Corrected, measured extreme edge to edge and subtracted 0.222 (about the average diameter of a rimfire bullet on this paper) for the CTC
seems like its shooting close to the Annie then?
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Corrected, measured extreme edge to edge and subtracted 0.222 (about the average diameter of a rimfire bullet on this paper) for the CTC
seems like its shooting close to the Annie then?
Time to start a 2019 6x5, what ya say jbell. Wind will be low here in the morning, I will see if I can shoot something worthy.
Everything to date (before this test) was with the Sparrow as I have traditionally gotten slightly better results with it on other rifles. Need to experiment a little more with different ammo head to head. I have some Wolf, I think some R50, and I have some Center-X on its way. Groups were larger than best posted across the board - probably due to the suck wind conditions.Even though the average was smaller w/o a suppressor it looks like the Spectre had a better tune to it with some single round fliers that hurt the average, but I know the rifle with the Sparrow has turned in better averages. How does the rifle with the Spectre do with better ammo?? I feel like everything you have posted with the rifle has been with the Sparrow as opposed to the Spectre.
ETA: Part of the reason I have been focusing on the CCI SV is that this rifle seems to like it, I have a stash of it, and I am curious how far I can wring a $350 gun with $2/box ammo.
Do you think you could make a combined list as well from all three versions? I'm kinda curious to see where all the Vudoo's land in relation to all the older groups as well.Hey guys welcome back to the "NEW OLD HIDE", its good to be home!
So getting back to business I am starting the 6X5 thread over from scratch. Same rules:
Rules are pretty simple. There must be exactly six groups of 5 shots, all on one target board. No more, no less. No foulers on this board, every shot on the board must count. The groups need to be shot consecutively, this is not a thread for someone to post up their collection of best six groups, but their best group of six groups. Entries must be shot on or after 10/19/14. For now, lets keep this a bipod/rear bag or shooting off a ruck challenge, no mechanical rests. If enough people feel I should change that up, please let me know and I'll reconsider. (I would like to keep this as close to prone shooting as we can, so if you are able then please shoot prone. However if you cant for health reasons or other plausible reasons then go to a bench and enter your target with pride. But if you just want to squeeze that last few thousanths out of your group come on, man up and go prone!)
Each entry should have a picture of the target board, with the group measurements written on it. Include a pic of your rifle as well, as well as info on your setup, and how it was shot, weather conditions, etc. Only the best entry per person/rifle combo will be kept on the board, but enter as many times as you like, and I'll count multiple entries from multiple rifles. Same goes with best group at every distance.
This time I am doing a seperate post for the 50, 100, and 200+ yard line entry just to keep it easier to read. I am going on the same old format and making a running tally not just the top 10 or whatever. You will also see that I have a post for cold bore groups. Lets keep it as honest as possable as cold bore means FIRST ROUND FIRED THAT DAY preoid, end of story. So a cold bore plus 4. I will do any yard line you want for the cold bore so 50, 100, 200+. If you would note the distance from center for the cold bore shot if it is easy to measure (if you throw down a CB +4 that measures in the 0.1XX" then who the hell cares about the deviation at that point it is all shooter and conditions).
**Let me know if you are shooting in air temps under 40f. I will note it on the results as there is always the big question how do rimfires shoot in the cold.**
Thank you, I know the rules state only 30 shots per target, but i feel like getting an average sizer give a better representation of group size. Obviously if i used .223 the groups would be a little better, but I'm just using my average sizer unless directed otherwise.
My best 5 shot 100Y group at 0.297"
I was just shooting cheap SK+ to wait for my AR to cool down and I ended up with my best 5 shot group at 100Y. I'd say it's mostly luck, but I still managed the best 5 shot group at 100Y....
Rifle CZ455 fully customized by DJ
Scope Sightron 36X
Shot off bipod and rear bag
Ammo SK+
Best 5 shot group
The rest of groups
A number of years ago, when I started messing with the 6x5, I measured the bullet swipe and found a significant difference between the actual diameter of the swipe and the .223 most use. It varied with type of paper or card stock, bullet used, stick on target type, target backer and even humidity. In all cases it was less than .223.
Note that blacknwhite11 is using a sizer round on each target and then averaging those to use in reaching a final group size. On his first target he shows an average of .392 which would translate to .355 using .223. Nice shooting bnw.
This is interesting. I just measured some stray shots on my targets. I have some ARA targets that are a stiff cardboard. They measure pretty close to .222" which is what I have been using. Shots on targets that have been printed on regular printer paper measure much smaller. My examples are .190" to .200" or so.
That is a nice group for sure. I only see 5 groups, I need 6 consecutive to post up on the results...
I thought it would go under best 100Y group (and not 100Y average).
View attachment 705647655 yards with a Vudoo
Do you think you could make a combined list as well from all three versions? I'm kinda curious to see where all the Vudoo's land in relation to all the older groups as well.
Sorry jbell, thought you may have noticed only one of the groups had more than 5 groups, I just showed my whole target making sure I didn't hand pick 6 certain targets for the day. The top group of SK pistol match was shot left to right in order top row, second row, the rest of the groups were messing around with different holds on the chassis. Not sure what caused those 2 flyers, just guess it happens. All shots were off wood bench using a atlas bipod and rabbit ear rear bag.
Looks to be very consistent....love it.
What are your individual bull #'s or average per target?This morning:
VGW V-22 in a A.I. chassis
Vortex Razor AMG
Lapua .22LR
White and black targets are at 50 yrds
Best - .02
Worst - .45
Yellow and black targets are at 100 yrds
Best - .26
Worst - 1.1View attachment 7064678View attachment 7064679
What are your individual bull #'s or average per target?
50 yards - .02, .08, .11, .20, .22, .45 avg .18
100 yards - .26, .45, .71, .85, 1.0, 1.1 avg .72
Did I do that right?
I certainly do not mean to be rude, where are you measuring your groups at? Which targets are the 0.020" and 0.080" groups at 50 yards?
HAHA! At this point I will not be offended at anything anyone says, as I am very new to this and want to learn.
I asked on the Vudoo thread how to measure groups. I was told by reubenski: “I just set my caliper to .220” and zero it out and then measure from edge to edge where the grease marks start.”
So that’s what I did here.
The top right black and white target measures .08
The bottom right black and white target measures .02
I just remeasured and that’s what it’s saying.