Just came into a 7mm rem mag barrel prefit throated long. Heard bad on the 180 eldm blowing up and this barrel has a 1-8 twist ran them fine in a 1-9 280 ai. Berger 190? 190 a-tip? 180 eldm? Interested in hearing what everyone runs. I do use the 225 eldm in 300 win mag with perfect results and like the prices
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Well when the 180 eldm works it’s excellent.
The Berger 180 or 190 are excellent options.
Initial testing shows the 185 RDF’s might be a good option as well.
I keep hearing conflicting reports on the 183 SMK.
The Berger 180 or 190 are excellent options.
Initial testing shows the 185 RDF’s might be a good option as well.
I keep hearing conflicting reports on the 183 SMK.
I do believe the one major difference in the two is the 175 has a small ring closer to the bottom more like a cramp type thing in the lead so it will mushroom right there and just a little bit thicker jacket but not much at all and their ring is almost non-existent I've cut quite a few in 2
I'm having good luck so far with 180 ELDMs in load development in a 7am Rem mag. Haven't taken them to distance yet though
@Schw15 I just came into possession of a used Remington 7mm. Its a factory rifle ADL rifle with a 24" hunting profile barrel in darn near new condition. I've test fired it using 162 ELD-X with hand loads. Went bang no problem, got it on paper. Moving on to accuracy testing this weekend. My plan then is to jump right into the 190 Berger Target Hybrid. Hoping my barrel length and 1-9 twist rate will work with them out to 1k. Interested in your results. Keep us posted.
Seeing some pretty good 3 shot groups around 70gr of RL25 at 20 thousands off the lands in a Bergara HMR. Have 50 rounds loaded up to to some 5 shot groups over the lab radar just haven't made it out with them yet.
I've not used the Hornady bullets in my .284 so can't speak to their effectiveness. I started with Berger Hybrid 180 Hybrids and haven't looked back. I'm getting 2840 fps out of a 28" Bartlein with 1:8 twist and hit targets at 1850 yards. I've not tried anything heavier since it's a "straight" .284 and the 180's produce enough splash in our soft impact/target area to see misses but heavier bullets, if pushed at speed, are worthy of strong consideration if splash is hard to see.
My go to powder was going to be h1000 to start with. Looking for 180 eldm or 190 bergers but those 190 atips look dang good bc .422 lol came into this barrel 28 inch long 1-8 twist with muzzle brake so should get some great velocities
Not sure really but i think with the new high bc 180 eldm and 190 berger maybe easier the 195 is huge lol but i did over look that one but i also heard bad things for hunting for it but have no interest in hunting with this rifle
197 smk is also a great bullet for elr out of an 8tw. I did load work for a 280ai and it was simple. Touching and Rl26 was the key to success. You can start there with the 7 mag. This was a single shot so if you set up the 7mag so the boatail is at the neck/shoulder area short of a 4" wyatts box you will be shooting single shot also.
We’ll see what the BC really is when it gets tested at distance.
Are they providing any mach numbers?
All reports I’ve gotten about the atips show the advertised numbers to be really close.
That’s an awfully big jump from the .378 I got With the 190 hybrids testing it to just a bit over 2000.
2880 but I have gotten 2930 in testing.
with the extra case capacity over me you should get 2950 comfortably.
I use the 180 ELD Match in a custom 7 SAUM in a short action. They work well for me, Though I only took them out to 750 yds. I measured the twist rate in my barrel at 1:8.375 and at my elevation I have an SG around 2.0. No issues that Ive seen with the tips blowing up. I recently bought Berger 195 EOL's and will be loading them up soon. I really like the consistency of the Berger jacket dimensions and I have a feeding problem that sometimes hang up on the plastic tip on the ELD's
I did a little research and found out the 180 ELD MS are blowing up a lot and with a lot of people even slower barrels 1 in 8 twist 1 and 9 twist slower speeds I think I'm going to stay away I also read about the 225 ELD M's having a few blow ups and the 147 had a lot of problems might be moving to Berger's for everything
I am running the 180 eldms at 2980 out of a 7 Sherman short very good accuracy but haven't gone past 1k. Haven't run into any blow ups in a 1:8 26 inch barrel. Same rifle shoots all bergers excellent (195, 180, 184anxious to try the 190's). Will say that the eldm's are much more finicky than the bergers and never could get the 175 ELDX to shoot in the Sherman or 280 ai
I just came into that recently the finding that information I did my research it is all over different forms and Shooters maybe they corrected it it seems like they fix the 147 they were having the same problem but then I get a lot of guys say that it's never happened to them too I love the ELD MS I find them very easy to load for me and shoot lights out
Yea
I’m definitely not alone.
My problems with the 147’s disappeared.
I’m shooting them in the same barrel with a lot more wear now and they’re not going poof any more.
I found tuning the 180eldm’s incredibly easy.
little jum,p, tons of jump,,,,,it didn’t seem to matter.
good group on paper and excellent results at distance.
I’m wondering if a lot of people bought bulk lots of the good ones and are not shooting recent production.
It seemed like the last of the 218’s and the very first of the 219 coded 147’s were the issue.
My current 180’s are 2190035’s or 335’s as the code is scratched.
These are popping about 25%
