I'll start looking for a bolt so I can hopefully support this project in the near future
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Bout to be the baddest 223 AI trainer on the planetMine should arrive tomorrow. Thanks Greg.
I've gotten the same answer from them too. Hopefully with enough of us looking it can get something going. In the meantime, I feel it is not wise to potentially damage something else that would need replacement. And again this is my opinion.I get what you are saying but I have been looking for one for some time and have come up dry. Tried Euro and Mile High again and they said nope. They couldnt estimate a time in the future when they might get one from AI.
Same@Bugholes Will the firing pin protrusion vary from the 308 bolt or should we be able to use the same firing pin for both?
Thanks
Technically you can, that’s what I do. But as mentioned the roll pins are the weak part. With enough in & out they either weaken and split become to small to provide tension to the holes, eventually working themselves loose.so I can get a bolt head from you and change that out on my bolt body and can go back and fourth to my .308 bolt head without problems? If that is correct can you pm me or something so I can get that and a barrel going and get me a 223 trainer?
So if they come a little lose, I can just get some more roll pins and replace the worn ones? Thing is, I always talk about shooting a lot but for the most part, once I put a barrel on or get rounds ready, that is all I shoot for a while. If I did get the bolt head, I probably would not change it out but a few times a yr. The 223 is just so much cheaper to shoot than the rest and I have a metric crap ton of high end 223 bullets already.
Please pm me with info on what the bolt head, mag and barrel would cost. Thank you, RG
Tom,FYI
We never sell bolt heads or bolt bodies without a bolt head to anyone. We strongly recommend that nobody change one of our bolt heads as this is a serious safety concern.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
If you guys keep advancing the AI platform like this you'll eventually turn it into a TL3.
Daaaaaannnnnnggggggg.I bet there's three more ATX's sitting at Mile High with dead triggers than there are TL3's that don't extract up there
Damn dude, you’ve been feisty as hell latelyI bet there's three more ATX's sitting at Mile High with dead triggers than there are TL3's that don't extract up there
There are very light 2 stage triggers for multiple platforms that are very reliable.... No reason to not ask for and expect AI to be able to produce one. It's unfortunate that people are having problems with them but I don't think AI should ditch the idea. They should just fix it or start over because the fact is most people prefer sub 1lb triggers for comps whether you think it's needed or not.They just need to stop with the Aftermarket United States Competition trigger and return to the original UK AI Trigger
It was the comp shooters that fucked it up because they can't handle the extra stage so they need a "new" trigger and that trigger was never right... no disrespect to Todd, but ... you all asked for it. You deserve the problems you created. I own 10 AI rifles and not a single one has a comp trigger and not a single one has gone down.
I would never touch a comp trigger in an AI, change it out for an original, and that ATX will be all it's advertised to be... the competition people are fucking idiots and forced a change that was never needed, you asked, they provided now you don't like it
Glove or no glove?I meant to be tongue in cheek but .....facts is facts....
There are very light 2 stage triggers for multiple platforms that are very reliable.... No reason to not ask for and expect AI to be able to produce one. It's unfortunate that people are have problems with them but I don't think AI should ditch the idea. They should just fix it or start over because the fact is most people prefer sub 1lb triggers for comps whether you think it's needed or not.
I guess we can agree to disagree but whether or not they produce it they put their name on it. So it's up to AI to fix the problem by asking him to fix it, going somewhere else, or making it themselves.Tom Myers makes it, it's a CG Jackson trigger, it was never right, he supplies the military some triggers tell him, not AI
PS not to ruin this post but I may or may not have a 224 Bolt Head coming for my AI
I am going Valkyrie with one
They just need to stop with the Aftermarket United States Competition trigger and return to the original UK AI Trigger
It was the comp shooters that fucked it up because they can't handle the extra stage so they need a "new" trigger and that trigger was never right... no disrespect to Todd, but ... you all asked for it. You deserve the problems you created. I own 10 AI rifles and not a single one has a comp trigger and not a single one has gone down.
I would never touch a comp trigger in an AI, change it out for an original, and that ATX will be all it's advertised to be... the competition people are fucking idiots and forced a change that was never needed, you asked, they provided now you don't like it
I just got into first Ai with the ATX so yall educate me here...Loctite it or replace it
Is this just on one’s you adjust or also AT-X’s from the factory?One could imply they lost the ASR and the MRAD won it because the Trigger
and it's the same trigger ...
Some people reported the screw backs out and the adjustment creeps so use nail polish and hit the screws after you have it adjusted correctly
Isn't that what everybody does with every trigger anyway...?One could imply they lost the ASR and the MRAD won it because the Trigger
and it's the same trigger ...
Some people reported the screw backs out and the adjustment creeps so use nail polish and hit the screws after you have it adjusted correctly
I’ll take the ability to shoot 223 firstNot to derail this thread further....but why don't all of us AI shooters band together and ask AI to partner with Triggertech and have them do what they do best...develop a light and safe trigger. It's the last thing missing from this great platform!
I swear this exact idea was brought up like 3-4 years ago, just before the comp trigger was announced, and it got zero traction with TTNot to derail this thread further....but why don't all of us AI shooters band together and ask AI to partner with Triggertech and have them do what they do best...develop a light and safe trigger. It's the last thing missing from this great platform!
Is this bolt from Ai or someone else?...I’ll let you know how my Valkyrie works…
Can you explain why this is a safety concern?FYI
We never sell bolt heads or bolt bodies without a bolt head to anyone. We strongly recommend that nobody change one of our bolt heads as this is a serious safety concern.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
it's not gonna happen in our lifetimes lolCan you explain why this is a safety concern?
Any ideas on when you might be producing the 223 components through Ai?
I am starting to see that many folks are fed up with waiting on Ai to come to market with stuff...it's not gonna happen in our lifetimes lol
We at AI manufacture bolt heads and bolt bodies to our designs. These designs have been tested with barrel block testing to prove they are safe.Can you explain why this is a safety concern?
Any ideas on when you might be producing the 223 components through Ai?
Tom,We at AI manufacture bolt heads and bolt bodies to our designs. These designs have been tested with barrel block testing to prove they are safe.
The bolt head material is a very high tensile strength steel which is also very expensive. We assemble those components to our process and every bolt is proof tested in a CIP Proof House in England. We have built tens of thousands of these over the years and continue to produce them daily.
If someone outside of AI tampers with one of our bolt heads then that is a safety concern. Our designs will have been changed, it is unlikely they have had barrel block testing and they almost certainly do not undergo proof testing.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
We have a list of projects currently in development and the AT-X family is a part of that. Currently a 223 version is not included but that is not an indication we will not be considering it in the future.Tom,
With all that information you just provided and seeing that there is such a demand for a 223 bolt for AI that it has forced the aftermarket to create one, is there a reason we have not seen a 223 bolt available for purchase? Thanks
Thank you for the explanation and I was personally unaware to what lengths you guys go in pressure testing......These designs have been tested with barrel block testing to prove they are safe...
...It is unlikely they have had barrel block testing and they almost certainly do not undergo proof testing...
With the number of impatient folks (myself included frequently) I can understand this position as well, and appreciate that you don't plan to turn something out without due diligence....I do not want to state that we will have a 223 and then have to read about how long it is going to take etc...
...New product development is not as simple as many people think if it is being done properly...
TRUTH!New product development is not as simple as many people think if it is being done properly.
Bet all have that unbreakable comp triggerAll them new ATX owners keeping that shit on the down low
1 off customIs this bolt from Ai or someone else?...
pm sent lolI wonder how much I can sell my original AI trigger for right now to an ATX user?