Anyone else doing basically anything they can to avoid paying new sales tax?

[TheGerman]

This bullshit started here first week of January. Since then, out of principle that I receive absolutely ZERO benefit in paying this tax on sales outside of the state, I’ve been doing anything I can to avoid paying it.

I’ve gotten creative and found s few crafty workarounds as well as started testing to see which vendors I usually buy from charge it and which don’t.

I’ll be honest, if the price is the same or similar and one is charging tax and the other isn’t, the guy that isn’t wins because that 7% or whatever can really add up quick.

Whoever figures out how to monitor your sales up until you reach the threshold of where you should be charging the tax, and then legally opens a new arms length entity to then take over the sales, this starting the calculation all over again, will win the Internet.

Sorry. Not sorry.

 

[ArmyJerry]

if i get charged tax I go buy local even if more expensive

Fuck amazon

 

[Mike Casselton]

I'll tell you what's worse than internet sales tax.
It's the Hillsborough County, FL residents voting to increase our tax 1.5% more (now 8.5%) to pay for school air conditioners which are already contracted for maintenance and repair. And the other 1% to pay for fucking public transportation that less than 15% if the county population uses.

Brother, I feel your pain.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

Paying for an arena here. Anything that is considered a "convenience" is taxed an extra 1.5%. This includes fast food, convenience stores and the like.

Scheels just opened a new store in town. The place is ginormous and has a ferris wheel and fish tank and what not to get people in there. I see it as more overhead, but whatever.

The city decided it's joe taxpayer's responsibility to pay for a parking ramp at this new fancy place so Scheels is forced to impose a 1% "Parking Tax" on all purchases to pay for it.

So now our only decent reloading supply store is being boycotted by yours truly in order to not pay the tax.

 

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Sales tax.....LOL.

 

[AIAW]

I hear you. We have an 8.25 percent sales tax. No state income tax, but still. They make that shit back 5x in the outrageous property taxes. Literally I pay (over 60 percent) for some twats children to go to school when I don't even have any myself. At least give me a little break, fuck.

I get it, pay the taxes, kid goes to school and then maybe, just maybe, becomes a productive member of society - somewhere. Well around here people are popping children out like 2020 is the last year you can have any. Not looking good for the tax futures.

 

[ArmyJerry]

That is why I will leave Tx in 3 years, they are going full commie with the taxes ere.

I hear you. We have an 8.25 percent sales tax. No state income tax, but still. They make that shit back 5x in the outrageous property taxes. Literally I pay (over 60 percent) for some twats children to go to school when I don't even have any myself. At least give me a little break, fuck.

I get it, pay the taxes, kid goes to school and then maybe, just maybe, becomes a productive member of society - somewhere. Well around here people are popping children out like 2020 is the last year you can have any. Not looking good for the tax futures.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

South Dakota vs. Wayfair. I agree with the judgement but of course I'm a state government revenuer. LOL. Best thing to do is go out and buy shit like in the old days instead of ordering shit online. What a pain in the ass that was.

 

[DuneBoer]

We don't have sales tax in Oregon. We do have every other fucking tax to make up for it though.

 

[AIAW]

That is why I will leave Tx in 3 years, they are going full commie with the taxes ere.

It's getting bad. I'm not sure where it's any better though currently.

 

[ArmyJerry]

about half the states are better than Texas when taxes and fees are added all in.

 

[Bender]

Wyoming taxes at 100% for everything. That’s right. 100%. It sucks. Try Colorado, they let you smoke ditch weed.

 

[Redmanss]

Wyoming taxes at 100% for everything. That’s right. 100%. It sucks. Try Colorado, they let you smoke ditch weed.

You'd think with all the sales tax they could at least pave a road or two. Rocks chipped the hell out of my Benz X5 and made it look like an old junky Explorer. I'm moving back to California ASAP, at least there they have common sense tax measures they put to good use for the less fortunate.

 

[Waknstak]

Build the fuckin wall round Cali too........

 

[thejeep]

Probably enough Mongolians in Ca to tear it down.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

Probably enough Mongolians in Ca to tear it down.

 

[MtnCreek]

This bullshit started here first week of January. Since then, out of principle that I receive absolutely ZERO benefit in paying this tax on sales outside of the state, ...

If it's the same as it is here, the tax is paid to your State, not the sellers State.

 

[Velocity Chad]

Missouri isn't collecting tax on internet purchases yet so I've been having stuff shipped to my office. I need to get out of this communist state of IL asap anyway. Il is fucked unless shitcago falls into the lake.

 

[Geno C.]

Pay for stuff from small shops with cash.

We’re at 5% in my county. You go up by Green Bay and they charge more to help the millionaire football players improve their stadium

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Each state is different. Amazon has to report and pay to each state that requires it based on each state's required forms. The problem is getting online sellers to report correctly. Also, the cost of serving as a tax collector for each state will increase the costs of goods. It is very expensive to have new accounting and IT divisions devoted entirely to sales tax reporting. Most states belong to the Multi-State Tax Commission. This will help reduce costs for member states in developing compliance. But the case was a boom for state revenue overall.

