Went up this morning with a buddy to the spot he killed his Buck yesterday ostensibly to find his pocket knife and maybe get me a deer . We were messing around watching some Elk on the side of the mountain when I spotted a Doe closer to us and when I dropped my Binocs the Buck was even closer . Probably 100 yards or less quartering shot . The 165 SST destroyed the shoulder , took out the lung and then deposited itself neatly on the far side under the hide . Never did find that darn pocket knife though .