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AI chassis for Anschutz
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Suffer or skip to 53.25 Scott shows a 54.18 MSR in a pre-production prototype AT-X AICS and mentions that the Anshutz Fortner 1727F fits also
You could always use the MDT chassis with your 1710
Anschutz sell the MDT chassis
1710 MDT ACC Chassis Only (CBG) Carbon Gray
Anschutz Importation for North America
www.anschutznorthamerica.com
I can import it from the US myself through my regular US export service, but that would be ridiculous for a european chassis for a european gun. Frankly it turns me off to the idea and I may as well import another Vudoo and put it in a 700 AI chassis which I can buy locally.
Yeah I already do but all my other rifles are AI's so be nice to have commonality in the chassis.You could always use the MDT chassis with your 1710
I agree in general on import but for some reason I think they are able to do Anschutz cheaper from ANA vs other American stuff. Last time I checked on the 1710 competition barreled action, they were able to do them reasonably when compared to a normal Germany 1710 classic. It was something like 1.3k GBP barreled action with the new lightweight trigger, stainless 23 barrel and "comp" chamber.
Out of interest, how much are the v22s imported?
I have a Vudoo in an ai ax. Love it. But would really like the the Annie in an ai.
Anschutz North America seem to have their finger on the pulse way more than Anschutz in Germany. ANA has offered aluminium stocked 1710's as an option for years but not the main factory in Europe. I don't know why but in Europe stainless steel barrels are never sold either. The 1761 is crying out for a more modern stock also - something with a pistol grip, adjustable cheekpiece, adjustable butt plate, but light weight as in Europe there can be much tighter weight limits for sporters (4.5kg NSRA, 4.76kg NASRPC)
I agree, ANA seems much more interested in changing customer interests. The main office seem intent on focusing on the dying diopter sports while completely ignoring an emerging market. In our next PRS22 competition there will be a Vudoo in a Spuhr chassis on display while Anschutz flat out refuses to even sell us a product they are manufacturing instead of having a stand and showing their stuff.
Vudoo's in an AT-X AICS are nice, and yes I've shot one.
An Anshutz 1727F in the AT-X AICS is going to hurt lots of feelings on match day.
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I think it's probably a case of them thinking they own the Olympics style stuff and just focus on milking that, would be interested to see the revenue and margin split for them on the different products.
Still it feels unhealthy for them not to think about new revenue streams especially when it seems there is minimal investment involved.
I wonder if there's also much politics in the whole ANA doing their own stuff outside Germany.
Still it feels unhealthy for them not to think about new revenue streams especially when it seems there is minimal investment involved.
I wonder if there's also much politics in the whole ANA doing their own stuff outside Germany.
Thinking is right. I know sponsorship plays a big part in what an athlete shoots but if you look at what most of the top ISSF/Olympic shooters are using they are not Anschutz rifles any more. I'm not in any way suggesting the rifles aren't good guns, it's just that you'll see many Bleikers, Grunig & Elmigers and Walthers and only an occasional Anschutz at the very top level of ISSF shooting.
Plainly put, no there’s no politics. If there are any hint of politics it’s between the engineers over there. I don’t know if you’ve worked with German companies, but they are quick to inquire and take their time to act and make sure it’s right. The German CEO will do what we want 99% of the time and they use us as a test bed for stuff. They are looking at other revenue streams within the shooting sports, mainly the PRS/NRL stuff. We are the driving force behind most of this stuff and then Germany comes in behind. @Hegre i believe your phone call or email to the factory may have spurred them in this direction as they see the demand for the 54.18 and AI chassis. The reason you likely got the response was, at the time the US was going to be the only market with 54.18s and will likely be the only one outside of the factory.
As for the 1761, there may be a cost effective “PRS/NRL” stock coming soon.
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Thanks for the insight. Good to know they are dipping in this, hopefully this will get taken up with the German side as well.
I have actually worked with Germans both people and businesses before (in Automotive) but have had a very different experience with a certain large manufacturer although some of their brands were not German so perhaps that explains it. In any case it's probably not good to generalise anyway.
For the 54.18, I doubt it. The only chassis in the pipeline for the 54.18 right now is the AI. The 1710 Comp is a great rifle and fits in the XLR chassis.
@deadly0311 Thank you for your answer, will the 54.18 have a threaded action like the 2007/2013 or will it be pinned?
Personally, I can’t wait for these to become available.
I’ve tried and tried to find a non-thumbhole McMillan stock for one of my 54.18’s so I can use it in NRL22/PRS style matches with no luck.
McMillan will build one, but only after I ship them the barreled action and wait 12-18 months, if I’m lucky…at least that’s what I was told.
Nobody wants to inlet a McMillan or Manners for a 1727F either, so mine gets shot in other style matches, but never NRL22/PRS.
I’ve tried and tried to find a non-thumbhole McMillan stock for one of my 54.18’s so I can use it in NRL22/PRS style matches with no luck.
McMillan will build one, but only after I ship them the barreled action and wait 12-18 months, if I’m lucky…at least that’s what I was told.
