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Any signs of excessive pressure?
Average 2935
ES 29 (61 with outliers)
SD 6 (12 with outliers)
not awful considering
neck turning?? factor brass that bad?That's kind of what I thought. Those two in the 2970s were so far out there that I'm wondering what was different. Since I haven't neck turned yet, I'm thinking that neck tension could be a culprit. I was struck by the number that fell in the high 2920s to mid 2930s. About 2/3 were in that range.
neck turning?? factor brass that bad?
I don't know what if any brass prep you did but one thing I always do with Hornady brass is straighten the necks and chamfer in and out. The way Hornady trims the brass to length it rolls out a lip on the case mouth. I've seen it cause a slight interference fit in some chambers. That could well be the reason for your two out liars. Neck tension alone would not cause that much increase in velocity. It's in our head that neck tension causes major issues but it's been my experience that it's over rated. The act of seating the bullet acts like an expander mandrel and pretty much makes all the neck tension the same. Brass hardness affects it more. That's why I don't anneal. They're all the same.That's kind of what I thought. Those two in the 2970s were so far out there that I'm wondering what was different. Since I haven't neck turned yet, I'm thinking that neck tension could be a culprit. I was struck by the number that fell in the high 2920s to mid 2930s. About 2/3 were in that range.
YepCan I use the Accuracy International Long Action AXAICS 338 CIP chassis and magazines for a Remington Long Action 300 PRC build? I would assume the longer 300 Win Mag CIP magazines would work in the chassis.
I don't know what if any brass prep you did but one thing I always do with Hornady brass is straighten the necks and chamfer in and out. The way Hornady trims the brass to length it rolls out a lip on the case mouth. I've seen it cause a slight interference fit in some chambers. That could well be the reason for your two out liars.
BIG CAVEAT ON WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY: I'm not using the most precise measuring equipment, but it's not bad either (RCBS analog ball micrometer).
I just pulled a random piece of new, untouched Hornady brass - literally, I reached into the box and just grabbed one. The neck thickness varied between roughly ,013 and .016.
What did you use as a measuring device? Please don’t say a caliper.
Looks like Dane spun me up a barrel... Now I need to find brass, bullets and dies
GunBroker. They have some right now in stock. If you don't have GunBroker, call the shop that's listing it for sale and buy direct.If you find some brass, please let us know. I'm kicking myself for not ordering more when it first came out.
GunBroker. They have some right now in stock. If you don't have GunBroker, call the shop that's listing it for sale and buy direct.
I have the SAAMI reamer as well as one with a shorter throat for reloaders.I'm planing to build 300 PRC on Mausingfield action and carbon fiber proof barrel. I just don't know what chassis or stock to pick. Keep in mind it will be long range hunting sometimes target shooting, i want to keep rifle around 10 to 12 LBS i'm concerned about magazine length also loading 212 or 210gr bullets.
please help any advice is much appreciated. thank you
i like the Fact that chassis is 3.8LBS and it will take long magazines. Thank you for Input.I'm not sure how the weight works for you, but the KRG Bravo doesn't seem too heavy and will take CIP mags. it's what I'll be putting my LRI Mausingfield Hunter 300PRC in when it arrives next week or so.
Tweak/flair the front of the lips to give the round a more nose up orientation.First setback for me on my newly rechambered rifle:
I bought the Accurate Mag bottom metal and magazines to house the longer PRC round, but at the seating depth I'm currently using (puts overall length right at max of 3.7"), I am unable to chamber a round out of the magazine. Where the lips that hold the rounds in terminate, there is not enough room to allow the round to enter the chamber at a shallow enough angle - so it binds up. The only thing I can think of is to cut back the lips to allow the bullet to rise up enough early enough to guide the rest of the round in at a proper angle.
You need to order the TL3 with the CIP cut.Will a Bighorn TL3 long action, feed from the 3.850 size bottom metal/magazines or will it need modification?
Thanks jwknutson17. Do you run the Accurate DBM on your rifles? I can't remember what you said pages back.
After one of those royally crappy work days yesterday, all was made better when Marc at Spartan Precision emailed me to tell me my rifle was ready to go. I picked it up, did a measurement for seating depth, and loaded up my first ever 50 rounds of 300 PRC (attached). I'm heading to the range tomorrow to break in the barrel and take a few pics. I'll post rifle stats and results tomorrow afternoon.
Cool. I didn't realize there were that many options for the CIP bottom metal for the 300s. One last question: what mags do you like for this cartridge.
Thank you again. I think I'm all set now to start collecting parts.I'm using accurate and MDT mags. I had a few of the MDTs that didn't seem to feed the best. I sent them back for replacement. Replacements look like the picture attached they have been working well. 3 out of the first 6 I ordered didn't have the MDT stamped on the back of the mag and had a different follower and lighter spring tension. The replacements all look like the ones in the photo and have been working flawless. I guess there was a slight difference in the stamp of the body and for whatever reason the newer ones work much better. The older ones would feed the first three rounds and not the last too. New ones work great. Same with the Accurate mags.
UPDATE:
I had been asked earlier whether I saw any signs of overpressure. I just found one casing where there is an extractor mark - I missed it when inspecting the casings pre-cleaning. I'm guessing it was one of those that jumped up ~40 fps. I found it because when I was priming, the primer didn't sit snug.
I've just cleaned, sized to 2 thousandths back, trimmed, and loaded 32 rounds. Why 32? Because I ran out of H1000, and my order to replenish is held up at the retailer for some reason. I found that Brownells has it, so I ordered a few pounds from them that will hopefully arrive this week. What is it with getting powder these days?
I also have 9 additional rounds that I also neck turned and annealed. I wanted 10, but one of those cases was the overpressure one - which of course I found after I'd neck turned and annealed.
I had planned to go to the range tomorrow to test better prepared brass vs my last numbers vs neck turned/annealed, but I might get rained out. As soon as I have more data, I'll post.
UPDATE:
I had been asked earlier whether I saw any signs of overpressure. I just found one casing where there is an extractor mark - I missed it when inspecting the casings pre-cleaning. I'm guessing it was one of those that jumped up ~40 fps. I found it because when I was priming, the primer didn't sit snug.
I've just cleaned, sized to 2 thousandths back, trimmed, and loaded 32 rounds. Why 32? Because I ran out of H1000, and my order to replenish is held up at the retailer for some reason. I found that Brownells has it, so I ordered a few pounds from them that will hopefully arrive this week. What is it with getting powder these days?
I also have 9 additional rounds that I also neck turned and annealed. I wanted 10, but one of those cases was the overpressure one - which of course I found after I'd neck turned and annealed.
I had planned to go to the range tomorrow to test better prepared brass vs my last numbers vs neck turned/annealed, but I might get rained out. As soon as I have more data, I'll post.
What's the load you're working up?
Well today I started my 300PRC journey by simply starting a spread sheet, laying out all the pieces I will need/want...and putting a price to it. Geez...this journey is going to be painful. Guess I better go work some more over time.