A good 1500 yard caliber

[TxDerek]

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, once you hit at 1500y, you'll want a mile. Once you get a mile, you'll want 2k, then you'll want 2640y. Go with something big enough that gives you room to grow into. Don't go with something that is capable of 1500y, but would struggle further.

 

[Earnhardt]

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, once you hit at 1500y, you'll want a mile. Once you get a mile, you'll want 2k, then you'll want 2640y. Go with something big enough that gives you room to grow into. Don't go with something that is capable of 1500y, but would struggle further.

That's why I went with the 338 Edge... for the OP, a 300 PRC or 300 RUM, will do great at 1500

 

[Steel head]

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, once you hit at 1500y, you'll want a mile. Once you get a mile, you'll want 2k, then you'll want 2640y. Go with something big enough that gives you room to grow into. Don't go with something that is capable of 1500y, but would struggle further.

True.

As a precision rifle poor I can’t afford to shoot a 338 or 375 as much as I would want to especially as I have access to 2000 easily but 2500+ sites are limited at times.

Plenty happy with the 7mm that handles all my common targets quite well and I can shoot 1-2 times a week comfortably and still fund my other hobbies.

 

[TxDerek]

I'm in that weird realm. I have lots of calibers up to and including 338s and my wife runs a 375ct. I've got out to 2k, but never further because I don't compete further than that. My wife shoots out to 2 Miles, but we shoot in different categories and we like being able to work together since we never compete on the same days lol

 

[b2lee]

I'm old fashion...I could never have a wife with a bigger gun than me...heh...seriously...I'm old school....

 

[Steel head]

I'm in that weird realm. I have lots of calibers up to and including 338s and my wife runs a 375ct.

 

[TxDerek]

Lol that was funny. I enjoy it all and the fact that she loves to shoot with me is awesome. She just didn't want to shoot "baby guns" as she puts it. She's too competitive and hates to miss, so if she's going to, she wants to miss at a far enough away target that everyone else is missing as well lol

 

[Steel head]

Steel head’s formula for easy mode to 1500 yards affordably without needing perfect conditions.
2800+ FPS.
A quality bullet with a G7 at .350ish or better preferably above 175 grains for easier spotting.

 

[Doc68]

I am shoot 7mm08 in my roger precision. I'm launching 168VLD's at 2830 out of a 27" barrel using 6.5 staball powder and lapua 308 reformed brass. I've had mine out to 1080yds and it smacks pretty hard still. Misses are easy to spot and I hear the barrel life is equivalent to a 308 barrel life.

As someone else said, stay away from the overbite rounds. My 6 creed lasted all of 1700ish rods before accuracy fell off.

 

[Tokay444]

Yes sir. 28” 1:7 shooting 115’s at 3030fps. 4th, 7th and 8th round hits. Conditions were about perfect
Technically it’s 1753 yards
Moa size rock
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My guess is the fourth round hit came after you ate that tangelo.

 

[jasent]

My guess is the fourth round hit came after you ate that tangelo.

Don’t be giving out my secret now

 

[b2lee]

Don’t be giving out my secret now

Bah...the ancient secrets of the tactical tangelo have been known for decades. It was originally scoffed at...then ridiculed....now it is accepted for what it is... a game changer.

 

[Steel head]

Bah...the ancient secrets of the tactical tangelo have been known for decades. It was originally scoffed at...then ridiculed....now it is accepted for what it is... a game changer.

They naturally contain pentazemin!

 

[Mr.Impact]

300 win mag or 338 lapua is what I would run.

 

[1911Que]

300 win mag or 338 lapua is what I would run.

I'm old skool and I love my 300 WM. In ten years the distances may be so far that it won't do the job anymore, but I'll be shooting it until the last day of that 10 years and probably more. I have a 6.5 PRC and it does the job nicely, but it doesn't have the style of the 300 WM.

 

[Steel head]

I'm old skool and I love my 300 WM. In ten years the distances may be so far that it won't do the job anymore, but I'll be shooting it until the last day of that 10 years and probably more. I have a 6.5 PRC and it does the job nicely, but it doesn't have the style of the 300 WM.

