What are you using and why do you like it?
I started with Unique and H110. I'm thinking about trying 2400 or Lil' Gun next.
I started with Unique and H110. I'm thinking about trying 2400 or Lil' Gun next.
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.357 Powder
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Re: .357 Powder
2400 it takes up volume and makes double charging impossible it is stable and has a nice sound to it when 14 grains of it burns behind 160 grains of bullet in my S&W 586 6" 100 & 200 yd. gongs are always a fun trip
I am going to step in it now with other reloaders and say I have worked up this load with a small rifle primer like my .38 Super ammo anything handgun with that kind of pressure gets worked up with a small rifle primer on my bench .. the cups are thicker so blown primers are less likely. However it does bump velocity when I have tested it over a chrony with lighter loads so it gets worked up from square 1 as a SRP load and my loadbook data is color coded pages so I don't forget the primer I have also shot this load in my gun with small pistol primers and it doesn't crater too bad.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/R...38&bdid=103
BTW Mid-range .38SPL loads with the 2 primers will print 2 separate groups out of my S&W 52-2 at 25 yds. vertically speaking
John
2400 it takes up volume and makes double charging impossible it is stable and has a nice sound to it when 14 grains of it burns behind 160 grains of bullet in my S&W 586 6" 100 & 200 yd. gongs are always a fun trip
I am going to step in it now with other reloaders and say I have worked up this load with a small rifle primer like my .38 Super ammo anything handgun with that kind of pressure gets worked up with a small rifle primer on my bench .. the cups are thicker so blown primers are less likely. However it does bump velocity when I have tested it over a chrony with lighter loads so it gets worked up from square 1 as a SRP load and my loadbook data is color coded pages so I don't forget the primer I have also shot this load in my gun with small pistol primers and it doesn't crater too bad.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/R...38&bdid=103
BTW Mid-range .38SPL loads with the 2 primers will print 2 separate groups out of my S&W 52-2 at 25 yds. vertically speaking
John
Re: .357 Powder
I have used Unique,2400,H110,AA#9 and #5,Bullseye and 231. Of all I use H110 for power loads and #5 for my plincking. It meters real good. Unique is also real nice but doesn't meter to well in my pro auto disk. 2400 seems dirty and leaves a lot of unburned powder in my GP100.
I have used Unique,2400,H110,AA#9 and #5,Bullseye and 231. Of all I use H110 for power loads and #5 for my plincking. It meters real good. Unique is also real nice but doesn't meter to well in my pro auto disk. 2400 seems dirty and leaves a lot of unburned powder in my GP100.
Re: .357 Powder
Note too sure if you guys can get this powder over in the States but here in the UK I use:
vihtavuori N350 for .357 loads. Just loves the Marlin Cowboy leaver action.
I tried Bullseye, 2400, bluedot etc.... but nothing compared to this powder!
Note too sure if you guys can get this powder over in the States but here in the UK I use:
vihtavuori N350 for .357 loads. Just loves the Marlin Cowboy leaver action.
I tried Bullseye, 2400, bluedot etc.... but nothing compared to this powder!
Re: .357 Powder
will clays work.I know it works for a 38.my dad loads it for his 38 and has good results with it.but I cannot remember the charge weight.think its 4.0gn.why he use's it because it burns cleaner than some of the other brands.you can go to their web site and see if its a good powder for a 357.well I just looked and they say 4.6gn of clays with a 158gn bullet.
will clays work.I know it works for a 38.my dad loads it for his 38 and has good results with it.but I cannot remember the charge weight.think its 4.0gn.why he use's it because it burns cleaner than some of the other brands.you can go to their web site and see if its a good powder for a 357.well I just looked and they say 4.6gn of clays with a 158gn bullet.
Re: .357 Powder
Anything that works in a 38 will work in the 357. You can take 38 load data and apply it directly to the 357 cases. I shoot Unique and H110 in my revolver, although I've also used 800X, Blue Dot, Red Dot, and Power Pistol.
I hear 2400 is dynamite stuff as well.
H110 is warned to be loaded heavy only, don't load it down. It's fantastic stuff though for hot loads. It meters very well and with 20-22gr in a 357 case underneath 125gr bullets it will rock your world... So will the muzzle flash.
Anything that works in a 38 will work in the 357. You can take 38 load data and apply it directly to the 357 cases. I shoot Unique and H110 in my revolver, although I've also used 800X, Blue Dot, Red Dot, and Power Pistol.
