.308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

[The King]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

I have the 16". However, my temperature was 90 and the altitude was 9800ASL. I have the SF brake on mine.

Muzzle velocity was interpolated from measured drops at 500m, 750m, 1km. Ballistics program was Ballistic by Zdziarski. Weather data from a Kestrel.

My RCBS chrono died that day - hence no chrono measurement. It said the FPS was 433.

Also, from the range trip yesterday (70F), I show that the Hornady SuperPerformance 178's run in the OBR on the "Suppressed" setting. Accuracy was similar to FGMM. Wind was too high to shoot a group with the target stands I brought. It hit almost 40mph - no wonder there was considerable horizontal stringing. LOL.

 

[DP425]

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Oh yeah, my vote- whatever you like most. If you're having trouble, sit down, make a list for each of all the qualities you can think of. Make another list for things you do not like. Take each list, give each fault or plus a rating of 1-10 on how important it is (10 being most important). Add up the total on each list then subtract the negative list from the positive. Get the one with the highest number.

Other people's opinions should only take you so far.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just add Frank to the growing list of LT vs. ?? threads. mark larue is always the common denominator. </div></div>

YA THINK?

 

[Rob01]

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Voltage I sent you a PM.

 

[BiggerStick47]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just add Frank to the growing list of LT vs. ?? threads. mark larue is always the common denominator. </div></div>

YA THINK? </div></div>

You seem to be quite popular over there still, lol.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just add Frank to the growing list of LT vs. ?? threads. mark larue is always the common denominator. </div></div>

YA THINK? </div></div>

You seem to be quite popular over there still, lol. </div></div>

I know it, no matter how many lies about me that ML tells I just laugh and think its funny.

 

[DP425]

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Outsy, if you don't mind how exactly did you enter into all of this children's shit?

 

[sdkidaho]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The POF Group buy will be happening, there is a change of space happening and he needs ATF approval for the new business location, then the buy will be on.

He has them in stock, in his hands, no waiting once this moves forward he will post it... I think he has something like 30 different rifles from POF ready to roll.

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Still interested in this. I know, I know... I'm detracting from the show here. Some of us newbies don't even have an AR to be able to argue that it's the best! I'm working on that though...

 

[Voltage]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.M14</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the 16". However, my temperature was 90 and the altitude was 9800ASL. I have the SF brake on mine.

Muzzle velocity was interpolated from measured drops at 500m, 750m, 1km. Ballistics program was Ballistic by Zdziarski. Weather data from a Kestrel.

My RCBS chrono died that day - hence no chrono measurement. It said the FPS was 433.

Also, from the range trip yesterday (70F), I show that the Hornady SuperPerformance 178's run in the OBR on the "Suppressed" setting. Accuracy was similar to FGMM. Wind was too high to shoot a group with the target stands I brought. It hit almost 40mph - no wonder there was considerable horizontal stringing. LOL. </div></div>

Just put a 2 in front of that 433 and thats where I thought the 16" would be!

 

[Sniper Monkey]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

I find this all interesting. Learning a lot. Some good, some bad

Any recommendations on barrel length if I were to buy the OBR? 16 vs. 18? Does it really make that much of a difference in velocity, weight, balance, etc???? Thanks.

 

[The King]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

I was quite surprised at the velocity as well.

 

[DP425]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sniper Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find this all interesting. Learning a lot. Some good, some bad

Any recommendations on barrel length if I were to buy the OBR? 16 vs. 18? Does it really make that much of a difference in velocity, weight, balance, etc???? Thanks. </div></div>

I'm running 20" and I'm happy with it. 18" would be a bit more "handy" though. Depends what you want to do with it I suppose. 16" while still effective I personally wouldn't be that interested in outside of a patrol rifle role. I imagine a 16" barrel and CRT stock with the LT riser would do very well for a deer gun- tough to get much more compact than that in a .308. But if you're concerned about hunting and getting maximum humane lethal range... 16" may not be your answer.

I've not fired anything OBR over a chrono, so I can't comment on velocity other than to say the number's a buddy's DPMS LR-308 put out with 165gr GameKing were respectable enough, and going by manufacture recommended minimum velocity, could handle deer out to about 430m.

If target shooting is your thing, I know the 16" has shown good performance at 1k. But of course the 18 or 20 would do a little better in terms of downrange external ballistics.

