Looking for "just a little" more horsepower, in a .224, so I can use what I have in bullets, and powder. Barrel eater? Known as accurate? Haven't seen much talk about it, here. The specs in my manual look pretty good.
.22-250? Any one shoot it?
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I've got a Savage 12BVSS with a 1/12 twist so I'm not shooting the heavies in it. 22-250 are known for accuracy as is Savage. My rifle lives up to that with 1/4" groups pretty common with 40 and 50 gr
V-max's over Varget and speeds around 4100/40gr 3900/50gr. Just reamed my chamber out to AI specs and working out loads now, but looking like I can bumb standard numbers up about 200fps
V-max's over Varget and speeds around 4100/40gr 3900/50gr. Just reamed my chamber out to AI specs and working out loads now, but looking like I can bumb standard numbers up about 200fps
I owned a Remington 700 BDL Heavy Varminter in 22-250 for many years and it consistently shot groups in the 0.3 moa range sometimes better. When I gave up hunting I sold it to a friend who had been after me to sell it for years. It's a great cartridge and I wish I had never old the rifle.
I've had a couple 22-250's in Remington 700. The one I have now has a 24 inch barrel. It may be the most accurate rifle I have. I use Hornady 53 grain, Match, Hollow pts. on prairie dogs and coyotes. It's very explosive. A great cartridge for varmits....
Thanks for that. Just "decided I need another gun". I just got a browning Varmint special in 223, but as I was doing my research, I kept seeing them in 22-250. This piqued my interest, and was looking at some nice numbers, in my manual. So I asked the question. Maybe there'll be room for another caliber on the shelf.
I have a winchester m70 heavy barrel varmint I got back in '91 for varmint shooting. It has the hs stock and other than a little trigger work and rebedding the action in the stock to my liking it is pretty much a stock rifle. Its not very picky to load for. Likes 50gr vmax or ballistic tips, sierra 52gr hpbt, hornady 53 gr fb, speer 52 gr hp (the ones with the biiiig hollowpoint) with about 36.5 gr of h380 and a cci br primer. Hits the critters like the hammer of gawd to this day!
I got 1971 Rem700BDL 22-250 in 2001 for $180.
The throat was shot out.
I got another barrel.
The 22-250 factory barrels with slow twist running hot can be matched by 223 rifles running hot.
But custom 22-250 barrels with fast twist can do velocities with heavy bullets that 223 rifles cannot match.
How did all this silliness happen?
1) The bullets might spin apart, so the factory used slow twist 22-250 barrels.
2) SAAMI registered max average pressures for the 22-250 are 10k psi higher than 223, but the capabilities are the other way around.
The throat was shot out.
I got another barrel.
The 22-250 factory barrels with slow twist running hot can be matched by 223 rifles running hot.
But custom 22-250 barrels with fast twist can do velocities with heavy bullets that 223 rifles cannot match.
How did all this silliness happen?
1) The bullets might spin apart, so the factory used slow twist 22-250 barrels.
2) SAAMI registered max average pressures for the 22-250 are 10k psi higher than 223, but the capabilities are the other way around.
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'05 Savage Model 12 VLP in 22-250 here. 26" 1:12" SS fluted and it's a gorgeous rifle that shot very well right out of the box.
I will probably rebarrel it with a 1:8" 223 AI when the time comes.
Most 22-250s come with 1:14s, or 1:12s and if you want to shoot the longer range bullets, commensurate with the cartridge's case capacity, you're shit out of luck.
Sure, you can buy 1:8" 22-250 barrels, but most factory rifles don't come with a fast twist.
If you're going to be P-Doggin' with it solely, sure, but it's a barrel burner; however, it's an inherently accurate cartridge.
Chris
I will probably rebarrel it with a 1:8" 223 AI when the time comes.
Most 22-250s come with 1:14s, or 1:12s and if you want to shoot the longer range bullets, commensurate with the cartridge's case capacity, you're shit out of luck.
Sure, you can buy 1:8" 22-250 barrels, but most factory rifles don't come with a fast twist.
