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Re: Are suppressors worth it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mtrmn, it is for a 5R, that will double duty on my AR. i stopped in today to talk to the other guy that works there, and he seemed more knowledgeable that the first guy. the first guy kept saying "well...probably". i don't do probably or maybe. yes or no.
what do you mean by "... but the ratchet will prevent any further loosening for at least a couple hundred rounds, which is the max round count I've tested this."
do you mean it is going to wear out? </div></div>
I'm sorry if I confused you. No it should never wear out. It has a lifetime warranty-at least my YHM does.
I just threw in a little tip to save you and anybody else reading this from getting your suppressor stuck on your adapter. I really shouldn't have said anything, but here's the explanation.
Mine has a very simple ratchet mechanism that keeps the suppressor from backing off the adapter. It only takes like 2.5 to 3 turns for the suppressor to screw on or off. When you screw the suppressor on, it will engage the ratchet and click like the gas cap on your truck. (you DO have a truck don't you?
) If you screw it on TIGHT, you may have a very hard time backing it off after it has heated up and cooled off a few times. So in order to prevent this I screw it on til it stops clicking and then back it up one click so it won't seize during use. It's that simple but I took half a page explaining it.
My adapters are about 60 to 80 dollars apiece, some are as high as 150 or so. Availability of them is something to also consider if you plan on using it on multiple weapons. I use mine on 6 different rifles.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mtrmn, it is for a 5R, that will double duty on my AR. i stopped in today to talk to the other guy that works there, and he seemed more knowledgeable that the first guy. the first guy kept saying "well...probably". i don't do probably or maybe. yes or no.
what do you mean by "... but the ratchet will prevent any further loosening for at least a couple hundred rounds, which is the max round count I've tested this."
do you mean it is going to wear out? </div></div>
I'm sorry if I confused you. No it should never wear out. It has a lifetime warranty-at least my YHM does.
I just threw in a little tip to save you and anybody else reading this from getting your suppressor stuck on your adapter. I really shouldn't have said anything, but here's the explanation.
Mine has a very simple ratchet mechanism that keeps the suppressor from backing off the adapter. It only takes like 2.5 to 3 turns for the suppressor to screw on or off. When you screw the suppressor on, it will engage the ratchet and click like the gas cap on your truck. (you DO have a truck don't you?
My adapters are about 60 to 80 dollars apiece, some are as high as 150 or so. Availability of them is something to also consider if you plan on using it on multiple weapons. I use mine on 6 different rifles.
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
the one i was looking had the same thing. and yes i have 2. a F350, and a F450.
some of the thing i have been reading, people were complaining about the can wobbling loose, and having to mark where they screw them on to, etc.
can you elaborate a bit? thanks.
the one i was looking had the same thing. and yes i have 2. a F350, and a F450.
some of the thing i have been reading, people were complaining about the can wobbling loose, and having to mark where they screw them on to, etc.
can you elaborate a bit? thanks.
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
Well you got bigger trucks than I got.....
I actually back mine off (loosen it) 1 notch on purpose. I got it stuck on there once and it was not easy to get off even with a strap wrench. Since I started backing it off a notch I have had no problems. MINE has never backed off by itself because the ratchet teeth keep it from doing so.
By marking it, they probably tighten the suppressor and then put a mark on the suppressor and a matching mark on the adapter or barrel with a PENCIL or something else that won't burn off. Then a quick visual check to see if the marks are still aligned is all it takes to make sure it hasn't moved. Much better than grabbing a hot suppressor to check it for tightness.
Well you got bigger trucks than I got.....
I actually back mine off (loosen it) 1 notch on purpose. I got it stuck on there once and it was not easy to get off even with a strap wrench. Since I started backing it off a notch I have had no problems. MINE has never backed off by itself because the ratchet teeth keep it from doing so.
By marking it, they probably tighten the suppressor and then put a mark on the suppressor and a matching mark on the adapter or barrel with a PENCIL or something else that won't burn off. Then a quick visual check to see if the marks are still aligned is all it takes to make sure it hasn't moved. Much better than grabbing a hot suppressor to check it for tightness.
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i asked the guy how i clean it, and he said i don't have to.
what is the expected life on one of these things?
the trucks are for my tree service. they aren't toy trucks. the 350 is an '03, thats my daily runner truck. the 450 is a '10, thats the dump truck.
i asked the guy how i clean it, and he said i don't have to.
what is the expected life on one of these things?
the trucks are for my tree service. they aren't toy trucks. the 350 is an '03, thats my daily runner truck. the 450 is a '10, thats the dump truck.
