So, who is having any luck running a short action and mag with the heavy 147's and 150's? Do yall find that more that a intermediate action is necessary?
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So, who is having any luck running a short action and mag with the heavy 147's and 150's? Do yall find that more that a intermediate action is necessary?
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man, I am just not sold yet on a short action 6.5 PRC...totally sold on the round, just not on action length..130 and 153 A-Tip is like peas and carrots. 2.950"
man, I am just not sold yet on a short action 6.5 PRC...totally sold on the round, just not on action length.
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I have just seen and read too much about stiff/unclosable bolts on short actions with the heavy bulletsThere's no reason to choose 6.5 PRC unless you're choosing a short action. 6.5 PRC is the short action equivalent of 6.5-284 or 6.5-06.
I have just seen and read too much about stiff/unclosable bolts on short actions with the heavy bullets
I have just seen and read too much about stiff/unclosable bolts on short actions with the heavy bullets
thats the problem....I only see it as a actual short action cartridge if using factory ammo.Nah man. 2.950" COAL and 147 ELD-M fits damn near perfect in my AICS 300 WSM mags. I am curious how 156 grain bullets will fit though... 2.950" is pretty much the limit for these mags.
Nice!Something else to think about for the guys with the .130 freebore.
I was running low on my reloads today and wanted to go hunting so I took some factory precision hunter ammo with the 143 eldx and just seated them about .030 deeper so that I wouldn’t jam the bullets so far into the lands and it shot great!
This would even work for some of the guys that don’t reload but have a short free bore for some reason, a press and a seater and about 30 seconds to do a box of 20
This was the first and only group I shot before I rushed off to the deer stand
Anyone have a load worked up the the Berger 156?
Thank you. Got one for the 147s too? Have you used any of the other reloader powder or just the R26? I got some R16 I just got.ADG brass. 156 bergers. With RL26. Cci 200. Between 54.5 and 55.3gr 5 round groups all under 1/2 moa. Some in the .3s for 5 rounds. 22 inch proof 7.5 twist with TB U7 can. TS customs spun up barrel with shorter freebore. Seated at the lands at 2.970. 2900 FPS pending your load in there. On the higher end of published max, but I didnt see any pressure or heavy bolt lift in MY rifle. Others may have issues? Start low and work up.
The 54.5 had the lowest SD in 5 rounds at 3.4. Average velocity for that load was 2870.
Actually i have a ton of load data for that specific rifle you now own. Did you lose my data?Anyone have a load worked up the the Berger 156?
Actually i have a ton of load data for that specific rifle you now own. Did you lose my data?
RL-26, H-1000, Retumbo, RL-25, RL-33 are good powders for the 6.5 PRC. I don't think RL-16 will work w heavy weights in the 6.5 PRC
Sounds like @BCX has done the work for that rifle already. I would take what he gave you and start with that instead of starting over. I wouldn't use RL16 personally either.
Actually i have a ton of load data for that specific rifle you now own. Did you lose my data?
RL-26, H-1000, Retumbo, RL-25, RL-33 are good powders for the 6.5 PRC. I don't think RL-16 will work w heavy weights in the 6.5 PRC
Great, thank you.I played w Flatline 123 w RL-26.
I believe Berger has load data for RL-33 w the 156 and actually gets higher velocity than RL-26 w that combo.
RL-33 is all i use in my 338 LM AI. Good accuracy, single digit numbers w high velocity. No pressure issues.That's strange that you have RL-33 as a good powder for 6.5 PRC. I don't doubt you...because you have put in the work and gathered the data.....However, I found it really sub-optimal on the 300PRC with a 28" barrel and with 225 ELD-M's, 230 and 250 gr A-Tips...I just couldn't get near the velocity of a Retumbo or N565 ...and even still I was having pressure signs. It is a very slow burning powder with very large kernels.