If you're going to be P-Doggin' with it solely, sure, but it's a barrel burner; however, it's an inherently accurate cartridge.
Chris
I love the 22-250 I have now.
Back in 68 I was still in high scool. I saved all my money from bucking hay bails, and bought a Remington 22-250 BDL with a 22 inch barrel and Redfield scope. I was thinking about getting a 222 magnum back then, but settled on the 22-250. I was young and dumb, and new to reloading. The factory ammo seemed to shoot okay in it. I'd had quite a bit of fun shooting rock chucks, gophers, prairie dogs, and the occaisional fox and coyote with it. Again that was with factory ammo.....
I can't recall the load that I came up with way back then, but it shot terrible. (about a four or five inch group at a hundred yards) I didn't know much about load development back then. I figured it must be the gun. One guy said the barrel might be copper fouled. So I bought some solvent for that.... I should have tried a different load. At any rate I sold the gun, thinking there was something wrong with it. I wish I had had these forums to seek advice, back then! I'm sure I could have got it to shoot well....
The Remington 22-250 I own now is super accurate....
Back in 68 I was still in high scool. I saved all my money from bucking hay bails, and bought a Remington 22-250 BDL with a 22 inch barrel and Redfield scope. I was thinking about getting a 222 magnum back then, but settled on the 22-250. I was young and dumb, and new to reloading. The factory ammo seemed to shoot okay in it. I'd had quite a bit of fun shooting rock chucks, gophers, prairie dogs, and the occaisional fox and coyote with it. Again that was with factory ammo.....
I can't recall the load that I came up with way back then, but it shot terrible. (about a four or five inch group at a hundred yards) I didn't know much about load development back then. I figured it must be the gun. One guy said the barrel might be copper fouled. So I bought some solvent for that.... I should have tried a different load. At any rate I sold the gun, thinking there was something wrong with it. I wish I had had these forums to seek advice, back then! I'm sure I could have got it to shoot well....
The Remington 22-250 I own now is super accurate....
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I've had my share, was down to 1, a Weatherby Vanguard, circa 1985, what a POS, 1 1/2" guarantee if I recall. Got rid of all my reloading shit, waiting to build off the Weatherby. Then 2 Saturdays ago, a friend stops by, a Sako rifle, M 85 SS laminated varmint model at a local gun store. 1880.00 rifle, new, marked 799.99, well it's mine. Think it's going to be a shooter, pressure tested it last week, settling on 35.3 gr of Norma 203B, 3500fps, with 55gr Sierra BK's, and 55gr Nosler BT's.
While testing I just zeroed on a 5" plate at 200 yards and chrono'd. Never missed throughout the test range, when I had what I needed, sent 4 hotter ones at a 2moa plate at500 yards, all hit in around the same place on left side of the plate. it was actually pretty windy that day also, just picked 6moa up dope to get on the plate.
I'm with Steve1 in my history also, back in mid 80's I bought my first 22-250, tried to reload for the thing, it was a hell of a lot easier to just buy cases of 8.00 box Federal Premium ammo to shoot.
You'll love the 22-250, and personally don't think anyone should enter a prairie dog town without one, unless of coarse you have a 220 swift!
While testing I just zeroed on a 5" plate at 200 yards and chrono'd. Never missed throughout the test range, when I had what I needed, sent 4 hotter ones at a 2moa plate at500 yards, all hit in around the same place on left side of the plate. it was actually pretty windy that day also, just picked 6moa up dope to get on the plate.
I'm with Steve1 in my history also, back in mid 80's I bought my first 22-250, tried to reload for the thing, it was a hell of a lot easier to just buy cases of 8.00 box Federal Premium ammo to shoot.
You'll love the 22-250, and personally don't think anyone should enter a prairie dog town without one, unless of coarse you have a 220 swift!
I have a Remington VS that was rebarreled and put in a new stock last year after about 4,000 rounds. It was the most accurate rifle I have. It shot the Winchester white box better than any other ammo. The new barrel seems to like heavier bullets than the 45 grain bullets that the WWB uses. I am hoping to find some ammo or start loading for it soon as I am missing out on some good groundhog shooting right now.
