than 18-20” outside of a hunting rifle role
26” 300 norma
18” 300 norma
16.5” 6.5 saum
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What bullet and velocity from the 16.5Left to right, shorties fuckin rock. Would never go back to anything longer than 18-20” outside of a hunting rifle role
26” 300 norma
18” 300 norma
16.5” 6.5 saum
It definitely barks. I absolutely love it though. Just need to try a can on it but worried about pressures at the muzzle. It’s obviously louder than my 26” 300 norma was but I think part of why people think shorties are so much louder is just because you’re closer to the muzzleMy 26” 300 Norma with an MPA 4 port brake is loud enough to wake the dead. How is that 18” one to shoot?
I ended up selling that rig because no matter what powders I tried it was literally the exact same performance wise as my 18” 6.5cm. I can’t exactly remember what velocities it shot but I want to say 2680 (give or take) with a 143 eldxWhat bullet and velocity from the 16.5
Your 18” 6.5cm pushes a 143 to damn near 2700fps?It definitely barks. I absolutely love it though. Just need to try a can on it but worried about pressures at the muzzle. It’s obviously louder than my 26” 300 norma was but I think part of why people think shorties are so much louder is just because you’re closer to the muzzle
I ended up selling that rig because no matter what powders I tried it was literally the exact same performance wise as my 18” 6.5cm. I can’t exactly remember what velocities it shot but I want to say 2680 (give or take) with a 143 eldx
I’d have to double check to be positive. If I’m not mistaken hornady precision hunter factory loads shows 2850 on the box for a 24” test barrel. I’m handling though and I’m pretty damn sure I was getting 2680 out of my 18” 6.5Your 18” 6.5cm pushes a 143 to damn near 2700fps?
The box is 2700 fps for a 24” barrel.I’d have to double check to be positive. If I’m not mistaken hornady precision hunter factory loads shows 2850 on the box for a 24” test barrel. I’m handling though and I’m pretty damn sure I was getting 2680 out of my 18” 6.5
I just went and looked. According to my buddies chrono at the time I recorded 2661, 2656, 2677, 2645, 2688 with hornady brass, 143 eldx, and 42.5gr of h4350. And when I took that average and plugged it into my ballistic calculator it was damn near spot on. Factory loads shot 2540 out of the same gun. Whether you believe me or not that’s what I recorded. I’m not trying to lie to nobody lolThe box is 2700 fps for a 24” barrel.
You probably won’t believe me when I say my 18” 300 Norma shoots a 225eldm at 2880 give or take either lol. Unknown munitions was there original owners of it too and they did the load developmentThe box is 2700 fps for a 24” barrel.
It doesn't take much believing if you've played around with an 18" 6.5 CM. It's not hard to get those velocities with RL16 or Staball, not to mention RL26.I just went and looked. According to my buddies chrono at the time I recorded 2661, 2656, 2677, 2645, 2688 with hornady brass, 143 eldx, and 42.5gr of h4350. And when I took that average and plugged it into my ballistic calculator it was damn near spot on. Factory loads shot 2540 out of the same gun. Whether you believe me or not that’s what I recorded. I’m not trying to lie to nobody lol
Was this with h1000? My 18” 7prc is doing 2620 with 180 hybrids and 67gr of h1000 in ADG brass. I haven’t worked up to pressure but I’m not sure another 100 fps is going to be in the cards. I was thinking about switching to Retumbo or N570180 hybrids I haven’t really pushed but was somewhat close to a load at 2740.
