Are we headed towards a shooting war in the US?

[mosin46]

many good points above. the balkanization of america is almost complete. new people coming in are kept from becoming american by the left wing power structure and left to maintain their "diversity" by the system. they are well distributed and supported by the diverse welfare system. any armed conflict in america would be a slaughter house far worse the 90s balkans with little direction. as said,no way to really tell sides other than appearance and association. we know which side would be supported by the government,which would intervene with the police and military if any success by those opposing the system. and yes,the police and military will follow orders to exterminate and imprison patriots. look at history: cambodia,rawanda,russia-1920s,france-1780/90s,many others.
and if the "patriots" won? our digitally,petroleum,transportation based civilization would be finished. enter china,russia,mexican army,taliban all of whom we have well supplied with the tools needed for a takeover of what's left. sorry,it's over. faked elections aren't gonna fix it.

 

[NoDopes]

Especially true since the events of Jan-6th are the first time in the history of our country that we were unable to execute a peaceful transfer of power.

You mean able to protest a proven stolen election in a coup?
"Transfer of power"... Indeed.
1776 wasn't exactly a peaceful transfer either. Strictly speaking.

 

[TurboTrout]

If you think boomers are ACTUALLY the most patriotic vs just playing patriotic, I think you might be behind the 8 ball.

Tons of boomers with trump flags, back da blu shit, American flags etc shopping at Wally World buying chinese shit, also lots of boomers who blindly support .gov

Later generations ain’t a ton better, some are worse, but “shop local” even if for other than patriotic reasons, seems to be a later generational thing. End of the day we realistically vote with our feet, out wallets, and our arms.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Millennial generation starts at 1980. Millennials carried the load for 20 years in the GWOT.

I’d say Gen-x and Gen-z are the softies.

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

It's interesting, and not just a little "skewed", that your three "Yes, Likely, Possible" choices are demonstrably anti-left, and that none of them indicate any predisposition by the right to start the violence. Especially true since the events of Jan-6th are the first time in the history of our country that we were unable to execute a peaceful transfer of power. Not looking for a battle, just (probably inappropriately) exercising my centrist-moderate political leanings by pointing out that a survey that only considers the left side of the political spectrum as the catalyst and only possible causes that internal shooting starts, seems pretty one-sided.

My favorite quote of a prior thread on this topic ...

"A civil war in America won't last long. The right owns all the guns, and the left can't figure out which bathroom to use."

We get it man you're a lefty.
Is it the right that has burned down entire cities? Did anyone besides protesters get killed on Jan 6th? No.

 

[AngryKoala]

It's interesting, and not just a little "skewed", that your three "Yes, Likely, Possible" choices are demonstrably anti-left, and that none of them indicate any predisposition by the right to start the violence. Especially true since the events of Jan-6th are the first time in the history of our country that we were unable to execute a peaceful transfer of power. Not looking for a battle, just (probably inappropriately) exercising my centrist-moderate political leanings by pointing out that a survey that only considers the left side of the political spectrum as the catalyst and only possible causes that internal shooting starts, seems pretty one-sided.

My favorite quote of a prior thread on this topic ...

"A civil war in America won't last long. The right owns all the guns, and the left can't figure out which bathroom to use."

If you evaluate the frequency of recent political violence it tends to be initiated by the left.

 

[wade2big]

Right and left will ally against those that won’t toe the line.

Absolutely. This is NOT left vs right. I hope those reading this understand that. Unfortunately you are an example of this. Who in power on either side lifted a finger for you? The guys that you worked side by side with for years sold you out for a paycheck so they sure as hell will sell the rest of us out. I’m sure many align with the right but it mattered none.

I know you and I crossed for a brief moment but I’m glad you are on my side my man. I hope you speak around others as you do on this platform.

 

[NCHillbilly]

It's all fine....it'll be OK. Relax. Have a beer and chill.

VooDoo

Having a beer and chillin' is how we got in this mess.

