AI bolt pics

[ROLEXrifleman]

Later in teh sumer I'll do a full breakdown. Just wanted to show some bolts since I was cleaning house today.

Any true AI aficionados wanna point out the odd man out?

Or better yet, take the quiz... name the bolts and caliber from top to bottom.

 

[johndoe]

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Aw50,AWSM.338,AE 308,AW308,AE 308 ????

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johndoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aw50,AWSM.338,AE 308,AW308,AE 308 ???? </div></div>

Nope. If it was that easy I wouldnt have posted.

And no trick question either, I don't own any .243, or any other caliber like that. Bread and butter in teh pick!

 

[johndoe]

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Pm with the right ones please.

 

[Baldmonk01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ROLEXrifleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Later in teh sumer I'll do a full breakdown. Just wanted to show some bolts since I was cleaning house today.

Any true AI aficionados wanna point out the odd man out?

Or better yet, take the quiz... name the bolts and caliber from top to bottom.

</div></div>

AW 50
AWM
AE with a AWM bolt head (why?)
AW
AE

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Baldmonk01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
AW 50
AWM
AE with a AWM bolt head (why?)
AW
AE </div></div>

Negative

 

[savage110]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ROLEXrifleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Baldmonk01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
AW 50
AWM
AE with a AWM bolt head (why?)
AW
AE </div></div>

Negative </div></div>
Then please elaborate, or atleast post pics of all these rifles, firearm porn at its finest!

 

[jeo556]

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Forget about what rifles those bolts belong to. I want to know what you do for a living that you own that many AI's. I'm going to be up all night because of that photo.

 

[deadly0311]

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the third bolt down looks to be a non AI, that had a handle installed to match the AI bolts, possibly Tikka? Bolt handle ball is obviously larger than the real AI, and it looks to be press fitted together were you can see the seam.

 

[MEDICGORDO]

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odd one has to be an older AI,but its not an AE MK1 OR MK2 bolt look at the safety and the knob.is it an AIPM ?

 

[TBass]

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Third one down has my vote!

 

[AIAWinAU]

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Here we go - easy as - but only if you have been around AI's for a few years I guess.

1. AW50

2. AWSM

3. Ah - here there be a rare beastie - it's from a Cooper ( as in Malcolm ) Varmitmaster / CISM target rifle. AE type cocking piece ( or as it predates the AE maybe that terminology is sequentially flawed ) & 2 rows of locking lugs.

4. AW

5. AE

Can we please have a pic of the rifle that #3 belongs to ?

 

[aam]

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I'm with tikkat3 on this one,
with bolt #3.

1.AW50
2.AW300WM
3. CISM target rifle 308
4.AW308
5.AE308

Regards, Albert.

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

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3rd one down is truly one of the rarer AI bolts. Nice pic's and good teaser!

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

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Nice...... the Fat Medic from LA. started the ball rolling on the correct answer and the boys from across the pond and the land down under finished it off.


here's the tour of the AI AT ( Bad pick, but the better stuff is coming in teh summer)

1) safety ala AE yet years ahead of it. You have either safe or fire with the ability to manipulate the bolt. Major diffrence is the safty lever itself. AE has a lever while this one has a knurled roll over.

Also, as stated, the bolt knob itself is larger than the AE and AW we know today.

2) Iron sights. This model was also designed with iron sights in mind. You can see the reciever is marked for adjustment of the rear sight and teh muzzle is turned down to accept the front sight. Hey Stacey, you find me a set of sights yet?

3) Details. They pay attention! Notice how the action is curved to match the contour of the safety shroud. While teh AE is a diffrent beast notice how it's shroud is not matched by the tube reciever.

4) The best part... the action. While mostly the same action of the AW (short action). the MAJOR diffrence is teh fact that this rifle is a 6 lug bolt head as opposed to 3 lug. Yes.. you read right, this short action .308 uses a 6 lug bolt head.... OVERKILL AI style! And all this in FACTORY configuartion. The only serial # missing is the bolt shroud, which at the time did not get serial #'ed otherwise thi sis a #'s matching gun!