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
As long as you don't shoot 22LR through it you shouldn't have to. It will most likely be all welded up so you won't be able to take it apart. Since you have to pay so much and go through so much to get one, any reputable maker will build it to last a lifetime. Mine has a life warranty on it unless you abuse it.
I DO clean mine-I'm kinda picky that way. It is titanium and inconel stainless, so I put a small amount of the concentrated soap made for use in pressure washers. I stop up the ends and shake it around to distribute the soap and then let it sit for about 10 minutes to let the soap work. Then I blast the inside with a water hose best I can and let it drain before I put it up for next time. What I do is not necessary as long as you only use it on centerfire guns.
Some people use a solution the call "the dip" but I think it's for removing lead etc from .22 rimfire suppressors. It will eat up aluminum and zinc alloys though so it's only good for stainless.
IF you clean yours, make sure to check on the chemicals you use so it doesn't react with whatever alloys are in the suppressor--including the welds.
I also put a little motor oil on the threads and the rear surface of the suppressor where the ratchet teeth engage.
IF I ever get the time to figure it out, I'll post some pics. Don't hold your breath for that one though.
As long as you don't shoot 22LR through it you shouldn't have to. It will most likely be all welded up so you won't be able to take it apart. Since you have to pay so much and go through so much to get one, any reputable maker will build it to last a lifetime. Mine has a life warranty on it unless you abuse it.
I DO clean mine-I'm kinda picky that way. It is titanium and inconel stainless, so I put a small amount of the concentrated soap made for use in pressure washers. I stop up the ends and shake it around to distribute the soap and then let it sit for about 10 minutes to let the soap work. Then I blast the inside with a water hose best I can and let it drain before I put it up for next time. What I do is not necessary as long as you only use it on centerfire guns.
Some people use a solution the call "the dip" but I think it's for removing lead etc from .22 rimfire suppressors. It will eat up aluminum and zinc alloys though so it's only good for stainless.
IF you clean yours, make sure to check on the chemicals you use so it doesn't react with whatever alloys are in the suppressor--including the welds.
I also put a little motor oil on the threads and the rear surface of the suppressor where the ratchet teeth engage.
IF I ever get the time to figure it out, I'll post some pics. Don't hold your breath for that one though.
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
anyone who posted on this thread should go ahead and finish themselves off, Whitney Houston style... I am typing this face down in a bathtub, on my high speed special waterproof keyboard...
anyone who posted on this thread should go ahead and finish themselves off, Whitney Houston style... I am typing this face down in a bathtub, on my high speed special waterproof keyboard...
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have been some distance away from people while hunting. i never noticed a crack. how noticeable is it?</div></div>
If you shoot towards a surface that will create an echo it is clearly very loud...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have been some distance away from people while hunting. i never noticed a crack. how noticeable is it?</div></div>
If you shoot towards a surface that will create an echo it is clearly very loud...
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
I've shot about 3 different types of suppressors of 2 different makes. Kac and surefire so pretty decent stuff but pricey luckily I didn't pay for them. After shooting a lot of rounds and I mean a lot like a couple ammo cans. I've decided my income tax return is going towards a suppressor.
In my experience I prefer sound reduction to recoil management ie brakes. But then again my experience with muzzle brakes is limited to barretts 50's and a magnaported 7mm mag.
As someone stated earlier the target doesn't really hear the gun at over 2-300m. A friend of mine praises their use for prairie dog hunting all the time.
Plus some people don't want you to have one so you should get one anyway.
I've shot about 3 different types of suppressors of 2 different makes. Kac and surefire so pretty decent stuff but pricey luckily I didn't pay for them. After shooting a lot of rounds and I mean a lot like a couple ammo cans. I've decided my income tax return is going towards a suppressor.
In my experience I prefer sound reduction to recoil management ie brakes. But then again my experience with muzzle brakes is limited to barretts 50's and a magnaported 7mm mag.
As someone stated earlier the target doesn't really hear the gun at over 2-300m. A friend of mine praises their use for prairie dog hunting all the time.
Plus some people don't want you to have one so you should get one anyway.
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The best I can describe a ballistic crack is it sounds like a 22 mag goin off at the muzzle pretty cool, when you can get a couple hundred yards down from a friend shooting it will definitly make your hair stand.
The best I can describe a ballistic crack is it sounds like a 22 mag goin off at the muzzle pretty cool, when you can get a couple hundred yards down from a friend shooting it will definitly make your hair stand.