 

[Bender]

Never happen. Everyone is too comfortable. "They" know we are only a generation or two away from completely not caring. Those who do are getting old and dying off, not enough young people who care about the Constitution and freedom to do anything in the future. If anyone was gonna do anything it would happen now, simply put no one will organize and do anything, it's over. One more fraudulent election and they will have total control. They already have all the government agencies in their back pockets. All the important positions are filled with their people. They are starting to control food and fuel and water already. Soon people will be begging to be told what to do just to get these basic necessities to survive. The people will rat out friends and neighbors for food and water and fuel. They are cleaning out the military of the good soldiers and replacing them with the woke faggotry that they control. New money and banking system within 10 years, your savings and 401k's wont be worth .05 cents on the dollar. Half the time you go to the grocery store you cant find shit your looking for, car parts are becoming harder to source, ammo and reloading components harder to source. I give it 10 years and the new socialist new world order will be in place and no one will do shit about it no matter how much shit is talked here or elsewhere. Sorry just pretty much see it this way. "They" control the media, elections, fuel, food, water ect.........

This.

We loose by apathy and attrition. This is why I’m so pissed at the boomers who just were all too happy to work on “muh pension/401k” this war was lost in the 60’s after Kennedy’s remote haircut. That was the time to set things back on track. McCarthy was right all along. You better find God and prepare, because nothing can stop what’s coming. And it isn’t some Q boomer LARP. Deus Ex Machina is a fairytale.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

Having a beer and chillin' is how we got in this mess.

No it's not. The current failure of our Republic rests at the feet of our Two Party System....we were warned that to keep our Republic we needed to avoid the trap of Political Party Loyalty over Loyalty to The Republic. And as predicted and warned of, here we are, ruled/controlled by one of either Political Parties whose "Representatives" are bought and paid for by Global Oligarchs who seek to (and are succeeding at) liquidating the Wealth of the Working Class and depositing it in the pockets of the .01% who own and operate The Two Parties.

Have a beer and chill. It's all over now and we have to wait for the crash to fix it. Nothing gets fixed until it's so broke it can't function anymore. Have a beer and wait is my Plan until someone with credibility and a Plan steps forward to solve this mess. Until then I am a patient and keen/calm observer.

VooDoo

 

[NCHillbilly]

No it's not. The current failure of our Republic rests at the feet of our Two Party System....we were warned that to keep our Republic we needed to avoid the trap of Political Party Loyalty over Loyalty to The Republic. And as predicted and warned of, here we are, ruled/controlled by one of either Political Parties whose "Representatives" are bought and paid for by Global Oligarchs who seek to (and are succeeding at) liquidating the Wealth of the Working Class and depositing it in the pockets of the .01% who own and operate The Two Parties.

Have a beer and chill. It's all over now and we have to wait for the crash to fix it. Nothing gets fixed until it's so broke it can't function anymore. Have a beer and wait is my Plan until someone with credibility and a Plan steps forward to solve this mess. Until then I am a patient and keen/calm observer.

VooDoo

Well, yeah ,it is how we got here. Apathy and ambivalence on the part of the American citizen allowed the political scum of both parties to circumvent our constitution.

While everyone was busy chasing their particular version of the American dream, the govt was collecting and centralizing more power than they had been granted, and nobody was paying attention. For so many people, if it wasn't happening in their yard, their community, or their life, they blew it off and went on about their business.

I do agree, however, that the system will necessarily have to completely crash in order to shake some from a lifetime of ignorance. I just hope the rest of us survive it.

 

[TurboTrout]

Covid should have enlightened everyone to how the future could easily end up.

Iron fisted .gov and neighbors feeling righteous for ratting out their neighbors and even family to the regime.

 

[TexPatriot]

Well, I have two sons who are both in their early 30's and both are staunch 2A supporter's and are very aware of what's going on as are many of their friends (who I know). The deal is, they all work hard, have good jobs and love America. So don't write off all the up and coming.
As for me, yeah, I'm a boomer but keep in shape, follow AJ's rule and as far as cattle cars go.......well let's just say I have a plan.

There is no doubt there are both younger men and women following the Boomer generation that still hold America's values but those number are dwindling. Thats no accident. Your sons generation and their son's and daughters are targeted to be turned into America hating communists. That is priority one.

Even the high school in my rural town is encouraging "Pride Day" for it's confused student body. There was a time parents wouldn't allow their kids to hang around that element, saying they are dirty, nasty, vulgar, a bad influence. Now, it's the school itself.

 

[jmp1]

yes, the fact that both sides are largely mixed geographically makes it much less likely, even if that is just hopeful wishing.
even in places considered "liberal" like california, there are tens of millions of patriotic americans that still hold the values of our founding fathers.