 

[Voltage]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

I just got the 18" because I'm indecisive.

 

[BiggerStick47]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voltage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got the 18" because I'm indecisive. </div></div>

18" should be good to a mile and a half, but if you think you'll be shooting over 2 miles, go with the 20".

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voltage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got the 18" because I'm indecisive. </div></div>

18" should be good to a mile and a half, but if you think you'll be shooting over 2 miles, go with the 20". </div></div>

I have to agree if the 16 incher is good to a mile, that should mean the 18 is good to a mile and a half, and the 20 good to 2 miles.

 

[bm11]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sniper Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find this all interesting. Learning a lot. Some good, some bad

Any recommendations on barrel length if I were to buy the OBR? 16 vs. 18? Does it really make that much of a difference in velocity, weight, balance, etc???? Thanks. </div></div>Depends on what you want it for. I personally wanted something in a very compact, handy package that still had capability to 800 or so yards. I went with the 16" and use the CTR stock with the riser and POD. Retracted, it's a very compact package, I measured it but since have forgotten the OAL.

In any case, it comes back to "mission requirements." I sold a 24" heavy barreled AR-10 in .260 to get this rifle. The .260 was certainly more capable of reaching out there and touching someone, but it was a very very heavy rifle that almost HAS to be shot prone. The OBR 16" is compact and light enough to fill the roll I was looking for, and is still a very accurate, capable rifle.

Not much love for it around here, but I think that has much more to do with Mark Larue than the OBR itself standing on it's own merits, to be fair.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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bm, you say that the Overpriced Bullshit Rifle is compact with the stock collapsed, do you use a cheek riser on the CTR? If you do, how do you charge the weapon with the stock collapsed?

 

[bm11]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bm, you say that the Overpriced Bullshit Rifle is compact with the stock collapsed, do you use a cheek riser on the CTR? If you do, how do you charge the weapon with the stock collapsed? </div></div> I do use the cheek riser. I don't shoot it with the stock collapsed all the way, I'm 6'2. It makes a nice handy size for transport/etc, but about the shortest I shoot it is out 2 positions, which is enough to actuate the charging handle using the 1/2" riser (it has a taper towards the front.) I'll probably give the RISR (reciprocating riser) a try when they come out with it. Sounds cheesy, but I'll give it a go.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bm, you say that the Overpriced Bullshit Rifle is compact with the stock collapsed, do you use a cheek riser on the CTR? If you do, how do you charge the weapon with the stock collapsed? </div></div> I do use the cheek riser. I don't shoot it with the stock collapsed all the way, I'm 6'2. It makes a nice handy size for transport/etc, but about the shortest I shoot it is out 2 positions, which is enough to actuate the charging handle using the 1/2" riser (it has a taper towards the front.) I'll probably give the RISR (reciprocating riser) a try when they come out with it. Sounds cheesy, but I'll give it a go. </div></div>

Let us know how that works when the rifle gets dropped in some mud, will it still move?

 

[Prairie Dog Dundee]

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Some of you are conceding that the OBR is the most accurate rifle. This is not my photo. It was posted on the long LMT thread by BP1911. This was fired with a SS barreled LMT. I'd say the jury is still out.
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[AK-Bandit]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bm, you say that the Overpriced Bullshit Rifle is compact with the stock collapsed, do you use a cheek riser on the CTR? If you do, how do you charge the weapon with the stock collapsed? </div></div>

I also have a CTR but I run low rings on my OBR so no need for the cheek riser. I'm only running an NXS 2.5-10x32mm scope, so this setup probably wouldnt work for those with larger scopes. I was hesitant about the lower rings at first because I thought it might be too low, but the taller rail on the OBR makes my setup very comfortable to shoot.
Your acronym needs some work

Here's another group from this past weekend. Using Hornady 168gr TAP.

5 shots 100yds. Not the best, but then again, I'm not the best shot.

 

[Lowlight]

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What are you aiming at because it certainly isn't hitting a target, not really even near one... I suppose it is a good thing I stopped the group shot policy, because random packs of rounds really don;t mean a thing in my opinion.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you aiming at because it certainly isn't hitting a target, not really even near one... I suppose it is a good thing I stopped the group shot policy, because random packs of rounds really don;t mean a thing in my opinion. </div></div>

Come on Frank cut the man some slack, he is only shooting a 2.5x10, he did atleast hit the paper. The entire paper was his target.