5) the trigger. Same trigger as the AW although AI offerered a Target trigger at the time. Stacey, you find me an original yet?? LOL seriously.... get on that man, it's been 4 years!



Extra Credit Question:

What information is missing on teh rifle?


And for fun, here's what a .338 bolt head looks like next to the .50

 

[00037]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ROLEXrifleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Extra Credit Question:

What information is missing on teh rifle?</div></div>
The NATO supplier number: U4393


Off-topic q... what are the red dots for on the AW50 bolt and receiver?

 

[00037]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ROLEXrifleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5) the trigger. Same trigger as the AW although AI offerered a Target trigger at the time. Stacey, you find me an original yet?? LOL seriously.... get on that man, it's been 4 years!</div></div>
Are you referring to this trigger (as seen on one of Stacey's rigs)?

(click image to enlarge)


If so, I've been looking for one, too.

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

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Natoo # isnt the answer.

Also, I believe the trigger pictured is one of the NEW target triggers in testing. the older triggers were not black, at least the ones I have seen.

 

[00037]

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Ahh... NATO # was a WAG anyway.

 

[bonneville]

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The red dot are overpressure blow out plugs.

 

[00037]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bonneville</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The red dot are overpressure blow out plugs. </div></div>
Good to know. Thank you.

 

[MEDICGORDO]

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It is not stamped with the U.S. city and state that imported the rifle.

 

[MEDICGORDO]

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Also why is it stamped .308 win and not 7.62x51

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MedicGordo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also why is it stamped .308 win and not 7.62x51 </div></div>

I've never seen a bolt marked that way.I'll check my AW tonight.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MedicGordo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is not stamped with the U.S. city and state that imported the rifle. </div></div>

Winner Winner chicken dinner!!!!!!!!

 

[M4-Pilot]

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Wow, learn something new every day. I never realized that those red "dots" were overpressure blowout plugs. THAT is attention to detail at its finest. Hey Rolex, where here in Indiana are you? IM me if you would.

 

[Lt. Arclight]

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Nice Rolex,outstanding collection. Oh and you suck,I'm in the process of cleaning my AIAW 338LM and took a break to check out the Hide. Now I feel inferior.

 

[SRT_Supply]

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Interesting photos, and fascinating quiz - I guessed most of it, but I'm still wondering about the 308 barrel designation.

Is the magazine just the standard 10rd AW mag, or was it modified in any way?

 

[desertHK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lt. Arclight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice Rolex,outstanding collection. Oh and you suck,I'm in the process of cleaning my AIAW 338LM and took a break to check out the Hide. Now I feel inferior.

</div></div>
Lt. Don't feel too bad. I feel the same way too when I look at that collection. Damn it, I am going to have to get the AW50 to complete the collection. Oh may be an AIAE in 243 just for the hell of it. (After I win the lottery of course.)

 

[Lt. Arclight]

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Having ONE is better than having NONE.

 

[Accurifle]

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Another AI bolt quiz.

I am still newB in this forum and has never posted pics.
Crossing fngers for my first attempt.

Name the models.
I guess this is difficult since these models are not familiar in the US. Euro members might have a chance.

 

[SRT_Supply]

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L96A1?

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

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L96A1 for top
G22 .300WM bottom

 

[Accurifle]

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Half correct!
The bottom is G22 .300 WM.

The top is not L96A1 but very close. Made using the same or similar action in the same era.

Carefully check the bolt knob.

 

[Accurifle]

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As Stacey answered, the bottom one is of G22.
This is known as a German military sniper rifle.

The top one is of AI 300 meter competition rifle.

The action, the bolt, and the trigger guard are almost the same as L96A1 except this rifle is a single shot and does not have a safety, and their color.

And, to ROLEXrifleman, I have a similar rifle as your AT but mine has an interesting action. Here.

Yes, this AT target rifle line is designated as "Coopermatch" series.

