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6.5 Creedmoor
- Thread starter Sportin Wood
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The eldm are fantastic especially at the price point they come in at. The Barnes work well also. I used the 140 match burners a few times and they shoot well. Check out blue collar reloading he should have eldm in stock and has the best price. He’s also a great supporter of this community and just hooked up the prize table big time at the pigg river ham match, good dude. As kindabity said h4350 is a go too for all of us. Blue collar may have that in stock also. Think midsouth has free hazmat today but not sure what they have in stock.
If they gave you the load data for the 147 that might be a good place to start. Brass, Primer, Powder, BTO length. That would give you a big head start. Match their results and you know you are on the right track, then you can mix it up if you want to later.
I would just grab the 140 ELD-Ms, H4350, primer of your choice/or what you can find. A lot of load data floating around for that combination.
Hodgdon H4350 8 lbs | H4350 Reloading Powder
Hodgdon's H4350 Reloading Powder is perfect for long range shooting & hunting. Purchase this powder in the 8 lb size as the most accurate & economical choice.
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6.5mm .264 Diameter Hornady 140 Grain ELD Match Ammo
Save money by ordering your 6.5mm .264 diameter Hornady 140 Grain ELD Match bullets online at Midsouth Shooters. This ammo is ideal for long distance shooting.
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Don’t make a mountain out of a mole hill. Probably the most proven combo around and as allenone said so much data for this combo.
Both in stock and free hazmat today only. Probably have primers also if you need them.
Hornady 6.5mm 140gr ELD-Match #26331x
Product Information Caliber: 6.5mm Bullet Diameter: 0.264” Bullet Weight: 140 Grains OAL: 1.374" Bullet Style: Polymer Tipped Boat Tail G1 BC: 0.646 Part Number: 26331x Quantity: 500
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Yeah that should be fine. I shoot starline in 6.5cm and use 4350 and am at 42.65 with a 130 berger
What barrel are you shooting & what velocity are you getting? I just picked up some 130 VLDs to try out in a 26" Krieger.
Hodgdon does list that combination Starting load of 40.4 gr @ 2,432 fps, Max load of 46.0 gr (Compressed) @2,695 fps so it is possible.
I've never ran it so I can't help you more than that.
I'm shooting a 24" proof for that one.
42.64gr H4350
CCI BR2
130 OTM BERGER
STARLINE BRASS
MV = 2865
What ever you do, do not become married to H4350. Its a good powder but there are others, just as good, maybe, in your rifle even better. My main 6.5 has never shot H4350 worth a darn and in all three of the 6.5’s I have owned, the 4350 series powders from all brands have been just plain slow. However both of the 6.5’s I currently own shoot great with Superformance. ( Not temp stable you say? Maybe so, but to this date, my aiming points have not been more than 0.1 mil off out to 840 yards. )
Now my point is, there are lots of good powders out there, if one does not work, give another a try.
Now my point is, there are lots of good powders out there, if one does not work, give another a try.
It's definitely the best for me in 2 different rifles shooting 6.5cm. I use 6.5Staball in 6cm and it does great but so does H4350
Oddly enough, primers will vary. I did a test a few years ago with a 65 Saum using Cci br2, 200, 250, fed 210m and 215m. The hightes velocity worse accuracy was with BR2, and the most accurate wear 210M and CCI250. 200 and 215M were okay but 215s had the worst es. These were 5 shots samples with all other variables being the same with a load that known shot very well with the 210M.
Recommended load for Tikka T3X CTR?
I have a new Tikka T3X CTR arriving today. I generally load 140 Hornady ELDM or Berger Hybrid with 42.4 grains of H4350. That combination shoots well in my Surgeon heavy gun and my Barrett Fieldcraft. I'll likely start that way with the Tikka unless someone has found the magic sauce for that rifle. Thanks for the informative thread!
I have a new Tikka T3X CTR arriving today. I generally load 140 Hornady ELDM or Berger Hybrid with 42.4 grains of H4350. That combination shoots well in my Surgeon heavy gun and my Barrett Fieldcraft. I'll likely start that way with the Tikka unless someone has found the magic sauce for that rifle. Thanks for the informative thread!
The 147 shoots great in my Tikka, 140's do was well. Just FYI, Tikka barrels are known to be very accurate but slow.
My 24" CTR:
147 ELD-M
40.2 grains H4350 (slow lot)
Starline brass (case capacity about the same as Lapua)
Velocity: 2585 FPS, ES 13, SD 5.
You will find that accuracy nodes are often similar between guns but every lot of H4350 is slightly different and case capacity fo the brass will matter. I would start by loading up 150 rounds with a low powder charge (40ish grains) at about 2.82" COAL with the 147. Odds are it will group well, you can mess with seating depth and powder charge from there if you need to. Hornady brass has slightly more capacity, which may give you a little more powder/speed before hitting pressure. I shoot my guns a lot in various states of field conditions, hot, wet, dusty, etc so I like to stay far away from pressure.