 

[AK-Bandit]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you aiming at because it certainly isn't hitting a target, not really even near one... I suppose it is a good thing I stopped the group shot policy, because random packs of rounds really don;t mean a thing in my opinion. </div></div>

That was just me goofing around with an FBI silhouette target. Now that I look at that picture, the target is actually upside down. I put a "shoot-n-see" cover-up dot on the head of the target but it got knocked off after the second or third shot. Those things dont stick well when it's cold out.

 

[AK-Bandit]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Come on Frank cut the man some slack, he is only shooting a 2.5x10, he did atleast hit the paper. The entire paper was his target. </div></div>

Does Frank pay you to suck his dick or do you do it for free? Because we might be able to work something out for when I take trips down to "Jawja".
The "only a 2.5-10x32mm" in my post, was meant to give a reference to the smaller objective of my scope and the low rings I'm using. But I can see how you might miss that with Lowlight's jizz in your face.

You can talk shit about the OBR and LaRue all you want. I couldnt give two shits. I'm not brand loyal until a company pays me to be. But dont try to degrade me for no reason other than your craving for Frank's man batter.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AK-Bandit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you aiming at because it certainly isn't hitting a target, not really even near one... I suppose it is a good thing I stopped the group shot policy, because random packs of rounds really don;t mean a thing in my opinion. </div></div>

That was just me goofing around with an FBI silhouette target. Now that I look at that picture, the target is actually upside down. I put a "shoot-n-see" cover-up dot on the head of the target but it got knocked off after the second or third shot. Those things dont stick well when it's cold out.</div></div>

Gotcha, so that happened to the other image as well, and we need not infer anything by the strategically placed boxes and magazines... just find it interesting how they seem to be a bit out in space, and not necessarily on-target. Don't much see the paper roughed up either by the glue of the shoot n c target... maybe, and this is just a suggestion, consider putting the target on inside the house and then deliberately shooting it... would make life easier.

They are fine groups though...

 

[fastford]

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I cant take it anymore! I am digging the rest of the larue stuff out of my safe and selling it...........

 

[Prairie Dog Dundee]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AK-Bandit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Come on Frank cut the man some slack, he is only shooting a 2.5x10, he did atleast hit the paper. The entire paper was his target. </div></div>

Does Frank pay you to suck his dick or do you do it for free? Because we might be able to work something out for when I take trips down to "Jawja".
The "only a 2.5-10x32mm" in my post, was meant to give a reference to the smaller objective of my scope and the low rings I'm using. But I can see how you might miss that with Lowlight's jizz in your face.

You can talk shit about the OBR and LaRue all you want. I couldnt give two shits. I'm not brand loyal until a company pays me to be. But dont try to degrade me for no reason other than your craving for Frank's man batter.
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Now that gentleman is CLASS......disgustingly low class but class none the less.

 

[jamescaan]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I cant take it anymore! I am digging the rest of the larue stuff out of my safe and selling it........... </div></div>

Pm sent.

 

[DP425]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bm, you say that the Overpriced Bullshit Rifle is compact with the stock collapsed, do you use a cheek riser on the CTR? If you do, how do you charge the weapon with the stock collapsed? </div></div>

 

[DP425]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bm, you say that the Overpriced Bullshit Rifle is compact with the stock collapsed, do you use a cheek riser on the CTR? If you do, how do you charge the weapon with the stock collapsed? </div></div> I do use the cheek riser. I don't shoot it with the stock collapsed all the way, I'm 6'2. It makes a nice handy size for transport/etc, but about the shortest I shoot it is out 2 positions, which is enough to actuate the charging handle using the 1/2" riser (it has a taper towards the front.) I'll probably give the RISR (reciprocating riser) a try when they come out with it. Sounds cheesy, but I'll give it a go. </div></div>

Let us know how that works when the rifle gets dropped in some mud, will it still move? </div></div>


How many of these guys are really going to be dropping their rifle in the mud? Maybe a valid concern for SOME, but I doubt that's an issue with most. I've never dropped ANY of my weapons in the mud. But I could see if you were to drop it in the mud... very very nasty mud... that it may not function. But that's speculation since I've never seen one in person.