Also looking at notes 67g h1000, with 180 hybrids in adg brass have me 2650Was this with h1000? My 18” 7prc is doing 2620 with 180 hybrids and 67gr of h1000 in ADG brass. I haven’t worked up to pressure but I’m not sure another 100 fps is going to be in the cards. I was thinking about switching to Retumbo or N570
Accuracy has been great. Velocity has just been lacking. It’s “enough” for what I’m looking to do but who doesn’t love a little extra. The Berger load data shows N570 as having the best velocity but their data is also based on a 26” barrel and (to my knowledge) not verified by them anywaysNo rl26. N570 will likely be too slow in this case, but retumbo would work nicely..I’ve since stopped shooting hybrids and am shooting 169 hammers with h1000 at an easy 2810. I got 180 hybrids to 2800 with rl26 but started getting pretty heavy bolt lift at that point. Accuracy with h1000 has been much better but top end loads were 2700 with that combo
Yeah I believe they use quick load..case fill was probably 110% lol. Retumbo might buy ya a tiny bit more velocity but not much. N565 might be worth a go. Or rl23/26. I’ve settled on the 169 hammer hunters and h1000..this is a dedicated backpack rifle for me. If I want to shoot 180 bergers I’ll bring my 7 Saum, 22” barrel and shooting a light load of rl23 has em at 2750 and an absolute tack driver.Accuracy has been great. Velocity has just been lacking. It’s “enough” for what I’m looking to do but who doesn’t love a little extra. The Berger load data shows N570 as having the best velocity but their data is also based on a 26” barrel and (to my knowledge) not verified by them anyways
Just out of curiosity why 7prc and not 28nosler?Was this with h1000? My 18” 7prc is doing 2620 with 180 hybrids and 67gr of h1000 in ADG brass. I haven’t worked up to pressure but I’m not sure another 100 fps is going to be in the cards. I was thinking about switching to Retumbo or N570
Didn’t want to burn an extra 10 grains of powder. 7prc seemed more efficient in a Tikka without crowding the powder column. The goal I set out for was 700 yards on mule deer and axis sized game, and 7prc fit the billJust out of curiosity why 7prc and not 28nosler?
Ive shot my 16" 223 at one, got a tac class trophy so its perfectly capable in the handicap class!Anyone running their shorty’s at PRS matches? Just curious what the feedback is. Does the shorter handling helps maneuverability noticeably? Recoil increased much?
How slick is that BAT Bublebee action?
I built a more budget geared Rem700 using a Bugholes Bartlein bbl in 6.5 Creedmoor in a used Rem LTR police stock. Love it. But Ive begun to think the ideal rifle for me, if I could only have one, would be a similar rig but with a nicer action, maybe a BAT Bumblebee or Zermatt TL3 and a 16” bbl in 308 or 6.5 Creed (maybe even 223) with fast enough twist to handle sub-sonics.
It's makes a big difference to do that, that white lithium grease bat sends with their actions is the shit.Like butter dude. I have BATs, Defiance, and Stiller actions. The BATs put them all to shame. It’s not even close. I shoot them all suppressed as well. With the BATs you have to pay attention to your bolt lube a little more…keep the lugs lubed. Tolerances are tight.
I have a 20” 6.5 PRC with new Bartlein 7.5 twist barrel and get 2,948 with 58.3 N560 and a 140 elite hunter. Lapua new brass, Fed 210M.What kinda speeds are guys getting out of 18" 6.5 PRCs with a 140 class bullet? Love my 18" 6.5 Creed and have a few lopads that get me 2650 with 140 ELDMs (42.5 N160 or 42.0 H4350) but also have a magnum bolt and am kinda curious how much more speed I could get out of the same length PRC.
That's a sweet setup. I've never seen a 16.5lb rifle described as handy though.Current 18" 6.5 Creed. Nice and handy, 16.5lbs with the bipod. 140s going 2650.View attachment 8249063
Haha, that's fair. I meant handy for a precision rifle. With the folder it fits in a nice compact case. I also really like 16lbs rifles, it's enough weight to make them quite easy to shoot well, spot trace, etc.That's a sweet setup. I've never seen a 16.5lb rifle described as handy though.
What kinda speeds are guys getting out of 18" 6.5 PRCs with a 140 class bullet? Love my 18" 6.5 Creed and have a few lopads that get me 2650 with 140 ELDMs (42.5 N160 or 42.0 H4350) but also have a magnum bolt and am kinda curious how much more speed I could get out of the same length PRC.
What are all the build componentsFinally got one down to 18” pardon the shitty pics, it just arrived today.
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Kelbly NanookWhat are all the build components
This is factory precision hunter from my 18” 6.5 Creedmoor
A thumperI spend a lot of time in a blind hunting hogs, so it was time for a dedicated rig.
Bighorn Origin
Shilen 16" 300 SAUM
XLR Evo Gen II
PA 1-6
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I've seems some bad Atlas knockoffs but that's got to be the worst.My new budget build
18" Criterion, Lite Varmint
Savage Action
MDT XRS Stock
Arken EP5
Vortex medium rings
Atlast bipod.
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is it not an atlas? it was a gift from a friend; he didn't know exactly where he got it from, but thought it was an atlas... so i've just run with it.I've seems some bad Atlas knockoffs but that's got to be the worst.
also, edited my postI've seems some bad Atlas knockoffs but that's got to be the worst.