Just got off the phone w Berger. RL-33 gave higher velocity over RL-33 w the 156
Berger 156 w RL-26
Starting Load 52.0
Max 57.8
Berger 156 w RL-33
Starting Load 60.5
Max 67.1
Fixed itCan you clarify which one Berger said had higher velocity?
What kind of real world velocity are they seeing?
I had no problem running the 156 Berger at 57.8 w RL-26. Again i ran Hornady 147 way over their book max. Im my findings, IN MY RIFLE HORNADYS LOAD DATA WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE.
6.5 PRC had 3 reamers that i know of. I ran a .188 FB and never jammed the lands allowing for higher pressures towards the top end.
Not sure if your asking me or someone else. I see slightly over 2900 at 55.3gr RL26 in a 22 inch tube.
Buddies running them are at right about 3k in 26 tubes. Not sure their load data. Would have to ask.
3k fps is easy from a 26-28 inch. Pm me and i will tell u how fast i was able to push.Anybody really, I have a barrel on the way with the Hope of pushing heavies around 3k.
Hornady was the only brass available at the time.Nice! What's your COAL?
Edit.. what brass are you using. I missed it if you mentioned it before.
Sounds great! Have you recently found r26?What has everyone found out what the 147 eldms liked as far as jump from the lands?
Weather: 41*F, 29.55inHg, 62%H.
Shot some loads to see if I can find pressure and see what velocity I can get today with Rel26 and IMR8133 all at a CBTO of 2.264 which is .010” off. Rel26 seemed the best between 55.3 at 2990-55.6 at 3016 with virgin Gunwerks brass and cci200 LR primers using a MS V3.
Quick Load predictions using ADG’s average H2O weight of 66.9gr yielded a 2950 for 55.3 and 2965 for 55.6. At 56g of reloader 26 I got 3022, but to be nice to the barrel I’m going to stay around 3000fps, so I didn’t need to shoot the 56.5g re26, I did not see any pressure signs of any sort.
It shot the 55.3, 55.6, 55.9 into a 1.44” group at 300. Probably be playing with 55.3-55.6gr loads at differing cbto’s.
IMR8133 didn’t do as well as I thought it would, shot 57gr to 60gr in .5gr increments and at 60gr only got 2938fps and was getting a pretty full case
Yes I did about a month ago at a local store.....got 2lbs at that time and their supposed to get more in.....the wife and I have to go to the doc the day it’s supposed to come in so I’ll be dropping by to hopefully pick up more. Otherwise the bit I’ve been researching H4831sc and reloader 23 looks to have worked good for others and I plan to see if that is available also. I plugged those powders in to QL and they look to be just as good as reloader 26 on the computer.....not real world experience but.Sounds great! Have you recently found r26?
Ya the .43” group does look good but the es/sd is definitely not going to cut it.....unless I play with the charge weight to possibly get it down. Lol I don’t know what is best....guess I’ll play around and find out, all part of reloading, trial and error, most time error for me haha.It really is like pixie dust. I want to get some but only have r19 now I plan to use for my 6.5cm and maybe the .308. Your groups look really promising especially the .43”. Have you tried anything besides the 147?
Don’t know, maybe someone else that has used monos more than I have can answer. This year was the first time shooting Barnes bullets or monos ever. In my 30-06 I used the 150 ttsx on two deer from ~30yrds to ~100yrds.....I liked them quite a bit, all drt, the 30yrd one was purposely shot in the shoulder area to see the damage done, wasn’t bad at all. The other was a neck hit. The thing I look for is the minimum expansion velocity in a bullet for hunting.I’m looking at getting a 20 incher spun up for my covert. Shooting 127 lrx. How do you think it would perform. Hunting deer mainly!
Good to know @BCX, very much appreciate your findings and advice!Barnes TSX and TTSX has always been a killer for me. I have used them in .223, .308, .323 and .375. Keep the velocity up and they will expand. If its a far shot and you expect low impact velocity, aim for the shoulder forcing bullet expansion...I have had pedals break off and create additional wound channels. Have also shot length wise through 200LB plus deer.