Re: .308win ammo for Elk
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeffbird</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would I take a Texas heart shot? Question is obviously written by someone who has never hunted deer or elk in thick places. </div></div>
Really? What is the habitat like where I hunt?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would I take a Texas heart shot? Question is obviously written by someone who has never hunted deer or elk in thick places. BUT just for grins. here's the setting. You're on a sneak through the black timber shadowing a 7X7 you saw at first light heading into his bedding area. You jump him out of a deadfall and he's heading straight away. Up comes your Merkel SR 9.3x62 stoked with 250 gr TSXs and carrying a 1.2-4 Trijicon with the big amber post. You have three shots quick available and #1 goes in under the asshole, through 30 pounds of full paunch, takes out all the heart plumbing and exits through the neck. He makes two more bounds and piles up. That's why... I like to eat Elk not talk about the 500 yard shots or the ones "I seen through my Swaro spotting scope"
Also did it many times on Whitetail with an 1100 12 bore and deer slugs when I lived back east.
Dead is dead, it really doesn't matter how the bullet gets into the heart & lungs.</div></div>
Actually, you are the ONLY person I have EVER heard proudly proclaim that they intentionally shoot animals in the ass. Seems to be a less than optimal shot placement to deliver an immediately incapacitating shot, and it spreads shit and bacteria all through the wound cavity.
A shot through the neck to the spine, or even a broadside shot behind the shoulder into the heart, lungs or spine, will avoid filling the meat full of shit. If you like to eat shit, well, you have unique taste preferences. Me, I eat deer meat almost every single day of the year, but I prefer to have mine without additives.
Also, in the scenario you outlined, did you take any time to observe the animal and consider whether it is a mature animal, or he just had a big rack? Is that a factor for consideration? If you stomp through his bedding area will he come back to that bedding area? Is that important to consider?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: waveone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Harold,
While I might approve somewhat of your choice for bullets, I will say in the same breath your choice of shot placement isn't worth a flat damn.
In fact, aside from the shock of your acceptance and apparent common place for this unethical shot, I'm appalled. Ethics in this sport is just as important as abiding the law. Furthermore I don't know of any Texan worth his salt that would take that kind of shot let alone be accepting of it.
Of all people I am the least that would blast someone about many choices they make. However, this is wrong and potentially cruel on a number of fronts.</div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would I take a Texas heart shot? Question is obviously written by someone who has never hunted deer or elk in thick places. BUT just for grins. here's the setting. You're on a sneak through the black timber shadowing a 7X7 you saw at first light heading into his bedding area. You jump him out of a deadfall and he's heading straight away. Up comes your Merkel SR 9.3x62 stoked with 250 gr TSXs and carrying a 1.2-4 Trijicon with the big amber post. You have three shots quick available and #1 goes in under the asshole, through 30 pounds of full paunch, takes out all the heart plumbing and exits through the neck. He makes two more bounds and piles up.</div></div>
LOL holy fucking horseshit batman...
OK where to start. If at first light you could tell he was a 7X7 why waste the time to let him get into the black timber. Just so you can see if you could "play him a little". If "at first light" you were close enough to count 14 tines. You should have taken that broadside shot. Or just jumped on his fucking back and slit his throat.
Number 2, You make absolutely no sense, are you shadowing his movements or was he already there and you jumped him?
Number 3 you have three shot but only took 1 shot, up the ass. I guess the other 2 were broad side shots but hell you love to eat shit.
Number 4 you shot him under the asshole. Well basically you shot him in the nuts.
Number 5 Why in the fuck would you go into his bedding area??? An if you knew it was his bedding area why weren't you already there waiting???
Number 6 Easy to tell you've never hunted black timber. Or should I say don't really know what the hell you are doing. Or maybe you do. Maybe you like to hunt Elk like cockbirds. You know brush bust them. BLack timber is pretty dense and thick. Typically you can't see all that well unless you are well within 50 yards of anything.
An Elk hunter would have sweet talked him out of the black timber. Instead of taking the chance of FUCKING EVERYTHING UP by chasing him in black timber.
Moral of the story, you're fucking dreaming about being a real Elk hunter.
Just like you've pulled a 6 horse slant to a FS trailhead at 10,000ft ASL.
The problem with that is, your truck has a topper, and there are no FS trailheads in Wyo at 10,000 asl...
again, just a dreamer with tall tails...