 

[XLR308]

When I ordered my viper vice and an action wrench from PMA I noticed the sales tax thing and did some searching to find a way around it.
With thier pricing and the way they worked it they were still the best deal and went ahead and ordered from them anyways.
Regarding the comments on Amazon I agree fuck them and I go out of my way to avoid them.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

I have ordered from other vendors and it came in an Amazon box.

 

[Rthur]

They set the rules concerning internet purchases.
They see people spending huge sums of coin on the internet, we need to fix this shit.
As if any amont of money is enough.

R

 

[Mr.Kirk]

That is why I will leave Tx in 3 years, they are going full commie with the taxes ere.

I pay for the shitty local school system and then for private school so my kids might develop human brains. Texas has some bullshit property taxes.

 

[308pirate]

I bought was going to buy a bunch of shit from Midway today. When I went to check out there was the sales tax.

Emptied that bitch so fast it made Larry Potterfield's head spin.

Went to Brownells and got the same stuff. Sales tax: $0

ETA: Paid LESS per item at Brownells too.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

You guys are giving me audit prospects.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Go knock on the
door and issue writ of audit in person. Lois fucking Lerner. I been wondering about you.

 

[308pirate]

Go knock on the
door and issue writ of audit in person. Lois fucking Lerner. I been wondering about you.

I'd rather bring her a writ of execution

 

[308pirate]

You guys are giving me audit prospects.

Sales tax is a state matter. I doubt you live in mine.

 

[ChadL]

Paying for an arena here. Anything that is considered a "convenience" is taxed an extra 1.5%. This includes fast food, convenience stores and the like.

Scheels just opened a new store in town. The place is ginormous and has a ferris wheel and fish tank and what not to get people in there. I see it as more overhead, but whatever.

The city decided it's joe taxpayer's responsibility to pay for a parking ramp at this new fancy place so Scheels is forced to impose a 1% "Parking Tax" on all purchases to pay for it.

So now our only decent reloading supply store is being boycotted by yours truly in order to not pay the tax.

Gotta love “The tax me state”. It’s bullshit.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

With online things, it takes me a while to group items usually. Amazon can fuck itself no matter what, don't shop there since they keep sending me broken shit and changing the prices upwards because I had Prime. Their CS is fantastic, but goddamn their sellers are a bunch of turds. Don't even get me started on their misquoted shipping times.

I don't avoid tax, but it usually ends up that way. I group what I can find in stock for each item's lowest price after shipping and tax is factored in, many times I thought I had it all squared up and then get hit with some last minute tax garbage during a checkout. I think I took about a whole day to order all the parts for the last AR I built, but I saved quite a bit tracking down the best cost to get everything on my list.

 

[308pirate]

I absolutely avoid any tax I can. I have never, EVER voted to impose, maintain, or increase any tax or levy that has ever come across my ballot.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

I go where the records are. Doesn't matter to me if it is out of state. BTW, state tax agencies don't like the IRS either. Chances are there are several revenuers in your state from other states tabulating unreported gross receipts for their own state based on a little thing called nexus. And then there are the various forms of use tax many states also employ.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

I was sitting here enjoying my coffee when I had what some alcoholics call a moment of clarity. This should make a cat piss in the house. There is the possibility that the sales tax you pay online may not even be for your state. You may want verify that as well. Most states impose a buyer (sales) tax and some a seller (excise) tax, which are two different animals. Then there is location to think about. Is the sale taxed at origination or destination. Is the vendor choosing the method to determine reporting location based on the capabilities and limitations of their current system. Don't think just because your billing address is in the state you reside is the determining factor of the type of sales tax you are being charged. Laws and vendor confusion are going to have revenue going across state lines like some sort of disorganized syndicate. We have South Dakota to thank for this mess but states are falling over each other staking claims and don't think for a minute double taxation is unconstitutional. The constitution doesn't address it and South Dakota vs Wayfair finally killed that old and tired argument that never added up to dry shit anyway. I love this Catch-22 shit.

 

[AIAW]

Some states now have an "ad valorem tax" on vehicle purchases. I know Georgia is one of them. So you pay sales tax on the vehicle, then you pay an ad valorem tax on top of that. Your yearly registration is then a fixed amount after that.

Here's the shady-ass kicker. If you trade at a dealership, the trade-in amount lowers the tax due on the replacement vehicle, obviously. The person that buys your trade-in though has to pay the ad valorem tax again! How does that shit even remotely seem legal?

It also screws the individual seller because an individual sale cannot have the tax credit applied. Only a dealership transaction can apply the tax benefits. Bye bye Auto Trader sales and personal automobile ads.

Luckily in Texas it's actually very reasonable (like an Tax can be called that but comparatively, it is). It's calculated by vehicle class and GVWR here, not value.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

That is a good example of perfectly legal double or triple taxation.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

Gotta love “The tax me state”. It’s bullshit.

Damn right it is. And it's done nothing but get worse.