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jh1990</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are definitely worth it! Do yourself a favor and get a .22 suppressor when you order a rifle can. They are hollywood quiet and you will end up shooting it more then anything else. Just my experience at least. </div></div>
Oh yes.... Savage MkII with 22 cal suppressor and subs = so fun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jh1990</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are definitely worth it! Do yourself a favor and get a .22 suppressor when you order a rifle can. They are hollywood quiet and you will end up shooting it more then anything else. Just my experience at least. </div></div>
Oh yes.... Savage MkII with 22 cal suppressor and subs = so fun
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BGEFIVEFOURONE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jh1990</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are definitely worth it! Do yourself a favor and get a .22 suppressor when you order a rifle can. They are hollywood quiet and you will end up shooting it more then anything else. Just my experience at least. </div></div>
Oh yes.... Savage MkII with 22 cal suppressor and subs = so fun </div></div>
Which supressor do you use?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BGEFIVEFOURONE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jh1990</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are definitely worth it! Do yourself a favor and get a .22 suppressor when you order a rifle can. They are hollywood quiet and you will end up shooting it more then anything else. Just my experience at least. </div></div>
Oh yes.... Savage MkII with 22 cal suppressor and subs = so fun </div></div>
Which supressor do you use?
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
well, since this thread is still going, i guess i will update everyone.
we are meeting with a lawyer who specializes in NFA trusts on tuesday to set up an NFA trust. when i first talked to his secretary, she said it would take a week to get the paper work back.
if i can find time tuesday, i am putting the deposit down on the 2 cans, YHM 308 and 9mm, if they didn't sell at the gun show this weekend. they only have one of each in stock. i didn't have time to get to the gun shop before friday. i am keeping my fingers crossed...
again, thanks for all the input from eveyone, on this thread and all the other ones i started.
well, since this thread is still going, i guess i will update everyone.
we are meeting with a lawyer who specializes in NFA trusts on tuesday to set up an NFA trust. when i first talked to his secretary, she said it would take a week to get the paper work back.
if i can find time tuesday, i am putting the deposit down on the 2 cans, YHM 308 and 9mm, if they didn't sell at the gun show this weekend. they only have one of each in stock. i didn't have time to get to the gun shop before friday. i am keeping my fingers crossed...
again, thanks for all the input from eveyone, on this thread and all the other ones i started.
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Working with the NFA division for many years they have been kind enough to tell me that they are pushing to eliminate applying under a trust to avoid having citizens from bypassing local LEO. I have only one can left and only use it when I teach team tactics or building entries with my SBR but other than that I am a glutton for punishment. Fun and exciting for awhile though. If you get one and plan to get a second one within 6 months of getting approved an NFA division employee I worked with told me to submit the app for the new one and also submit a copy of the one approved (within 6 months) and I have recieved my stamp within 2 1/2 weeks or so. The quickest was 2 weeks.
Working with the NFA division for many years they have been kind enough to tell me that they are pushing to eliminate applying under a trust to avoid having citizens from bypassing local LEO. I have only one can left and only use it when I teach team tactics or building entries with my SBR but other than that I am a glutton for punishment. Fun and exciting for awhile though. If you get one and plan to get a second one within 6 months of getting approved an NFA division employee I worked with told me to submit the app for the new one and also submit a copy of the one approved (within 6 months) and I have recieved my stamp within 2 1/2 weeks or so. The quickest was 2 weeks.
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i wondered about the NFA trust thing, and when they try to out law it, what will happen to the ones that are already done?
grandfathered in?
i wondered about the NFA trust thing, and when they try to out law it, what will happen to the ones that are already done?
grandfathered in?
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
The NFA division said anyone with one would be grandfathered with what they have but would not be able to add more to it if they stop accepting trusts for weapons. They have actually tried numerous times but had been unsuccessful. I have not heard anything more for awhile.
The NFA division said anyone with one would be grandfathered with what they have but would not be able to add more to it if they stop accepting trusts for weapons. They have actually tried numerous times but had been unsuccessful. I have not heard anything more for awhile.
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The NFA division said anyone with one would be grandfathered with what they have but would not be able to add more to it if they stop accepting trusts for weapons. They have actually tried numerous times but had been unsuccessful. I have not heard anything more for awhile. </div></div>
Likewise, the NFATCA is trying to get the LEO signoff removed from F1 and F4. There is NO FEDERAL LAW that states that the local LEO must be notified or approve of an NFA transfer. It's a BS addition to the forms that has no legal basis.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The NFA division said anyone with one would be grandfathered with what they have but would not be able to add more to it if they stop accepting trusts for weapons. They have actually tried numerous times but had been unsuccessful. I have not heard anything more for awhile. </div></div>
Likewise, the NFATCA is trying to get the LEO signoff removed from F1 and F4. There is NO FEDERAL LAW that states that the local LEO must be notified or approve of an NFA transfer. It's a BS addition to the forms that has no legal basis.