4000 Rounds of 22-250! Wow!
Great round and not picky to load for. I have heard 1500 round barrel life was the max, but varmint shooters can keep going for many more rounds. I toyed with the idea if a '250 twisted to shoot 90 grain bullets. Some guys on the Hide do it and love chucking those long splinters. Great BC and the ctg is very accurate.
Most writers say the .222 Rem dominated the benchrest arena before the PPC came along. Where I live the '250 did yeoman duty for groundhogs and benchresting.
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Accuracy went from sub moa to minute of basketball in about 100 rounds. GAP did the re barrel and said I should have lost the accuracy a long time prior. The throat erosion was measured in inches.
Just bought a Savage Model 12 VLPDBM in 22-250 (1 in 12 twist). The gun and caliber is a tack driver. It is a joy to shoot. I found my best reload at 39.5 grains H380; 55gr Nosler BT Varmint, CCI primers, and Nosler brass. I'm shooting sub 0.5 MOA at 100 - 300 yards
Took my Rem 700 out today to try out XBR 8208 and 60 gr Berger's, hard to tell with 5 shot groups that
are .5 at the most, like I posted above, love this caliber.
are .5 at the most, like I posted above, love this caliber.
just shot some 40gr nosler bt for the first time loaded with 38g of varget. 210m primer. factory rem with a 1 in 14 twist and a timney trigger. shot really well. chorno at 4000 fps. barrel warms up fast.
Stockdoc , I have tried the H380 at 38gr. and my vel. is 3719 fps avg. My Lee Manual lists 38grs. as min. What is your velocity, and where did you get info.? I have a SMK 52gr, Lapua brass, cci br2 primers, God only knows barrel 1-12 twist. H4350 is giving 3535fps avg. at 39grs same everything else. I'm trying to save H4350 for the big guns. The barrel is Melonited, I load to mag length. Old loads before re-barrel are way hot!! (55grsgkhpbt 3800+ fps H4895 34.5grs) Cases need annealed down to the base. The bolt clicks at 38grs H380. I am looking for help as I don't want to use up my supply of H4350 or V550.
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Stranded-I had tried 38 gr of h380 but it was way hot in my gun. 36.5 was a safe load under all the weather extremes I shoot under. It gave me 3765ish fps through my 26" factory stainless tube. I got those velocities by shooting over my chrony 2 chronograph.
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
Stockdoc, You have helped me a lot. Thank you. I was concerned about the min charge listings. Just by accident I was talking to a fellow employee from out of town about this today and He said the same thing. Confirmation builds confidence.
Love my 250. I was shooting 40 grain blitzkings over 39.5 of varget for 4177fps. I went AI and now shooting 55's with 39.1 of XBR for 3950ish fps
i send 40gn vmax's right at 4,000fps out of mine. consistently shoots .5 to .75in at 100 doing that. i have had great results on coyotes out to about 400yds with that load. the wind is pretty noticeable after 300ish.
I have a Remington 700 with a 26" heavy barrel i bought off the used rack at Cabelas. It came in a Bell and Carlson Medalist stock. I didn't realize it at the time, but it had a Rifle Basix trigger at about 1.5 lbs. I absolutely love it. It is far more accurate than I could ever hope to shoot it. Ballistics are very good to out to about 500 yards. I'm shooting 55gr Sierra Blitzkings over Reloader 15 and it does very well. Can't remember the powder charge or the velocity, but its pretty well right out of the Sierra manual. I would trade my 308 before I'd trade my 22-250 anyday.
We have one built on a BAT action with a fast twist barrel and shoot 75gr Amaxs. Shot it out past 1200 yards. Shoots flat and does ok in the wind. Wood chucks inside of 500 seams like it is almost cheating. Shot P. Dogs out past 725.
The other is a Remington Varmint.We run 55 gr Nosler Ballistic tips in it.
The other is a Remington Varmint.We run 55 gr Nosler Ballistic tips in it.
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