Nobody wants to inlet a McMillan or Manners for a 1727F either, so mine gets shot in other style matches, but never NRL22/PRS.
I'd rather have the 10-round magazines (talked about last year at this time) so I'm not behind the timing curve to start with.
Yes, I'm talking about the 1761 magazines.
As a left hander I don't have a lot of choices for bolt action .22LR rifles. There was Savage, Anschutz, and Vudoo at the time. Bergara was not yet importing the left handed version of the B-14R and I do not like the feel of the Savage bolt action. Vudoo's had (and still have) a lengthy wait period due to their popularity. So I called ANA and discussed he 1761 series. I was told that the 10-round magazines were in the final stages of design and production so I bought a 1761 Classic and told them that I really wanted an MPR if they ever got one in left handed - they laughed and we agreed that it was pretty far fetched. About 30 days later I get a call and there is a left handed MPR on the incoming shipment and was I still interested. One sucking debit card wound later, I had an MPR inbound with the assurance that the 10-round magazines would be in a shipment shortly.
My MPR is the most accurate .22LR that I own with the Vudoo and then the Classic separated by tenths of an MOA. They are the finest safe queens that I own. I was tempted to bring the MPR out for a local informal bullseye match but the stages are 10 rounds on a short clock.
I had visions of the Classic being the back-up to my MPR but now I'm talking to GCP about another Vudoo.
As a left hander I don't have a lot of choices for bolt action .22LR rifles. There was Savage, Anschutz, and Vudoo at the time. Bergara was not yet importing the left handed version of the B-14R and I do not like the feel of the Savage bolt action. Vudoo's had (and still have) a lengthy wait period due to their popularity. So I called ANA and discussed he 1761 series. I was told that the 10-round magazines were in the final stages of design and production so I bought a 1761 Classic and told them that I really wanted an MPR if they ever got one in left handed - they laughed and we agreed that it was pretty far fetched. About 30 days later I get a call and there is a left handed MPR on the incoming shipment and was I still interested. One sucking debit card wound later, I had an MPR inbound with the assurance that the 10-round magazines would be in a shipment shortly.
My MPR is the most accurate .22LR that I own with the Vudoo and then the Classic separated by tenths of an MOA. They are the finest safe queens that I own. I was tempted to bring the MPR out for a local informal bullseye match but the stages are 10 rounds on a short clock.
I had visions of the Classic being the back-up to my MPR but now I'm talking to GCP about another Vudoo.
The 1761 is a great rifle, I don't understand why they haven't been popular and sold more in the US. Maybe they don't promote it much or maybe as it's a replacement for the 64 series there's a reluctance for people to "downgrade". Mine has done very well for me in our 50m and 100m prone shooting competitions and gives up nothing to 54 actioned rifles.
You and me both. I’ve been begging and pleading with them for quite some time. We are told there are some coming to us in an air shipment in the next couple weeks.
Support?What a great combination… LH Fortner action…, recognizing AI’s support of us Lefties
Tell me your secrets as I don’t get any
It’s in the testing phase. We’re looking at a late summer early fall hopefully.
Still looking like the same combo: match 54 action repeater with the 50 series trigger group compatibility? If I may suggest, push for a non threaded barrel option…
Yes. It’s the 54.18. Match 54 repeater with the 5018. 2 different barrel lengths. 20” threaded and 25” straight cylinder non threaded.
Barreled actions are here in the warehouse just waiting to be paired to chassis systems
Barreled Actions
Factory Rifles Limited Run Rifles Meister Grade Rifles Canyon Creek Rifles Anniversary Models Rimfire Trainer Series
www.anschutznorthamerica.com
Didn't you make yourself a 54 match repeater a while ago? What happened to that rifle?
Yes, I did. I sold it to one of the guys who are working on this project. I have bad gun ADD, this was one the the most accurate rimfire rifles I have ever owned…
Very interesting, these are using a sandwiched recoil lug as opposed to the mortise in the action and tenon in the stock. How has the accuracy of the backbored muzzle been compared to the standard crown? What blanks are being used, Anschutz or someone else?Yes. It’s the 54.18. Match 54 repeater with the 5018. 2 different barrel lengths. 20” threaded and 25” straight cylinder non threaded.
Barreled actions are here in the warehouse just waiting to be paired to chassis systems
Barreled Actions
Factory Rifles Limited Run Rifles Meister Grade Rifles Canyon Creek Rifles Anniversary Models Rimfire Trainer Serieswww.anschutznorthamerica.com
I was told the AI chassis will use the "mortise and tenon" style recoil lug so it's compatible with Fortner actions like the 1927f/1827f. I guess there will need to be a relief cut for the 1710 style recoil lug as well?
The mortised lug is still there and that’s what the AI chassis will index off of. The sandwiched lug pocket will be for clearance. The accuracy between the two has been almost identical. The barrels are factory produced Anschutz barrels.
I thought the AI chassis was just for the Fortner actions? Is it going to support the 1710 as well?
Even if the AI chassis accepts the 1710 recoil lug the action screw spacing is completely different, so no. They went with the ACC for the 1710.