I think your judgement is clouded by your hatred for all things LT.

 

[animalmother85]

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I really like Congo, but I think Rad Russian has his number...

 

[BCP]

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That barfcom thread reminds me why I never go there, ever.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">generally well respected businessmen</div></div>

Marky-Mark is not generally well respected, at least not online. He throws too many temper tantrums. I've seen him do some good things for 2A & his products are nice, but until he learns to contain himself online they will always be overshadowed by his personality.

 

[DP425]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That barfcom thread reminds me why I never go there, ever.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">generally well respected businessmen</div></div>

Marky-Mark is not generally well respected, at least not online. He throws too many temper tantrums. I've seen him do some good things for 2A & his products are nice, but until he learns to contain himself online they will always be overshadowed by his personality. </div></div>


My point was, both are respected IN their own fields- you'd have to be delirious to say they aren't (setting aside internet BS of course). The behavior on-line of both hasn't been up to par with what you'd expect from such figures. Yes, one may show more of a tendency to go off the deep end are resort to unprofessional antics, but as most of our parents told us- two wrongs don't make a right. One person acting a fool isn't an excuse for the other to do the same.

I have about 30 posts over there, almost exclusively for the LT industry section to get some answers on mounts and my OBR before it shipped. I believed the LT section was a bit less the "typical" AR15.com BS... but the thread over there and the number of ignorant responses to my post go a long ways to proving my initial impressions wrong. Although the responses since I posted my comment about acting professionally have not been entirely void of ignorance, it does go a LONG way to show the difference between the Hide and ar15.com.

Four times I made VERY clear I was attacking no one and I still get accused of ML bashing by some of the blind half-wit fan boys that have no concept of what it means to conduct yourself professionally, even when faced with very unprofessional antics... I'll be avoiding that site to the best of my abilities from now on.

 

[Voltage]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prairie Dog Dundee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some of you are conceding that the OBR is the most accurate rifle. This is not my photo. It was posted on the long LMT thread by BP1911. This was fired with a SS barreled LMT. I'd say the jury is still out.
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Sorry, not in the same league as my OBR. The one on top look 1 moa at best.

 

[Voltage]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voltage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got the 18" because I'm indecisive. </div></div>

18" should be good to a mile and a half, but if you think you'll be shooting over 2 miles, go with the 20". </div></div>

I know your trying to be funny but why are you quoting me? I never said anything in regard to effective range.

 

[poison123]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voltage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prairie Dog Dundee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some of you are conceding that the OBR is the most accurate rifle. This is not my photo. It was posted on the long LMT thread by BP1911. This was fired with a SS barreled LMT. I'd say the jury is still out.
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Sorry, not in the same league as my OBR. The one on top look 1 moa at best. </div></div>

Which is funny since LT sent out OBRs with basically 1 moa test targets....

 

[Voltage]

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The funny part is that every owner I have heard from has said that the test target is an understatement.

 

[CST]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

This thread is getting juvenile now....I'll piss on all of you with my Noveske! lol

 

[Prairie Dog Dundee]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voltage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prairie Dog Dundee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some of you are conceding that the OBR is the most accurate rifle. This is not my photo. It was posted on the long LMT thread by BP1911. This was fired with a SS barreled LMT. I'd say the jury is still out.
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Sorry, not in the same league as my OBR. The one on top look 1 moa at best. </div></div>

Sorry but no sale. Jury is still out. We have one sample rifle of each type. LMT center target shows 1/4" five shot. I'd say with the very small sample of shooters and rifles we have seen that they are in the same class accuracy-wise as is the POF. Personally I don't care if time proves one more accurate than the others as I'm not a bullseye shooter and any accuracy under 1/2 moa is academic rather than practical in my view. I have the chrome lined LMT and it surpasses my needs regarding accuracy and the barrel change feature is the future of development in a battle rife caliber chambered AR.

 

[BCP]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voltage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sorry, not in the same league as my OBR.</div></div>

Then post some targets as well as what kind of ammunition it likes best. I'm interested in seeing them.

 

[JerkeeJoe]

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Holy Christ this thread went downhill fast.

Who gives a fuck about LaRue "fanboys?" The ML fanboys are at arfcom and the lowlight fanboys are here. Talk shit about ML there and get bitched out. Talk shit about lowlight here and get bitched out. Pick your poison.