As someone "behind enemy lines" so to speak, this statement is correct. I'm in rural northern CA. Most folks here are just as fed up with our state as everyone else. We go and vote knowing that it's already decided by Sac, San Fran and LA.

Interestingly enough, last weak did a road trip down south. Out to Catalina Island. Graduation trip for my daughter. Lots of FJB shirts stickers and such. Lots of conversations with locals and tourists that all seemed to devolve to the current state of the world. Funny thing is....everyone is sick of the current shit show. Got me to thinking...most people I talked with probably vote straight D and and will again.
The whole definition of insanity thing.
It's almost like sports fans. Their team sucks but they go watch the game and never waiver in their loyalty. Pretty absurd really.

 

[TexPatriot]

Having a beer and chillin' is how we got in this mess.

Charlie's idea of chillin' was cold rice and a little rat meat.

 

[gunjunkie45]

If you think boomers are ACTUALLY the most patriotic vs just playing patriotic, I think you might be behind the 8 ball.

Tons of boomers with trump flags, back da blu shit, American flags etc shopping at Wally World buying chinese shit, also lots of boomers who blindly support .gov

Later generations ain’t a ton better, some are worse, but “shop local” even if for other than patriotic reasons, seems to be a later generational thing. End of the day we realistically vote with our feet, out wallets, and our arms.

Gen X? Really? You mean the generation that raised themselves, came up before social media and only caught the beginning of the internet. Spent all our time outside and were told by our moms to either beat the bully or find new friends.. Yeah we're the ones that fucked it all up while working our asses off, not running up unsustainable student debt, and staying busy not blaming other generations. Okay there Gay Guppy.

 

[BLKWLFK9]

Just FYI, he who shoots first, loses this hypothetical war.

 

[NCHillbilly]

Charlie's idea of chillin' was cold rice and a little rat meat.

From the looks of things, that may be where we're headed if the globalists have their way.

 

[pmclaine]

I learned something yesterday, we did not have an official national anthem until 1931 (or 1916 if exec order is treated as law). The pledge of allegiance was written in 1892. We didn’t have an official pledge or anthem to unite us for over half of our life as a country.

Looking at where we’ve come from, our success has happened when states had more power so people could choose to live in a state where the finer points of politics were in line with their beliefs.

So what united us? Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that was rooted in a society with the underpinning of morality (as given by God). The particulars will always be different but what makes us great is the unity around the liberty given to each individual

We used to have “E Pluribus Unum” and a “Melting Pot”.

Diversity without creating a binding link is called Balkanization.

 

[pmclaine]

If you notice any Trump rally, the majority of his supporters are boomers, the last patriotic generation raised by the Greatest Generation. The Left knows it too and is playing the long con, waiting for that generation to pass on or become so invalid they'll have to have wheel chair ramps to load us into the cattle cars. And after Father Time does what Bill Gates and Fauchi are trying to do, there won't be enough fighting age patriots left to put up any real resistance.

That leaves the millennials and Gen. Z college age generation fresh out of the indoctrination factories called the public school system. They should fall in line and become good communists, until they get tired of chasing garbage trucks for something to eat.

I’m not sure if there is enough true belief after the 60s decade passes to continue the fight.

That’s why Bill Ayres, Pelosi, Soros the Clintons are so desperate.

Trump stole 4 years of their plan, they are tired and want to die but are so spiteful they will themselves to live until they realize their life’s work.

Look at Ginsburg she beat 6 month terminal by years because she is so hateful.

 

[candyx]

I think its the duty of every American not to all ow this country to fall into an open civil war. We are not perfect but are stronger together.

As pointed out identify politics is a tool of division. The masses UNITED( the united states) is what did and is the only thing that can continue to make this country great. Yes we have some infighting and always will, but full out civil shooting war.. fuck that noise!

Maybe we are not all that divided but unfortunately the 535 political thieves who's job is to keep us divided needs to change. The way the promote their personal radical agenda makes everyone think that is the position of their constituents when maybe it's not, If it is there is really no other way but to fight it out. A two party system has run its course and is no longer viable. How can you run a Nation, business or family if for 4-8 years your against 49% of the people. The government is not one for the country depending who is in office. There are two different factions present today which is 180 degrees opposite of the other side. These two factions can't coexist as one , its impossible as you have witness in recent years. Our frame work of government is outdated and is corrupt , a new system must be created to work for all the people as one.