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

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yeap, I knew the bolt knob looked different and could not see the safety, but good one. That is a nice rifle and have only seen a few in my years. Thanks for sharing.

 

[aam]

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To ROLEXman and Accurifle,

Thanks for the pics, it's great to see how the AI rifle has progressed over the years.

Regards,

Albert

 

[Charliehorse794]

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Nice write up. Got to love AI, I know I do!!

 

[Timo Turl]

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I have yet to take my bolt apart on my AI. Just wondering how often this should be done and do i need a specific AI bolt take-down tool or will any do ? Thx

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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If you are talking about just pulling the Firing Pin, then place the rifle on safe, remove the bolt and unscrew the shroud.

If you are talking about detail stripping, then I don't know. I have not been to the armorer's course yet.

 

[Timo Turl]

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To be honest i don't know which approach I'm talking about because I don't know which approach is broadly sensible and recommended to ensure a clean, debris free mechanism. I don't want to strip it for the sake of it but I guess there comes a point where i need to do one or the other and I'm curious to know what AI (presume this is covered on the armourer's course...anyone) or others might suggest.

 

[bm11]

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TJ, you should periodically field strip your bolt- place it on "safe", remove from the rifle, press the spring loaded detent on the side, and rotate the bolt counter clockwise.

Clean the firing pin, lightly lubricate it, and lubricate the cocking mechanism on the bolt. Doesn't take long and that's all you really should have to do.

As an aside- what a cool thread. I am a huge AI fan and this thread was great for me. Thank you, rolexrifleman, and I wish I had caught this months ago.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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Due to the ease that the bolt field strips I inspect and wipe off the FP whenever I wipe down the bolt.

 

[Timo Turl]

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Thx guys, sounds like i should be doing it more than i have

 

[punkpigpen]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Accurifle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As Stacey answered, the bottom one is of G22.
This is known as a German military sniper rifle.

The top one is of AI 300 meter competition rifle.

The action, the bolt, and the trigger guard are almost the same as L96A1 except this rifle is a single shot and does not have a safety, and their color.

And, to ROLEXrifleman, I have a similar rifle as your AT but mine has an interesting action. Here.

Yes, this AT target rifle line is designated as "Coopermatch" series. </div></div>

WOW can i please see more pics of that wood stock rifle?? please?

 

[Accurifle]

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Sorry punkpigpen, I haven't come here for a while.
Here are my AI target paper punchers. All are single shot.
AI target punchers are famous for their Walther GX-1 copy stocks as well as lots of medals late Malcolm Cooper got with Walther .22 punchers. However in their later history of target puncher project, as you can see, Anschutz wood stocks had also been adopted.

Bedding job of the last one.

 

[Whit]

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This is interesting to know the differance. I like to learn this stuff. Lets keep going.

 

[hewlett260]

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After seeing that i need a new set of underwear, and refinance my house to get a loan for another AW or maybe a little more modern with the AX. Either way, very nice collections. I can trade you my soul for one if you are interested?

 

[sweet17]

I noticed that you have a lot of experience with AI rifles. I bought an AI AX (6.5CM) last year (my first bolt gun), and I'm surprised at how little maintenance and lubrication the bolt requires...according to the Owner's manual. Do you mind me asking how often you clean and lubricate your AI bolts? Just a little CLP or maybe a thin bit of grease on the locking lugs and cams? How often (if ever...I got the impression from lowlight that you rarely need to clean or lube the firing pin and spring) do you like to remove the shroud and clean/lube the firing pin and spring?

I appreciate any advise you can give me.

Later in teh sumer I'll do a full breakdown. Just wanted to show some bolts since I was cleaning house today.

Any true AI aficionados wanna point out the odd man out?

Or better yet, take the quiz... name the bolts and caliber from top to bottom.

 

[ROLEXrifleman]

I have gone in excess of 1K rounds between disassemble of the bolts. I generally run 2 or three range sessions b4 I even pull them out to wipe off. and then it's just as I stated, wipe them off with a rag that has a bit of G96 oil on it. Never an issue in the years I have run AI.