Watch mark and Sam shoot the 300WM
He’s sayin he thinks the 300WM might be better than the 300PRC with super heavies.

I 100% am confident I could get well past a mile comfortably with a 300wm.
The newer 300 bullets really changed things over the ole 190.

 

[Khavic]

300WSM, 300WM, 7WSM, 338 Lapua, 338 Edge, 338 Lapua AI, 280 Rem, 280 Rem AI..... There's a ton of them that will reliably make 1500.

 

[b2lee]

Watch mark and Sam shoot the 300WM
He’s sayin he thinks the 300WM might be better than the 300PRC with super heavies.

I 100% am confident I could get well past a mile comfortably with a 300wm.
The newer 300 bullets really changed things over the ole 190.

Mark isn't comparing apples to apples though...he's comparing his 300wm that has a longer throat...it has been chambered to allow the longer projectiles to sit where they like to be...instead of pushed down in the powder column. So, in my opinion...once it is outside the sammi spec of the reamer print...it is no longer a 300wm.

Let's be honest here...when all the BS is pushed away...the 300 PRC is a 300wm without the belt....chambered longer so you can take advantage of the newer bullets that like to be seated out long. It has a tighter chamber...and more free bore....

I am biased...because I detest belted cartridges....but I do like 30cal...and I do like taking a 230gr or even a 250gr bullet....and making it scream at 3000fps and ringing steel.

 

[Steel head]

Mark isn't comparing apples to apples though...he's comparing his 300wm that has a longer throat...it has been chambered to allow the longer projectiles to sit where they like to be...instead of pushed down in the powder column. So, in my opinion...once it is outside the sammi spec of the reamer print...it is no longer a 300wm.

Let's be honest here...when all the BS is pushed away...the 300 PRC is a 300wm without the belt....chambered longer so you can take advantage of the newer bullets that like to be seated out long. It has a tighter chamber...and more free bore....

I am biased...because I detest belted cartridges....but I do like 30cal...and I do like taking a 230gr or even a 250gr bullet....and making it scream at 3000fps and ringing steel.

Who wouldn’t change the throat With a 300WM for ELR?
That’s the benefit of 300PRS, throat is more inline with modern high BC bullets.

 

[b2lee]

Who wouldn’t change the throat With a 300WM for ELR?
That’s the benefit of 300PRS, throat is more inline with modern high BC bullets.

Everyone in ELR would change the throat....but the way a lot of these people word things...the way they deliver things...it seems that you can just walk out of Big Ed's Bait & Beer with your 300WM and it is just as good as that Ruger Precision Rifle in 300PRC.

Also....Yesterday I got my ass spanked in a 1000yd Tactical Class Shoot Off....me shooting the 300PRC.....I got smoked by a 22-284...because I forgot to not try and super load a Bipod...on a concrete bench...when shooting paper... 5" group to get me there...and then a 13" group in a shoot off....thus....it's the shooter...not the round. There are a shit ton of cartridges that will get it done at 1500yds. A great shooter can make them all shine. A crappy shooter will make them all look inferior.....but the 300PRC is the new easy button.

 

[dragman]

I have a lot of different rigs for different matches or just general purpose. But if I was going to a money shoot or hunting 1500 and under I am taking my 300WSM, 1500-2500, I am taking my 338 lapua.
From a pure accuracy standpoint I really love my 300WSMs

 

[acudaowner]

an air rifle almost zero barrel wear and the record so far in 1400 yards add another 100 yards and your at your desired 1500 yards and with an air rifle lol you can do it . if that is really true .

 

[1moaoff]

Yea
The performance and easeof 300prc kinda take a bit of the shine of off 300 Norma.

Blasphemy!

 

[Jordanwickham]

This is something more people need to realize.

Barrels are basically the razor blade heads of shooting. A good scope costs 3-5 barrels.

 

[b2lee]

Barrels are basically the razor blade heads of shooting. A good scope costs 3-5 barrels.

That math does work out pretty good on my ZCO 5-27 and my barrels...chambered and threaded...and cerakoted...and fluted.