I hear 2400 is dynamite stuff as well.
H110 is warned to be loaded heavy only, don't load it down. It's fantastic stuff though for hot loads. It meters very well and with 20-22gr in a 357 case underneath 125gr bullets it will rock your world... So will the muzzle flash.
Re: .357 Powder
As long as it is for 125 gr. Jacketed you should be OK standard caveats on load work up apply,..
back off and work up with new combo
Are you trying to duplicate a factory loading ?
John
As long as it is for 125 gr. Jacketed you should be OK standard caveats on load work up apply,..
back off and work up with new combo
Are you trying to duplicate a factory loading ?
John
Re: .357 Powder
If you have H110 my go-to load is 21.0gr under a 125 JHP. Start at 20gr, but don't go much below 19gr since H110 has warnings not to load too light.
22 is the listed max from Hodgon. My revolver doesn't run as hot as my dad's, he gets away with 21.5 all day long, but that's getting too hot for mine.
If you have H110 my go-to load is 21.0gr under a 125 JHP. Start at 20gr, but don't go much below 19gr since H110 has warnings not to load too light.
22 is the listed max from Hodgon. My revolver doesn't run as hot as my dad's, he gets away with 21.5 all day long, but that's getting too hot for mine.
Re: .357 Powder
2400 for jacketed bullets. Excellent velocity and accuracy. Herco for 170-180 cast. Great accuracy and around 1000 f/s out of a 6" barrel. Very comfortable to shoot and outstanding accuracy. I tried W 296 and H 110 in jacketed loads. Accuracy was ok but velocity was about 200 f/s slower than 2400 even though book said they should be 100-200f/s faster. If you don't have a chronograph, you would never know what you are getting.
david
2400 for jacketed bullets. Excellent velocity and accuracy. Herco for 170-180 cast. Great accuracy and around 1000 f/s out of a 6" barrel. Very comfortable to shoot and outstanding accuracy. I tried W 296 and H 110 in jacketed loads. Accuracy was ok but velocity was about 200 f/s slower than 2400 even though book said they should be 100-200f/s faster. If you don't have a chronograph, you would never know what you are getting.
david
Re: .357 Powder
To all those that said 296, I agree. It's relatively clean and measures out very uniformly, and is good for most of the warm/hot .357 loading applications.
To all those that said 296, I agree. It's relatively clean and measures out very uniformly, and is good for most of the warm/hot .357 loading applications.
Re: .357 Powder
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I keep wanting to try enforcer but nobody has it </div></div>
Enforcer = AA#9 = H108 = WC820
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/
You can find it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I keep wanting to try enforcer but nobody has it </div></div>
Enforcer = AA#9 = H108 = WC820
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/
You can find it.
Re: .357 Powder
I used W-296 for awhile. Used it with 110gr HP's with 22.7gr of 296. Hot load, but fun especially at night from a 4" barrel.
I used W-296 for awhile. Used it with 110gr HP's with 22.7gr of 296. Hot load, but fun especially at night from a 4" barrel.
Re: .357 Powder
H 110 is my favorite for 158 gr jacketed,18 gr over a std primer gives me 2200 fps from my Marlin lever gun....
H 110 is my favorite for 158 gr jacketed,18 gr over a std primer gives me 2200 fps from my Marlin lever gun....
Re: .357 Powder
Earlier up I stated that I didn't care for Unique too much because of the inconsistantcy of the charge through my pro auto disk. Last time I used it was around a year ago. The other night I figured I'd start going through my powders and shoot'in up what I don't plan on restocking. I used my uniflow to charge all my 357 cases and blew off a couple hundred rounds. I love that stuff, I will be buying more and using my uniflow to charge the cases for now on.
Earlier up I stated that I didn't care for Unique too much because of the inconsistantcy of the charge through my pro auto disk. Last time I used it was around a year ago. The other night I figured I'd start going through my powders and shoot'in up what I don't plan on restocking. I used my uniflow to charge all my 357 cases and blew off a couple hundred rounds. I love that stuff, I will be buying more and using my uniflow to charge the cases for now on.
Re: .357 Powder
I've used Bullseye, Unique, and 2400.
No problems with the Bullseye.
Unique left one heck of a lot of soot and crap. Extremely dirty if you ask me.
2400 much cleaner, and about as easy to use as the Bullseye. Never had any problems measuring any of them. Just personal preferences.
