6 creedmoor copper fouling with pics

ajridgedell

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So my wife's comp gun is copper fouling the last 8 inches pretty good. I just got a bore scope recently and I have been comparing a couple different rifles. All barrels Ill mention are bartlein 7.5 twist chambered in 6 creedmoor and have shot exclusively hornady 108s. Her gun has about 600 rounds down it and has been cleaned a few times. This last time I clean with JB bore paste and used the bore cam to make sure all copper was gone. After firing about 20 rounds this weekend its fouled as bad as it ever has been. Up untill recently we've been using imr 4166 and it shot great, but after looking at these other barrels Im thinking this fast powder it killing the throat?
My new barrel has maybe 200 rounds down it of 4166 and H4350 and it has what i assume is normal copper fouling after 50 or so shots. Again the throat shows more firecracking than than I would have expected for 200 rounds. Maybe the 4166 i shot through it is pretty rough on it, idk what else. The last barrel Ive compared is my friends that has shot nothing but hornady factory ammo. about 600 rounds also. he has only barely cleaned it one time after about 10 shots and his has less cracking than my 200 rounds barrel and just a few copper streaks in the last 4 inches of barrel. i was impressed by the lack of fouling in his barrel.
So should I try to salvage my wifes barrel that is fouling? if so what can i do to help it out? next one i will try a slower powder to see what difference that makes. i havnt looked at a ton of barrels so how bad off is it really?

Her barrels throat:
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Her land:
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Last couple inches look about like this:
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My barrels throat:
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my land:
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last couple inches of my barrel:
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Them 6mm creedmoor barrels are good for about 700 rds then they are toast.......................I get about 800 rounds of top notch accuracy of my last 4 barrels ( 3 criterion 1 mcree) then it starts to degrade to around 5/8 moa up to 1200 then .75 moa 1500-2000 then consistency just gets worse after that. I get a lot of 3 shot groups around 1/2 moa then 1 or both of the last two open up to 1.25".
 
do you notice more copper the worse they get? or is the copper im seeing of any concern? i just find it odd that im suddenly seeing that much more in this one barrel.
 
When all other things are equal, a uniform amount of copper fouling is normal and actually seems to find it's own level and stay there... Ditto with carbon fouling. One more reason a bunch of us will never clean a barrel down to the bare metal on the few occasions that we get near it with a cleaning rod.

Bore scopes are the devil and can often lead people to chase shadows when an accuracy issue may have other origins.

Also something to consider if one barrel is fouling worse than others is that something as simple as a new chamber cut into a perfect blank that results in a rough lead and throat can generate copper fouling that may deposit all the way to the muzzle.

None of this answers your magic question but may give you something else to consider when trying to diagnose and fix future accuracy issues.

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When all other things are equal, a uniform amount of copper fouling is normal and actually seems to find it's own level and stay there... Ditto with carbon fouling. One more reason a bunch of us will never clean a barrel down to the bare metal on the few occasions that we get near it with a cleaning rod.

Bore scopes are the devil and can often lead people to chase shadows when an accuracy issue may have other origins.

Also something to consider if one barrel is fouling worse than others is that something as simple as a new chamber cut into a perfect blank that results in a rough lead and throat can generate copper fouling that may deposit all the way to the muzzle.

None of this answers your magic question but may give you something else to consider when trying to diagnose and fix future accuracy issues.

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And there you have it kids.... shoot it and stop with the rituals..... if you don’t know who Terry is.... google is your friend.