 

[jasent]

Barrels are basically the razor blade heads of shooting. A good scope costs 3-5 barrels.

More folks need to realize this.

 

[Steel head]

More folks need to realize this.

My scope only cost 2x barrels

 

[b2lee]

My scope only cost 2x barrels

You'll join the ZCO Master Race one day

 

[jasent]

One of mine was only 75% (swfa) I’m talking about barrels being disposable

Every day I see folks worried about barrel life like holy crap I want my barrel to last 2-5k rounds. Even though the Barrel cost is a mere smidgen the cost to burn one out.

 

[Steel head]

One of mine was only 75% (swfa) I’m talking about barrels being disposable

Every day I see folks worried about barrel life like holy crap I want my barrel to last 2-5k rounds. Even though the Barrel cost is a mere smidgen the cost to burn one out.

Barrel life or performance.
pick one.
The super hot rod 338’s are lasting about 500 rounds
A 338 federal would possibly last a lifetime.

 

[b2lee]

just get a new 400MOD barrel from Bartlein...it may last that long WITH performance....I know I had to change my order yesterday.

 

[Steel head]

You'll join the ZCO Master Race one day

I bought the ability to never have to worry about needing more elevation again instead so technically I’m at a 3.3x ratio now.

 

[b2lee]

I'm at 29.1Mils of travel on my scope...with the 20MOA Rail and the 20MOA Spuhr....so...I needs a Charlie Tarac also to get me past 2700 yards.

 

[Steel head]

I'm at 29.1Mils of travel on my scope...with the 20MOA Rail and the 20MOA Spuhr....so...I needs a Charlie Tarac also to get me past 2700 yards.

Three week wait for mine.
order now.

 

[b2lee]

Three week wait for mine.
order now.

so....can you loan a brother a grand?...heh I have more stuff to buy on my list before the Charlie Tarac...I'm still eating Top Ramen from the Autotrickler V3.

 

[Steel head]

so....can you loan a brother a grand?...heh I have more stuff to buy on my list before the Charlie Tarac...I'm still eating Top Ramen from the Autotrickler V3.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Steel head’s formula for easy mode to 1500 yards affordably without needing perfect conditions.
2800+ FPS.
A quality bullet with a G7 at .350ish or better preferably above 175 grains for easier spotting.

would that mean 300WSM?


@Steel head complete the below equation

7SAUM ? 300WSM < or >

 

[Steel head]

would that mean 300WSM?


@Steel head complete the below equation

7SAUM ? 300WSM < or >

A guy recently got about two miles with a 300WSM.
I might try 3500 tomorrow if 3000 goes well.

 

[b2lee]

So...we will rename the thread "A Good 1500 x 2 Yard Caliber"

 

[Steel head]

So...we will rename the thread "A Good 1500 x 2 Yard Caliber"

Well honestly I’m a bit under gunned for 3000 but but I think Mighty Mouse 7 Midget Stipper Magnum is certainly capable from what I’ve seen at 2600+

 

[acudaowner]

the air rifle world record is supposed to be 1400 yards , add another 100 yard on and they are supposed to have excellent barrel life
you could shoot 1500 yards and set a world record doing it not mention the added benifit you could make your own ammo and get a foot pump to refill the gun , that has to be cheaper than ammo cost , and cleaning products no carbon or copper just lead .

 

[Longshot231]

You could try using a Sharps 50-90. Billy Dixon used it to make a successful shot at a Comanche warrior from 1,538 yards away in June of 1874 at the Battle of Adobe Walls.

 

[jasent]

Basically it comes down to windage. Hold 1-3 moa or hold a foot ball field What ever works for you. If you like holding less wind go big

 

[Bolo]

300WSM, 300WM, 7WSM, 338 Lapua, 338 Edge, 338 Lapua AI, 280 Rem, 280 Rem AI..... There's a ton of them that will reliably make 1500.

Been shooting 280 Rem since I was 13... handloads and 168 SMKs will definitely make it out past 1K, but I definitely wouldn't call it optimal or easy. Personally, I'm warming up to 7 SAUM for my next rifle.

 

[steve podleski]

The bigger the target, the longer the barrel life.