The best part about this thread is the guys talking shit about the drama at arfcom. HAVE YOU NOT READ THIS THREAD?? What the fuck do you think is going on here? The hypocrisy runs deep here.

 

[CST]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

I think everyone is way too super sensitive about their guns.
+++1 on Jerkeejoe

I think everyones had a situation where they can get a lucky 3 shot group measureing sub 1\4....Like Frank says...you need to be able to repeat that group to substantiate the accuracy of said load or gun.

So to put up one lucky small group and says thats an awesome gun is full of shit. The next thing to point out is that no matter how good the gun is, its the idiot behind it shooting it. so if he cant put out submin groups to save his life..it reflects on him and not the gun. So you can fairly judge the whole brand because of a couple unfair opinions.

The biggest thing between all the guns is the features..you want a monorail?trigger type? quick change barrel? mag type? weight? mission specific build etc... pick the one you want and just buy it and shut up.


Everyone is proud of their purchase. Leave it at that. Had the same BS happen with all the Tac Ops rifles from years ago.

Noveske, OBR, POF, REPR, SASS, GAP, LMT etc...all are good weapon systems...you cant go wrong with any of these guns. Bottom line is that any of the systems have great customer service and a nice gun can be bought at any budget

 

[LRB45]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

Honestly I would be damn happy with either of those rifles! I've got a 14.5" LMT 5.56 carbine and it is a quality piece. It sports a LaRue handguard along with other LaRue products, and they are top notch also.

I know it was not too long ago over at ARFCOM that everyday there seemed to be a bitch session on LMT products. I've never had any trouble with mine.

If you can hit what you aim at with any rifle, I'm sure the target won't know what rifle brand shot it.

 

[BiggerStick47]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

I bet Mark could bottle his nut sweat and sell it as after-shave on Arfcom.

 

[paulo_santos]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bet Mark could bottle his nut sweat and sell it as after-shave on Arfcom. </div></div>

LMAO. This is so wrong, but it is so funny and true. Take it from experience. Nothing good ever comes from getting involved in a Larue vs (fill in the blank with company or person). Let Mark be Mark and move along.

 

[Prairie Dog Dundee]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bet Mark could bottle his nut sweat and sell it as after-shave on Arfcom. </div></div>

Begs the question of them being old enough to shave.

 

[BiggerStick47]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bet Mark could bottle his nut sweat and sell it as after-shave on Arfcom. </div></div>

LMAO. This is so wrong, but it is so funny and true. Take it from experience. Nothing good ever comes from getting involved in a Larue vs (fill in the blank with company or person). Let Mark be Mark and move along. </div></div>

Um, me and Mark are old friends, lol.

 

[paulo_santos]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BiggerStick47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bet Mark could bottle his nut sweat and sell it as after-shave on Arfcom. </div></div>

LMAO. This is so wrong, but it is so funny and true. Take it from experience. Nothing good ever comes from getting involved in a Larue vs (fill in the blank with company or person). Let Mark be Mark and move along. </div></div>

Um, me and Mark are old friends, lol. </div></div>

LOL. Me too.

 

[Patriot Prepper]

Re: .308 Rifle Opinions - LMT vs. Larue

This is an intelligent post.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CST</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think everyone is way too super sensitive about their guns.
+++1 on Jerkeejoe

I think everyones had a situation where they can get a lucky 3 shot group measureing sub 1\4....Like Frank says...you need to be able to repeat that group to substantiate the accuracy of said load or gun.

So to put up one lucky small group and says thats an awesome gun is full of shit. The next thing to point out is that no matter how good the gun is, its the idiot behind it shooting it. so if he cant put out submin groups to save his life..it reflects on him and not the gun. So you can fairly judge the whole brand because of a couple unfair opinions.

The biggest thing between all the guns is the features..you want a monorail?trigger type? quick change barrel? mag type? weight? mission specific build etc... pick the one you want and just buy it and shut up.


Everyone is proud of their purchase. Leave it at that. Had the same BS happen with all the Tac Ops rifles from years ago.

Noveske, OBR, POF, REPR, SASS, GAP, LMT etc...all are good weapon systems...you cant go wrong with any of these guns. Bottom line is that any of the systems have great customer service and a nice gun can be bought at any budget </div></div>