 

[wade2big]

Just FYI, he who shoots first, loses this hypothetical war.

Shots have already been fired. How many people died and will continue to be maimed and killed in the name of covid? What about Ashli Babbot and the other lady killed on the 6th? How many will die because of poverty because of gov made inflation? Shots have been fired from across the line and many hit their mark.

 

[TexPatriot]

Shots have already been fired. How many people died and will continue to be maimed and killed in the name of covid? What about Ashli Babbot and the other lady killed on the 6th? How many will die because of poverty because of gov made inflation? Shots have been fired from across the line and many hit their mark.

They're all coming from one direction, the Left, with the exception of Kyle Rittenhouse and look what stink it stirred from that bunch of trash.

 

[JPC13]

If you notice any Trump rally, the majority of his supporters are boomers, the last patriotic generation raised by the Greatest Generation. The Left knows it too and is playing the long con, waiting for that generation to pass on or become so invalid they'll have to have wheel chair ramps to load us into the cattle cars. And after Father Time does what Bill Gates and Fauchi are trying to do, there won't be enough fighting age patriots left to put up any real resistance.

That leaves the millennials and Gen. Z college age generation fresh out of the indoctrination factories called the public school system. They should fall in line and become good communists, until they get tired of chasing garbage trucks for something to eat.

There's a whole popular genre of Trump themed rap and it's not performed by or for old people. There's a loud vocal minority of ultra woke tards on college campuses but the majority are silent centrists. I don't want to identify myself, but I know this because I'm around hundreds of college kids every year.

 

[wade2big]

They're all coming from one direction, the Left, with the exception of Kyle Rittenhouse and look what stink it stirred from that bunch of trash.

They are not only coming from the left in government. Both sides are reaponsible for where we are. Really think about it. They are coming from an authoritarian gov’t represented by the left and the right. BIg government Statists wanting power over others is where its coming from. Now the violence coming from the people is all leftists. We agree on that, but understand who is not only allowing it but pushing for it.

 

[n2ishun]

I studied nuclear science, I love my classes.
I gotta crazy teacher he wears dark glasses.
Things aren't going great and their only getting worser.
The Patriot Front glows so bright, I gotta wear shades.

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[Longshot231]

The one on the left is definitely an armored asset. I don't know what the other three are.

 

[TXAZ]

Took my 90 yo dad to the range today. He had a blast. Based on his performance (and crowd watching / cheering him) I’m confident he could hit a 5+MOA at 600 yards.

 

[Longshot231]

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Took my 90 yo dad to the range today. He had a blast. Based on his performance (and crowd watching / cheering him) I’m confident he could hit a 5+MOA at 600 yards.

Well it certainly has enough ballistic gelatin.

 

[Jscb1b]

The one on the left is definitely an armored asset. I don't know what the other three are.

Targets.

 

[Flyingbullseye]

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Took my 90 yo dad to the range today. He had a blast. Based on his performance (and crowd watching / cheering him) I’m confident he could hit a 5+MOA at 600 yards.

That isn't +5MOA bro, that's more inline with its BMI

 

[JR_77]

Poll: 28% of Americans believe they'll need to take up arms against the government, 68% of rural voters say the government is 'corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me' | Blaze Media

More than a quarter of Americans believe they'll need to take up arms against the U.S. government, according to a new poll. A poll from the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics found that 28% of U.S. voters – including 37% who own guns – believe "it may be necessary at some point soon...

www.theblaze.com

 

[Skunk]

What do you think, for the country as a whole?
What about where you live?

Who cares anymore?

 

[SilentStalkr]

While I agree for the most part unless sanity returns we a heading towards what occurred in Yugoslavia in the 90’s. In the last 30 years of my life we have gone from slight grumblings at the dinner table or diner, to brawls at school board meetings. The left is now advocating for the overthrow of the Supreme Court and the shedding and rewriting of the constitution to fit their world view. This express to a confrontation is accelerating at a alarming rate. If you look at every revolution the last act that triggers the start is usually the least important of all the issues. The American revolution didn’t start because of a tax on tea, in and of itself that is a issue that would normally be just complaining at the bar, but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, I do seriously wonder what’s the straw that will break this one.

