.22 br
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Bugholes got 500-600 barrels in the past 2 days. Site updated this morning if anyone is looking for barrels.. I got a few more
I like 28" competition contour, or a 26" 1.250 straight. I have a 28" no taper and it's a bit much.
Ya they are the bartlein mtu I'm gonna have him spin both of em up at 28". What about sizing dies for BRA? I have alot of the SAC bushings so I'm thinking about just getting the SAC sizing and seating dies
Have had good luck with wilson and harrels. No experience with SAC dies other than their universal seating dies, they're pretty bomb.
I'm a huge LE Wilson fan. I also have SAC dies but for the money, the quality and smoothness of sizing and seating is top of the line. LE Wilson FL bushing dies size like better and man I love their Micrometer inline seaters. I 100% switched all calibers to them.
L.E. Wilson Bushing Type Full Length Sizer Die 22 BR (Bench Rest)
The L.E. Wilson Bushing Type Full Length Sizing Die. This die will allow you to size the case neck to your desired neck tension along with sizing down...
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L.E. Wilson SS Chamber Type Micrometer Seater Die 22 BR (Bench Rest)
The L.E. Wilson Stainless Steel Chamber Type Micrometer Seater Die features a micrometer seater. Precision adjustment in .001" increments of...
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What's everyone's recommendation for gunsmiths in the PNW? and what cost do you usually see to spin up a barrel in 22BRA?
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Benchmark Barrels might also chamber someone else's barrel, but not sure.
I'd expect to pay from $450-550 for a chamber and muzzle thread job on a blank; some outfits might also charge you to remove/install a barrel, although the two smiths I linked would almost certainly install for free because they'll be verifying headspace as a final check (if you provide them your action).
Also, one thing to think about in the future is having any blanks shipped straight to your smith, saves that middle-man shipping cost.
Ya I think a standard rate is around 450ish. So they guy doing my work I didn't realize until today but so I've paid for the bat action the barrel and trigger and I thought the price he gave me included everything but I found out today the labor is gonna be 975.......
Well so I'm getting a new bat machine hammerhead action, bartlein 29 inch mtu to be finished at 28 inch chambered in 22bra and muzzle threaded at 3/4x24
Well so I'm getting a new bat machine hammerhead action, bartlein 29 inch mtu to be finished at 28 inch chambered in 22bra and muzzle threaded at 3/4
I could run it in GRT
Interesting. Those charge weights seem really low, hard to believe one would get adequate case fill (I don't think N540 is a particularly high-volume powder). VV's site has the 224 Valkyrie at a max load of 23.8gr N540 under a 90gr Berger VLD, and the 6mmBR with a max load of 30.4gr N540 under a 105gr Scenar. It's been my (limited) experience so far that 22BR powder charges are much closer to 6mmBR when running at the heavy end of bullet selection for the cartridges; for example, my Varget load that I worked up started to pressure out at 28.2gr with an 88gr ELDM, less than 10% below the common charge of ~30-31gr for 6BR running heavies.
Those velocities are also really slow. My instinct is that either N540's not really suitable for the case, or something is off about that data; I suspect it's the latter. But perhaps I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
the latest sierra book is similar with varget. lists a max of 24.8 @ 2600
here's an older edition: http://www.6mmbr.com/f/sierra_22br_data.pdf
22 should take slower powders than 6, ceteris paribus.
Your guess is accurate. I ended up testing different charge weights up to 30.5gr. I'll check my log later and post the results. That book data I'd guess is just being extremely extremely safe. Unfortunately it seems like a lot of book data is so understated these days that it's worthless and instead of having professional guidance on loads we are left having to figure it out on our own.
Anyone ever shot n150 with heavies in a 22 BR or 22 BRA? How did it work and what charge weights worked for you?
Hey so I did reach out to Manson and jgs about getting a reamer made, jgs said 10-12 weeks and Manson said 4-6 months.. any chance I could rent your 22bra Manson reamer from you?
