Rifle Scopes Am I doing something wrong or is it just me.

[2ndamendfan]

So I have had this question for a long time and hesitated to ask, but I have searched and found nothing.

When I first started to follow this web site (few years, joined in 2010 and until a couple days ago was near 350 post count) I just watched and observed trying to learn and one thing I noticed is that there was/is a near universal position to mount the scope. So I followed (no better way to learn) and have mounted my scopes accordingly.

Lets start with the AR's. So first thing I do is get a Larue 20moa cantilever mount. believing that they make it and it seems to be a very popular design so it will work. Well I have to tell you that I have no clue how how some of you shoot with you nose on the charging handle so I moved it back as far as I could and moved the scope back also. It just seems that I have to "crane" or stretch my neck forward to get a good view through the scope, it would not bother me if I could move the scope back about 2". So I read all about the "high end scopes" and bight the bullet and get a Vortex Razor and a ADDLAND mount for it. I have to say that i would have never guessed how big a difference from a $300 scope to a $2000 scope there is. It really opened my eyes and I am a believer. This did help the problem but it would be nice if I could move the scope back about another 1". It is the most noticeable in the prone position, I am stretching forward to get a full view. I am not truly relaxed behind the gun. this is a 24" AR-15. ( I have other AR's and scopes and mounts and it is the same)

So with my FN PBR, basicly the same problem. I am running a IOR 3.5x18x50 as far back as I can and still in the prone position I have to stretch my neck 1/2 to 1" to get a good full sight picture.

Now I know we are all built different, but there are also certain ways things are done. like holding a baseball bat or a golf club.

Maybe this is how it is for everyone and everyone just lives with it.

 

[ajwcotton]

If you have a mount with 0 cant then you you could mount it backwards. You could also try to lengthen you length of pull on your stocks.

 

[VJJPunisher]

what type of stock is on the AR? seems ya just need to get a shorter stock or adjustable stock, which there are a few quality adjustable stocks out there

How big an ole boy are ya? I havent ever had an issue feeling like I'm goosenecking on an A2 stock but i dont feel i have orangatang arms either. Point is, you won't ever shoot to the rifles or your abilities if your not comfortable.

 

[2ndamendfan]

what type of stock is on the AR? seems ya just need to get a shorter stock or adjustable stock, which there are a few quality adjustable stocks out there

How big an ole boy are ya? I havent ever had an issue feeling like I'm goosenecking on an A2 stock but i dont feel i have orangatang arms either. Point is, you won't ever shoot to the rifles or your abilities if your not comfortable.

Magpul PRS on the AR, Factory stock on the FN PBR. with the PRS set as it shortest I feel all cramped on the rifle. This may be why, I am 6' 1" 280lbs. But I have the same inseam as my 5' 6" father, all my height is in my back, but my arms are long. This may be just somthing on how I am built. I agree to shoot the best you should be comfortable. I will say this if I set the gun down on the bipod and get behind it prone and all comfortable where the rifle feels the good, and then look through the scope I have about 3/4 may be a little more picture ( dark ring around the outside) if I gooseneck about 3/4-1" I get a full picture.

Is there a standard way to measure for LOP?

I have an XLR chassis on order for a Savage build I am doing, I just hope I can get it to fit me.

 

[tylerw02]

I don't shoot NTCH with my PRS stock. I run it like it were any other precision rifle stock.

There are some videos floating around on how to properly mount a scope for the individual. You should do that, assuming your FN doesn't have an adjustable LOP.

 

[samnev]

They only weapon I shoot close to the charging handle is my AR's with ACOG's and only because of the short eye relief (1.5") on the 4X ones I own. All my other scoped rifles are set up so that I eye proper eye relief with a full picture, no black ring doughnut visible. You should set up your scope in a way that is most comfortable for you. My brother has the same problem you do when it comes to mounting his scopes which is quite different than is considered the norm. But it works for him.

 

[Pinecone]

LOP is the distance from the trigger to the center of the butt plate.

Different scopes have different eye relief. And people are different sizes and shapes.

You need to mount the scope that your normal hold on the rifle puts your eye in the meat of the eye relief zone. I am able to get my scopes mounted to be this way.

You may need an extended rail or some other type of mount to make things work.