There was a senator just prior to the civil war who said the discussion was silly, he pulled out a hanky and said all the blood from this conflict will be able to be cleaned up with this. When you have media commentators advocating for reeducation camps, denial of medical and financial services, and entering peoples homes to seize their personal property you are stoking the fire of rebellion and that’s where we already are, and as history teaches once at this point it doesn’t take a massive issue to start a conflict, but usually a very small one.

Let them continue to let the rope out. It isn’t time. You will know.

Maybe we are not all that divided but unfortunately the 535 political thieves who's job is to keep us divided needs to change. The way the promote their personal radical agenda makes everyone think that is the position of their constituents when maybe it's not, If it is there is really no other way but to fight it out. A two party system has run its course and is no longer viable. How can you run a Nation, business or family if for 4-8 years your against 49% of the people. The government is not one for the country depending who is in office. There are two different factions present today which is 180 degrees opposite of the other side. These two factions can't coexist as one , its impossible as you have witness in recent years. Our frame work of government is outdated and is corrupt , a new system must be created to work for all the people as one.

We don’t need a new system, what we need is moral men of character to carry out the system we have, to the T. It’s the men leading that have corrupted the system. Society needs to be fixed first. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter what system you put in place, they will all fail because of the lack of a moral compass from those running it.

 

[wade2big]

Let them continue to let the rope out. It isn’t time. You will know.


We don’t need a new system, what we need is moral men of character to carry out the system we have, to the T. It’s the men leading that have corrupted the system. Society needs to be fixed first. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter what system you put in place, they will all fail because of the lack of a moral compass from those running it.

I disagree. Society is fucked because of the systems we have in place. An all powerful government will always lead to a immoral fucked up society. Moral men of character do not need to be governed by others to begin with. When you take power from moral men and put it in the hands of a few and call it government then compile an armed police force to protect this governments power, society will decay. Government makes it “illegal” for moral men to rid society if immoral people. You end up with the shit sandwich we have now.

 

[Jscb1b]

So wade2big, are you a poacher or a boot licker?

 

[brianf]

We all get stuck on what and how because that’s the easy part.

The hard question is what will happen after?

How will one side win?
Will They give up?
Are they organized?

What will happen to the losers?

How will the country function if 50% lost and are still active civil unrest?

If 50% of the civil service jobs are the losers..whose turning in the power station tomorrow?

Will the winners follow the original constitution or begin changing like all “winners”?

Will the losers still have 2A available if the winners follow the original constitutional?

Will the country be a better place after we fall to # 2,3,4,5 …economy /country in the world? Or do we become Canada and China totally runs the world economy and military like we do now?

There are 1000’s of questions that need to be answered and then Those answers are compared to our current track (good or bad)?

That’s why I think it will never happen on a large scale. Being a crappy #1 is better than being a shitty # 5 in the grand scheme. And it’s a guarantee that any large scale revolution would be a disaster not only internally but externally.

Could be wrong but who’s in charge and what they do after is the hard part..original guys had a plan.

 

[BCP]

Unless rich people want to have a civil war nothing will happen.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Let me answer your question by asking you guys another question. Has anyone considered why our enemies are lax and holding back? There lies your answer. Nobody knows what tomorrow holds for our country, but it’s seemingly imploding from within, which is why for the most part people are standing back and watching. It may be a week from now or 50 years from now but on its current path it’s failing. As it always has been, it’s up to the American people to determine the outcome they desire. Until the day comes that people fight back, all you can do is prepare as best as you can and teach those around you. We win this fight by teaching, encouraging and loving our neighbors, changing your local communities. Get out and get involved. Then if those rulers cross the line, you’ll know you did everything you could to avoid what has landed at the doorstep and if you did your job right, you’ll have allies in the fight. It must start at a local level in the communities. Get out and get to know your neighbor.

Local loyalties almost always prove to be a royal pain in the ass, if not detrimental to outside stimuli. There is a hint in there somewhere, a big one.

 

[wade2big]

So wade2big, are you a poacher or a boot licker?

I’m going to lay (3) truths on you.

1. Government can only exist through by force agains the population it rules over. There is no other way. Government always takes power away from good men by force and as a result society decays.