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Even dealing with some good people once in awhile with the NFA it seems unlikely (unfortunately) since the main reasoning for the LEO signing off on the paperwork is to verify that in some small towns or communities that it is not illegal in that area. Still garbage for cities, etc. to do it but it is still happening. Hopefully things will improve for all that are law abiding citizens to actually attain certain items without a dang hassle.
Even dealing with some good people once in awhile with the NFA it seems unlikely (unfortunately) since the main reasoning for the LEO signing off on the paperwork is to verify that in some small towns or communities that it is not illegal in that area. Still garbage for cities, etc. to do it but it is still happening. Hopefully things will improve for all that are law abiding citizens to actually attain certain items without a dang hassle.
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the CLEO signiture is NOT to verify that the ITEM is Legal... it is stating that the CLEO has no reason to know that the purchaser is prohibited from being in possession of the NFA item...
IE that the purchaser isn't under investigation for anything
the CLEO signiture is NOT to verify that the ITEM is Legal... it is stating that the CLEO has no reason to know that the purchaser is prohibited from being in possession of the NFA item...
IE that the purchaser isn't under investigation for anything
Re: Are suppressors worth it?
I never thought suppressors were worth it because they are expensive, long wait, and too much paperwork. I went ahead and set everything up and purchased one. I got my first suppressor 6 months ago and now i have three more on order and have been building guns around the suppressors. One you own your first suppressor, you will see they are worth it.
I never thought suppressors were worth it because they are expensive, long wait, and too much paperwork. I went ahead and set everything up and purchased one. I got my first suppressor 6 months ago and now i have three more on order and have been building guns around the suppressors. One you own your first suppressor, you will see they are worth it.
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everyone knows the CLEO signature is so the CLEO signs off verifying that he has done an in depth prostate exam, my CLEO is very gentle and said its not what he wants to do but has to, it is what it is
everyone knows the CLEO signature is so the CLEO signs off verifying that he has done an in depth prostate exam, my CLEO is very gentle and said its not what he wants to do but has to, it is what it is
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If you are not allowed to own something in a certain location then it would be.... ILLEGAL
- however they will do what they want. Even the ATF will tell you that they can prohibit you if they feel like it at a local level. This has happened way to many times in the county I live in. I have pointed out that I am a fellow LEO and have an 07FFL and posses many NFA items and they still said apply through them and they would let me know after quite some time before they would consider signing. So I started my trust.
If you are not allowed to own something in a certain location then it would be.... ILLEGAL
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distantplinker... you have a very limited understanding of the NFA process... please stop spreading your unimformed shit out of your crap spout
distantplinker... you have a very limited understanding of the NFA process... please stop spreading your unimformed shit out of your crap spout
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Don't know what is legal there but in AZ we are allowed to write out our own. I paid $30 for a computer version of the living will/trusts and filled in the blanks according to the trust I wanted. Very easy - 100% legal and the NFA took it with no issues. All you have to do is send them a copy of it with the application. Easy...
Don't know what is legal there but in AZ we are allowed to write out our own. I paid $30 for a computer version of the living will/trusts and filled in the blanks according to the trust I wanted. Very easy - 100% legal and the NFA took it with no issues. All you have to do is send them a copy of it with the application. Easy...
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stop being ignorant - are you a licensed manufacturer and do you work with the NFA? I am but I guess that makes me not know the issues related to these. Did your parents give you permission to be on this site? Your opinion is not golden - more toward the brown color stuff. How many NFA items do you own?
stop being ignorant - are you a licensed manufacturer and do you work with the NFA? I am but I guess that makes me not know the issues related to these. Did your parents give you permission to be on this site? Your opinion is not golden - more toward the brown color stuff. How many NFA items do you own?
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I dn't personally own any.... but my business owns several... and i sell even more... you're fucking retarded
I dn't personally own any.... but my business owns several... and i sell even more... you're fucking retarded
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Real good business sense guess that's how things happen in Oklahoma. Hopefully you will get over yourself and learn something, sometime, somehow, some way. WOW! Everyone is asked for opinions or experiences not the "I am GOD" syndrome and all praise ye!
