Re: Ak-47 vs. Ar-15 For Only Rifle?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cramey74</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If you use a good barrel good reciever and good parts kit and assemble correct I.E install barrel correct,correct site alignment etc..an AK shoots very well albeit not a bench gun accurate enough to get the job done...AK's are not as easy to shoot well as an AR but once you spend some time with them they are deadly...Don't get me wrong I have several AR's and love them for all the same reasons everyone has one..but you simply can't deny the AK I used to be an AK hater too but after shooting a GOOD ONE I simply had to have one...just my .02 </div></div>
I'm not an AK hater(though I hated mine). And I think there's a <span style="font-style: italic">huge</span> difference between a "good parts kit" and a top-tier weapon(like bcm/lmt/colt). A S&W or Stag is put together with a "good parts kit"; and I still wouldn't call them a top-tier-weapon.
I haven't looked at Tactical Response at all, so I don't know of their build quality; but I know all the non-custom/non-semi-custom AK's I've seen are just that, "good parts kits". Mak-90's, Bulgy's, etc. There is still a big difference in my mind between a "good parts kit" and a Top-Tier-Weapon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cramey74</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the Tactical Response website....
Nothing wrong with it.
inaccurate? Step out to 500M and give me a mag.
<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">Right, that's battlefield accuracy, minute of man. The OP was referring to hunting, and I was referring to 400 yard hunting shots with an AK.</span></span>
Complicated? Ive seen 12 year olds on the two way range...with AK's.
<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">AR's aren't that complicated either.</span></span>
This cheap, simple, easy to maintain gun has killed alot of bad mother fuckers. I have a nice scar on my leg from some "amateur" who used this "cheap" gun to tattoo my "professional" ass.
<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">Still not what I'm referring to.</span></span>
I prefer the M-4.
My enemy uses the AK, so i spend alot of time learning how to use it. I have been forced to use the AK, in combat. Some guys, far more experienced than I, prefer the AK.
Who makes a good one? Whoever follows Mr. Kalishnikov's design, uses the proper material and process. And whoever wont allow shit to bear their name. The AK??? works. sorry, its true. </div></div>
Right, but that's still the "good parts kit" quality. I'm asking of Top-Tier AK quality.......and no, not red jacket academy quality either.....
Thank you for your service! We are on the same page, just on different paragraphs...hehehe. I totally agree with learning enemy weapons and tactics. I'm not poo-poo-ing the weapon platform itself. I'm just trying to understand what a $1300 Top-Tier AK is really put together with.
All to try to help the OP. I believe the AK to be more of a battlefield weapon, and not of the hunting precision variation. I do believe the AR to be able to serve both rolls. This is not only the platform itsself, but the 7.62x39 round as well. I don't believe the round(in russian form) or the platform is capable to make an ethical 400 yard shot on game. I do believe the AR platform in 6.8spc or 7.62X51 with the proper round/bbl length CAN make an ethical shot on game at 400 yards. And the AR platform makes that possible. And by game, I mean medium game, which is what I'm assuming this is all about.
Edit: I believe the 5.56 to accurately make 400 yard shots on game as well, just smaller game/varmits. I know plenty people on The 'Hide have taken far longer shots on prarie dogs or 'yotes.