My 24" ctr shoots pretty well with 42.2gr Rl16 behind 140 eldm, they're going 2630fps, this was in alpha brass, much warmer gave me bolt lift. I was able to switch to lapua and run up to 42.7gr at 2680fps and still shooting well. Tikka hammer forged barrels are def slower than aftermarket cut rifled stuff on the market.
New to loading this round.
I load for 30=06 and 308. Sierra 175's work in most .308's. What's the "Sierra 175" for 6.5 CM? What will shoot well in almost all of them?
God bless America
I load for 30=06 and 308. Sierra 175's work in most .308's. What's the "Sierra 175" for 6.5 CM? What will shoot well in almost all of them?
God bless America
The Hornady 140 grain ELD-M is somewhat of a standard for the 6.5C. The 143 ELD-X if hunting.
Bergers and Sierras in the 140 class are also very popular.
18” Rock Creek by PVA
MV: 2723
3.6/8 SD/ES
42.6g of H4530
CCI450
Peterson SRP
130gr Sierra TGK
MV: 2723
3.6/8 SD/ES
42.6g of H4530
CCI450
Peterson SRP
130gr Sierra TGK
I loaded 42gr rl16 into alpha brass without any issue with 140eldm, which is a bulkier powder than H4350. Was seated at 2.91 coal however, these were for a long throat Tikka. They hovered right around 2620fps from the slow ass 24" ctr barrel. I also run necked down alpha 65cm brass in my 25cm using 42.2gr of N555 with 135 Bergers at 2.860 coal without issues, N555 is even bulkier.
Or you get em without binder plate and depending on manufacturer you can go 2.95 to 2.97.
Do tell moreive never heard of what your saying
MDT non binder plate mags take 2.95 internal coal, American Rifle Co AICS mags take 2.97" internal. Even Accurate Mag non binder take 2.95. Pretty sure AI AW mags will take 2.96 or so. Here is a screen from accurate mags website, notice they have a short version and an extended non binder plate. You also have to ensure your action can handle the extra OAL. Heavy Eldm bullets in a creed usually start touching lands around 2.88 so the extra room isn't of much use but bergers/smk can be loaded over 2.9" before touching. This just gets the bullet out of the powder space.Do tell more
I'm needing for an ar10 rifle not bolt Acton..... I'm thinking these are for bolts right?
Yes, unfortunately there are no extended coal length ar10 mags.
Usually it's tack welded inside the magazine at the front end the box. If you ground off the welds, likely yes.
Larue are about the longest you can get for AR10. 2.860" is max load in them.
Anyone running 156’s? I just picked up a 1/7.5 twist barrel just to try them next season in PRS.
I picked up a 28" 7.5tw for same purpose. Mid 2600fps has been what I've heard works best, with a long barrel and higher psi I'm sure there is a place mid 2700s they shoot too. I have found the 156/153.5 to be pretty forgiving in the 30-45k jump range. I prefer to keep my 156s for my hunting rifles, and am going to buy up 3k 153.5s when they're available again.
For my WCSS 6.5CR AR-10 22" barrel, I load with Lapua Scenar-L 136gr and 39.5gr N550 resulting in an average MV of 2740fps with SDs around 7-8.
For my 6.5CR Bolt (Impact Precision SA, 26" Bartlein 1:8), i load with Berger 140gr VLD Target and 40.6gr N550 resulting in an average MV of 2850fps. This is the load I successfully took to the one-mile. Shoots .5MOA all day though if i take my time, .3MOA is within reach.
I agree N550 is a solid powder for 6.5 especially with 130-136gr weight range.
I shot 1000 of the Norma Golden Target 130’s with it thru my factory Bergara.
It’s faster burning than H4350 so don’t get to caught up in looking at burn rate charts as it is faster than some show….. closer to Varget than H4350.
I shot 1000 of the Norma Golden Target 130’s with it thru my factory Bergara.
It’s faster burning than H4350 so don’t get to caught up in looking at burn rate charts as it is faster than some show….. closer to Varget than H4350.
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Good to know
I tested a batch of Hornady 147gr ELD Match and the results were not spectacular. I went back to the Berger VLD and just stayed there.. for the Bolt that is.
I have other issues with the AR-10 struggling to get anywhere near 1MOA on a consistent basis with a variety of bullets and loads. I gave up on using that as a precision platform and resigned to stick with the Senar-L just because i have them. I went from a 22" to 24" and nothing improved. Tested different loads and bullet seat... nothing helped. It is a very good steel shooter out to 800 but that is about it.