Real good business sense guess that's how things happen in Oklahoma. Hopefully you will get over yourself and learn something, sometime, somehow, some way. WOW! Everyone is asked for opinions or experiences not the "I am GOD" syndrome and all praise ye!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Real good business sense guess that's how things happen in Oklahoma. Hopefully you will get over yourself and learn something, sometime, somehow, some way. WOW! Everyone is asked for opinions or experiences not the "I am GOD" syndrome and all praise ye!</div></div>
quit digging a hole. Force is good to go and knows his stuff.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Real good business sense guess that's how things happen in Oklahoma. Hopefully you will get over yourself and learn something, sometime, somehow, some way. WOW! Everyone is asked for opinions or experiences not the "I am GOD" syndrome and all praise ye!</div></div>
quit digging a hole. Force is good to go and knows his stuff.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are not allowed to own something in a certain location then it would be.... ILLEGAL
- however they will do what they want. Even the ATF will tell you that they can prohibit you if they feel like it at a local level. This has happened way to many times in the county I live in. I have pointed out that I am a fellow LEO and have an 07FFL and posses many NFA items and they still said apply through them and they would let me know after quite some time before they would consider signing. So I started my trust. </div></div>
So you are an 07 FFL but you still started a trust for Form 4's? That makes about as much sense as all your other posts. Carry on....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are not allowed to own something in a certain location then it would be.... ILLEGAL
So you are an 07 FFL but you still started a trust for Form 4's? That makes about as much sense as all your other posts. Carry on....
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I don't use my business to own avoid owning items. I do it the legitimate way. You can't take NFA items out of stock for personal use like regular weapons...
I don't use my business to own avoid owning items. I do it the legitimate way. You can't take NFA items out of stock for personal use like regular weapons...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't use my business to own avoid owning items. I do it the legitimate way. You can't take NFA items out of stock for personal use like regular weapons... </div></div>
Really? Please enlighten me as to where this is written. Also, PM me your FFL number so that I may check and see if you are actually an FFL holder or just someone that thinks they know what they are talking about...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantplinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't use my business to own avoid owning items. I do it the legitimate way. You can't take NFA items out of stock for personal use like regular weapons... </div></div>
Really? Please enlighten me as to where this is written. Also, PM me your FFL number so that I may check and see if you are actually an FFL holder or just someone that thinks they know what they are talking about...
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Like I PM'd a couple - my bad and all but this is how it is and this is how they are getting away with shit in AZ. Each his own - when you point out what is written and get the BS back from some agents then yes it is a fight and if your response from them is basically "too bad" then you will have a damn fight even when you are following their written in black and white laws because they can use their grey areas to screw you over anyway. It changes agent to agent and it does happen. Old school people auditing you after cause a wave is definitely something that hurts business and takes a bit to recover from.
Like I PM'd a couple - my bad and all but this is how it is and this is how they are getting away with shit in AZ. Each his own - when you point out what is written and get the BS back from some agents then yes it is a fight and if your response from them is basically "too bad" then you will have a damn fight even when you are following their written in black and white laws because they can use their grey areas to screw you over anyway. It changes agent to agent and it does happen. Old school people auditing you after cause a wave is definitely something that hurts business and takes a bit to recover from.
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He states FFL07, but he does not state SOT02. I don't think you have to pay your SOT to be an FFL07. But you definitely have to pay your SOT if you want to deal in or manufacture Title II firearms.
The CLEO signoff means that the CLEO does not know of any laws in his area that would prohibit you from owning a Title II firearm. This can be interpreted two ways - either there are no laws in his jurisdiction that would prohibit ownership, or that you are not a person who should be prohibited ownership in his jurisdiction. It's both.
Most SOT payers do not transfer items to themselves as individuals. Most SOT payers will use an item in their inventory as their personal item, but it doesn't leave inventory either. Transferring an item to yourself, and paying the associated tax, would be counter-productive for the SOT payer as he would be double taxed.
He states FFL07, but he does not state SOT02. I don't think you have to pay your SOT to be an FFL07. But you definitely have to pay your SOT if you want to deal in or manufacture Title II firearms.
The CLEO signoff means that the CLEO does not know of any laws in his area that would prohibit you from owning a Title II firearm. This can be interpreted two ways - either there are no laws in his jurisdiction that would prohibit ownership, or that you are not a person who should be prohibited ownership in his jurisdiction. It's both.
Most SOT payers do not transfer items to themselves as individuals. Most SOT payers will use an item in their inventory as their personal item, but it doesn't leave inventory either. Transferring an item to yourself, and paying the associated tax, would be counter-productive for the SOT payer as he would be double taxed.
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Even as an 07 you still have to pay for the SOT. Not worth it the last couple years with crap economy!
Even as an 07 you still have to pay for the SOT. Not worth it the last couple years with crap economy!
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