 

[Woodlanddude]

Think this needs another round as I missed it until now. West Virginia evidently just magically decided to tax all online sales with no debate or input from the citizenry. I would encourage all online sales stores to tell the entire state of S. Dakota eat a dick and not sell to them over this. Further I doubt I'll buy anything online anymore after this as long as this bullshit ensues. Shipping + sales tax = a bridge too far when your already pinching pennies to buy small stuff. This will put many businesses out very quickly, because guess what. Since a business buys from a supplier online many times the state now gets to double dip/triple dip and more due to the layers of sells. So convenient that this decision was not reported by any media I saw. We are going down the shitter quick in this country. The purchasing power of a dollar will be dropping big time as the year grows due to this BS. Government overreach at its finest. Buy what you need now off the shelves boys, it will cost double or more in a few months as this catches up. I'd say call your legislators now, but I think we are past that helping in this country.

 

[W54/XM-388]

The days of not needing to pay sales tax on stuff you order out of state online are rapidly coming to an end.
The governments are getting more and more desperate for cash to keep up their corporate welfare and social programs spending.
They are running out of people to squeeze and grasping at anything they can.
Expect more onerous taxes as time goes on.

 

[MtnCreek]

Y'all know you were always supposed to pay sales tax on internet purchases, right? It's just that nobody did.

 

[AIAW]

I think if I stay out of CO and PA (Mile High and EuroOptic, respectively) I should be ok! I'd get wrecked in either of those.

They don't seem to be charging me sales taxes as of late (shipped to Texas).

 

[Waorani]

Pretty much kills a lot of stuff I really don't need anyway when you have to add almost 10%. Thank you Amazon.

 

[JSchell1309]

Missouri isn't collecting tax on internet purchases yet so I've been having stuff shipped to my office. I need to get out of this communist state of IL asap anyway. Il is fucked unless shitcago falls into the lake.

Yep, pretty happy MO is off the radar on Internet tax, 90% of anything I buy anymore is online. Half for the tax benefit and half for convienance.

Also IL sucks ass. I have a coworker and friend that lives there and he updates me on all the pants on head retarded shit your politicians come up with as far as gun legislation. Amazing he lives 20 minutes from one of the best gun rights states and refuses to move.

 

[JSchell1309]

With online things, it takes me a while to group items usually. Amazon can fuck itself no matter what, don't shop there since they keep sending me broken shit and changing the prices upwards because I had Prime. Their CS is fantastic, but goddamn their sellers are a bunch of turds. Don't even get me started on their misquoted shipping times.

I don't avoid tax, but it usually ends up that way. I group what I can find in stock for each item's lowest price after shipping and tax is factored in, many times I thought I had it all squared up and then get hit with some last minute tax garbage during a checkout. I think I took about a whole day to order all the parts for the last AR I built, but I saved quite a bit tracking down the best cost to get everything on my list.

If you don’t use it yet, you should use gun.deals website. Find a product you want, copy the UPC number, and paste it into gun.deals search. It will come up with the shops with it in stock and sort by lowest, will also estimate shipping.

Example below of the 457 I am watching for.

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/806703023595

Another tip is Brownells regularly has 10% off coupon codes or equivalent to 10% off of various totals. Below link is always up to date on what coupons they have that are live. Never checkout at Brownells without a coupon.

https://gun.deals/content/brownells

Last is Activy Junky is a decent cash back service that deposits right into PayPal, they typically have 6% off at Brownells. You can signup at this link and we both get a small signup bonus.

 

[TheGerman]

Y'all know you were always supposed to pay sales tax on internet purchases, right? It's just that nobody did.

There's a lot of shit I'm 'supposed to be doing'.

 

[TheGerman]

If you don’t use it yet, you should use gun.deals website. Find a product you want, copy the UPC number, and paste it into gun.deals search. It will come up with the shops with it in stock and sort by lowest, will also estimate shipping.

Example below of the 457 I am watching for.

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/806703023595

Another tip is Brownells regularly has 10% off coupon codes or equivalent to 10% off of various totals. Below link is always up to date on what coupons they have that are live. Never checkout at Brownells without a coupon.

https://gun.deals/content/brownells

Last is Activy Junky is a decent cash back service that deposits right into PayPal, they typically have 6% off at Brownells. You can signup at this link and we both get a small signup bonus.

Yeah thats part of what I've been doing. You also find some vendors that you would never have found otherwise that way too.

Was buying some appliances for my home bar and it basically always was, whoever didn't charge sales tax, won.

 

[JSchell1309]

Yeah thats part of what I've been doing. You also find some vendors that you would never have found otherwise that way too.

Was buying some appliances for my home bar and it basically always was, whoever didn't charge sales tax, won.

Agree, have found a few awesome little shops through gun.deals that I wouldn’t know of before. Reddit /r/gundeals is also a good place that some small shops frequent and often have killer sales.

Outside guns I often use slickdeals.com to search for the best price for whatever random shit I’m looking for. That place has been solid for the last decade.