It’s just a straight 22BR reamer, not the Ackley chamber, but if you still want it then sure! GAP has it right now while my barrel waits in their queue though, so lead time is probably 6-8 weeks
O I thought you had an ackley one. What would you guys say is the best specs for a bra reamer with the alpha bra brass?It’s just a straight 22BR reamer, not the Ackley chamber, but if you still want it then sure! GAP has it right now while my barrel waits in their queue though, so lead time is probably 6-8 weeks
Please start a new thread for your 22BRA build/questions
This is a 22BR load thread. We are getting pages deep with non 22BR data.
Thank you
This was for a 22 BRA. I wouldn't recommend pushing it that hard but here's the data I recorded. 26" PVA Osprey barrel with 90gr SMK's and CCI 450's in Lapua brass.
29.5gr 3048.6 fps
29.6 3067.2
29.7 3075.5
29.8 3090
29.9 3095.7
30.0 3117
30.1 3127.7
30.2 3150.8
30.3 3160
30.4 3167 (cratering in the primers starting.)
I stopped at 30.4. The "30.5" I mentioned earlier was inaccurate, I didn't remember i stopped at 30.4gr until I just checked my logs.
I wasn't seeing obvious pressure signs but I personally wouldn't push the load that hard again above 30.0gr. I'm happy to stay at 3000 to 3050 FPS.
Hey guys so I'm looking at seating dies.. I really wanna do the le wilson with an arbor press but they said they are too backlogged to take any custom orders. I was wondering though couldn't I get the 6bra micrometer die and a 22 cal seating stem?
You probably could, but that’s not what I’d recommend. A big benefit of modern seating dies is controlling the orientation of the bullet as it’s seated, and you give that up with your plan. On the other hand, if that’s keeping you from running the cartridge, I say go for it and order the correct thing also. You won’t struggle to sell a 6BR seater later.
I use the same exact rcbs matchmaster seating die for my 65 Saum, 65 prc, 25 prc and 6saum. Uses the same 6.5mm seating stem whole time, seats all bullets very straight. I'd totally get a 6bra seater and install a vld style 22cal stem, that's as close to custom match fitment as he can get.
Not with LE Wilson Micrometer Inline seating dies, no. I actually called Wilson with this very question as I already owned their 6BR inline micrometer seater. They told me no, you cannot simply put their 22cal stem in their 6BR die, it wont fit. So I just bought a 22BR inline seating die..
Now, Im not saying you cant use a 6br seating die to seat 22BR bullets, from others posting, that sounds like it works but I never tested it. I use all caliber specific LE Wilson Micrometer inline seating dies with excellent results.
I had similar experiences with Redding non-inline dies. I thought I could drop a 22 cal stem in a 6 Dasher die. I quickly found out the O.D. of the stems were different so that didn't work.
If a 6mm seating stem is deep enough for VLD bullets with long tips it may work for 22 cal projectiles. I ended up trying a Forester 6mm Dasher die I had and found the stem was deep enough to seat 22 cal 90gr SMKs without mashing up the tip of the bullets.
Hey can anybody that has a 22bra chamber and a sac comparator check their headspace measurement for me? I'm just curious and making sure I am not bumping the shoulder when nicking down brass
Question, is a .253 neck reamer going to be large enough for brass resized from alpha 6br? I ordered the brass but unfortunately it won’t be here before I leave. Was hoping to ship a few dummy rounds with my barrel to check chambered and make sure it won’t have any issues.
I do have lapua 6br brass if the neck thickness is the same between alpha and lapua.
Thanks for any help.
I do have lapua 6br brass if the neck thickness is the same between alpha and lapua.
Thanks for any help.
I know for a fact .253 you will have to neck turn. I have a .253 reamer. I’ve shot some unturned brass to fire form and it still easily hold a bullet after firing.
Ya I just measured some alpha bra brass and it's 13.5 to maybe 14 thickness. With a 253 neck you would have roughly 1 thou each side
