Lake City is really good for ARs and bolt guns.What’s everyone’s preferred 5.56 brass?
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Lake City is really good for ARs and bolt guns.What’s everyone’s preferred 5.56 brass?
What's left behind at the range.What’s everyone’s preferred 5.56 brass?
Do you know what your BTO measurement is?I found an exact clone of 77 SMK Federal Gold Medal Match using Staball Match... I mean EXACT!
77 SMK
Lake City Match prepped brass (same year, annealed, resized, flash hole deburred, trimmed/chamfered)
24.1 gr of Staball Match
Rem 7-1/2 primer
COL = 2.240" (same length as FGMM)
Velocity is (20" barrel) 2645 fps, SD of 9 (same velocity and SD as FGMM)
They both shoot about 1/2 MOA out of my 20" 1:7.7 4 groove Bartlein AR rifle with CLE chamber and both have the exact same velocity and SD's.
This is a great combo because the bullets, powder, cases and primers are readily available to everyone. It also helps that Staball Match meters great through a progressive!!!!! You can mass produce these puppies!!!
Using the Hornady comparator, the CBTO = 1.860"Do you know what your BTO measurement is?
Not long ago got SNAFU by some 308 bullets that the ogive was shoved forward more on and had to shove in the case further.
Ate some powder room.
Currently working on 69g smks that got sidetracked but well under 1 moa and have to test gas block settings next trip so I can finalize load.
Was running my 52g and 55g loads fine but intermittent feed problems with the 69g.
I've loaded just about every large rifle primer in a 308 gas gun and never had a problem. Take that for what you paid for it.Might be a stupid question;
BR primers for gas gun loads? I acquired some small rifle bench rest primers in a trade and want to make use. Too soft?
Remington 7-1/2 BR. I've only used CCI 400, and Fed 200 in AR platformYoure fine. Ive run cci 400s, br2s, br4s, wsr, rem 7.5, fiocchi, sellier and bellot, federal, etc. Never have I had a problem with a primer in an ar15. What primer specifically do you have?
Damn I missed that, thanks so much! Any suggestions on quality 223 brass?Lapua's site said "
Due to the continued high product demand and the prevailing market conditions impacted especially by the Ukraine situation, the availability of some of our products is unfortunately limited and delivery times have become extended. To better serve our civilian and military obligations, some of our components will be temporarily suspended from production, including the .222 Rem."
I shoot PRS gas gun and a few team sniper matches like Mammoth and have always had really good results with Lapua (back when you could find it for 50 bucks per 100).I feel like youre wasting money shooting lapua brass from an ar15. I used to do it too. I stopped. Are you shooting any particular discipline or just trying to shoot tiny groups?
Norma is decent. Match prepping LC or any other quality brass should be sufficient for most ar15 needs.
^^^^^^^^^ This right here.Match prepping LC or any other quality brass should be sufficient for most ar15 needs.
Before I reloaded I shot up a ton of fiocchi. In particular their 50gr vmax load. It shot lights out out of my sweet 16 1:9 twist barrel. So when I was ready to reload I had tons of it and I also made some very accurate reloads out of it for 6x45 and 223. I was told to throw it away because the flash holes were generally off center. I dunno if theyre still that way but 10 years ago they definitley were. Either way it made good ammo.I have made sub 1/2 inch loads out of Frontier and GFL (Ficochi) for example.
Yes. It will probably like from 21-22 grains of N133. 2.260 OALHas anyone used N133 with 70 grain RDFs for 5.56in a gas gun? I know N140 is pretty well used, but there’s none of that locally.
I have read that as well .I was told to throw it away because the flash holes were generally off center. I dunno if theyre still that way but 10 years ago they definitley were. Either way it made good ammo.
Sort out batches to use and use the predominant headstamp for your favorite load or whichever one you think is better for some reason.
There are a couple brands I don't like but others think are special to them. Trade barter or toss in the armageddon pile.
Lake city brass is popular, I'm indifferent to it and not been left in quantities at my local range for a few years.
If you want to recover your brass during practice etc a handy thing I found was a brass goat. Most of the time if not standing / moving I use it with the bottom (collection mag) off.
That way makes it easier to burn my finger tips checking primers during load development.
Okay this sounds like what I’ll end up doing. I already just use a mix of everything for my plinking 62gr loads. But I’ll sort out the LC brass for my 77gr ones. Thanks!I did this before I just decided to buy 1k lots of once fired LC for my 77gr loads. I'd set up a dozen different coffee cans or 1gal ziplock bags and sort by headstamp until my eyes hurt. I'd then use the largest batch for my 77s and everything else for 55s.
Now I just buy once fired LC and use the unsorted range pick up brass for 55s. If I was shooting more DMR matches, and using more 77s, I'd probably mark my LC cases to ensure I picked them up and kept them separated but using less than a mag at most 2 and 3 gun matches means a thousand rounds loaded in prepped once fired LC can keep me from sorting brass for a year or more.
Starline is the way.Damn I missed that, thanks so much! Any suggestions on quality 223 brass?
That is how I come to find out which plinker bullets sucked and which were good.Okay this sounds like what I’ll end up doing. I already just use a mix of everything for my plinking 62gr loads. But I’ll sort out the LC brass for my 77gr ones. Thanks!
WowSome pistol powders data points for Subsonic using 55 grain bullets
I would say around 3.6-3.7 grains of VV N330 and some cotton, and that might be as good as you can do on this planet earth. Of course, you could use 80 grain bullets and try similar powder charges in ballpark to guess, and narrow it down fast.
How does my velocity look ? Shooting it out of a 14.5"Mixed headstamps says it all.
Sort out one batch of whatever you have plenty of.
I was just curious whether or not I was in the neighborhood for decent velocity out of a 14.5". Never messed with 223 much. Much less 77gr bullets.I don't look at velocity till I get it grouping.
I use small sample sizes shot from a bench.
You can watch the groups string horizontal and vertical, expand and come togeather around book max or carefully above if confident in experience.
Then up sample sizes to 10 and bracket the best load in one tenth grain incraments.
Then I want velocity #'s.
I'm an old school shithead. Lol
I usually shoot 55gr through my 14.5BA barrel but I did run some Frontier 75gr BTHP last time out. Only ran 3 rounds to see how they'd shoot. Average velocity wad 2695 with ES of 19 and SD of 8. Yes, it's a small sample size but point of shooting was to check velocity for heavier bullets. I've decided to try developing 68/69 bthp for a little better velocityI was just curious whether or not I was in the neighborhood for decent velocity out of a 14.5". Never messed with 223 much. Much less 77gr bullets.
Any information on 150 grain SST's or even 165 grain
I think you may have it backwards if measuring at the muzzle. But depends if you are going up from 55's or down from 77'sI usually shoot 55gr through my 14.5BA barrel but I did run some Frontier 75gr BTHP last time out. Only ran 3 rounds to see how they'd shoot. Average velocity wad 2695 with ES of 19 and SD of 8. Yes, it's a small sample size but point of shooting was to check velocity for heavier bullets. I've decided to try developing 68/69 bthp for a little better velocity