Yet to try the 296 though. Maybe this summer.
I've used Bullseye, Unique, and 2400.
No problems with the Bullseye.
Unique left one heck of a lot of soot and crap. Extremely dirty if you ask me.
2400 much cleaner, and about as easy to use as the Bullseye. Never had any problems measuring any of them. Just personal preferences.
Yet to try the 296 though. Maybe this summer.
Re: .357 Powder
to get the proper performance out of 296 or H110 you have to use a maximum load, magnum primers and a good strong crimp. I usually use a roll crimp into the cannelure then finish it with a taper crimp to insure proper fit in the chamber.
to get the proper performance out of 296 or H110 you have to use a maximum load, magnum primers and a good strong crimp. I usually use a roll crimp into the cannelure then finish it with a taper crimp to insure proper fit in the chamber.
Re: .357 Powder
If one does reduced load experiments in 357mag, 44mag, 45Colt, etc with H110/W296, yes heavy bullets and magnum primers help, but to get down to 1/2 powder charge and have the load work, the roll crimp is the 600 pound gorilla.
And when the primer goes off, but the H110 does not, a revolver often jams with a bullet pushed into the forcing cone. It is really jammed bad until a ramrod knocks the bullet back into the cylinder.
If one does reduced load experiments in 357mag, 44mag, 45Colt, etc with H110/W296, yes heavy bullets and magnum primers help, but to get down to 1/2 powder charge and have the load work, the roll crimp is the 600 pound gorilla.
And when the primer goes off, but the H110 does not, a revolver often jams with a bullet pushed into the forcing cone. It is really jammed bad until a ramrod knocks the bullet back into the cylinder.
Re: .357 Powder
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If one does reduced load experiments in 357mag, 44mag, 45Colt, etc with H110/W296, yes heavy bullets and magnum primers help, but to get down to 1/2 powder charge and have the load work, the roll crimp is the 600 pound gorilla.
And when the primer goes off, but the H110 does not, a revolver often jams with a bullet pushed into the forcing cone. It is really jammed bad until a ramrod knocks the bullet back into the cylinder. </div></div>
vinconco has it right - H110/W296 should only be used in heavy loads, and in that capacity, it excels (my #1). Hodgdon has a warning on their website to not reduce H110 loads more than 10% below max, or bad things can happen. There are much better powders for reduced loads.
(EDITED TO ADD
Correction - their number is 3%:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those loads listed where a starting load is not shown, start 10% below the suggested maximum load and then approach maximums carefully, watching for any sign of pressure (difficult extraction, cratered and flattened or blown primers, and unusual recoil). H110 and Winchester 296 loads should not be reduced more than 3%.
Reduce H110 and Winchester 296 loads 3% and work up from there. H110 and Winchester 296 if reduced too much will cause inconsistent ignition. In some cases it will lodge a bullet in the barrel, causing a hazardous situation (Barrel Obstruction). This may cause severe personal injury or death to users or bystanders. DO NOT REDUCE H110 LOADS BY MORE THAN 3%. </div></div>
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
Cheers,
Bill
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If one does reduced load experiments in 357mag, 44mag, 45Colt, etc with H110/W296, yes heavy bullets and magnum primers help, but to get down to 1/2 powder charge and have the load work, the roll crimp is the 600 pound gorilla.
And when the primer goes off, but the H110 does not, a revolver often jams with a bullet pushed into the forcing cone. It is really jammed bad until a ramrod knocks the bullet back into the cylinder. </div></div>
vinconco has it right - H110/W296 should only be used in heavy loads, and in that capacity, it excels (my #1). Hodgdon has a warning on their website to not reduce H110 loads more than 10% below max, or bad things can happen. There are much better powders for reduced loads.
(EDITED TO ADD
Correction - their number is 3%:<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those loads listed where a starting load is not shown, start 10% below the suggested maximum load and then approach maximums carefully, watching for any sign of pressure (difficult extraction, cratered and flattened or blown primers, and unusual recoil). H110 and Winchester 296 loads should not be reduced more than 3%.
Reduce H110 and Winchester 296 loads 3% and work up from there. H110 and Winchester 296 if reduced too much will cause inconsistent ignition. In some cases it will lodge a bullet in the barrel, causing a hazardous situation (Barrel Obstruction). This may cause severe personal injury or death to users or bystanders. DO NOT REDUCE H110 LOADS BY MORE THAN 3%. </div></div>
http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
Cheers,
Bill