2. Police are not here for the safety of the people. They exist to empower and protect government. They are the tool used to force the will of a few (government) onto the rest of the population.

3. The American military hasn’t fought for America, the constitution, or the people in at least a 100 years regardless of what is taught, believed, or accepted. Soldiers have fought and died for politicians, corporate oligarchs, bankers, and other interests while believing otherwise. These men, their families, and the rest of the people back at home were/are deceived by the groups that benefit from their sacrifice.

If you disagree with anything I say, put your pants on and use your big boy words to debate my points. Otherwise move along.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Only 535?
Last I checked the entire government is corrupt. Knock one down and they are like sharks teeth.

Maybe we are not all that divided but unfortunately the 535 political thieves who's job is to keep us divided needs to change. The way the promote their personal radical agenda makes everyone think that is the position of their constituents when maybe it's not, If it is there is really no other way but to fight it out. A two party system has run its course and is no longer viable. How can you run a Nation, business or family if for 4-8 years your against 49% of the people. The government is not one for the country depending who is in office. There are two different factions present today which is 180 degrees opposite of the other side. These two factions can't coexist as one , its impossible as you have witness in recent years. Our frame work of government is outdated and is corrupt , a new system must be created to work for all the people as one.

Our framework is not outdated and corrupt. The bastardization of the original framework is the problem. George Washington warned in his farewell letter of the very shit that we currently have.

Farewell Address Full Text - Text of Washington's Address - Owl Eyes

Read Full Text and Annotations on Farewell Address Text of Washington's Address at Owl Eyes

www.owleyes.org

 

[SilentStalkr]

Only 535?
Last I checked the entire government is corrupt. Knock one down and they are like sharks teeth.

Our framework is not outdated and corrupt. The bastardization of the original framework is the problem. George Washington warned in his farewell letter of the very shit that we currently have.

Farewell Address Full Text - Text of Washington's Address - Owl Eyes

Read Full Text and Annotations on Farewell Address Text of Washington's Address at Owl Eyes

www.owleyes.org

Exactly what I was trying to point out earlier.

For those that think a free for all would be better than it is here, then I urge you to research many 3rd world countries out there and report back whether you’d rather be here or over in one of those places. Even places that don’t have a centralized government are often ruled by factions of corrupt rulers. I’m not sure that any one place on earth exists where one could truly be considered free. I guess it depends on ones definition of free.

 

[TexPatriot]

Unless rich people want to have a civil war nothing will happen.

Nope. And who would you war with and shoot at? Shoot your mentally-ill, communist, Biden voting neighbor on site?

 

[n2ishun]

Nope. And who would you war with and shoot at? Shoot your mentally-ill, communist, Biden voting neighbor on site?

Well, that's certainly a viable option.

 

[candyx]

Only 535?
Last I checked the entire government is corrupt. Knock one down and they are like sharks teeth.

Our framework is not outdated and corrupt. The bastardization of the original framework is the problem. George Washington warned in his farewell letter of the very shit that we currently have.

Farewell Address Full Text - Text of Washington's Address - Owl Eyes

Read Full Text and Annotations on Farewell Address Text of Washington's Address at Owl Eyes

www.owleyes.org

You would have to agree that George Washington would be terribly disappointed that The People would elect a President of low moral character with limited intelligence who holds disdain for the Nation. Usually when you start something new it takes years to prefect it , in our case our government started at its pinnacle and declined steadily into our present day clown show.
The collapse of respect towards the rules which started with the politicians which in turn they stopped enforcing the rule of law on their constituents so they could stay in office for a life time.
I don't think you can ever reset the government to how the Framers intended it to work.

George Washington was an Extraordinary President beyond comprehension looking back from present time. What did we as a collective do to contribute to history, elect the poster child for Depends Adult Diapers ..........

 

[Jscb1b]

I’m going to lay (3) truths on you.

1. Government can only exist through by force agains the population it rules over. There is no other way. Government always takes power away from good men by force and as a result society decays.

2. Police are not here for the safety of the people. They exist to empower and protect government. They are the tool used to force the will of a few (government) onto the rest of the population.

3. The American military hasn’t fought for America, the constitution, or the people in at least a 100 years regardless of what is taught, believed, or accepted. Soldiers have fought and died for politicians, corporate oligarchs, bankers, and other interests while believing otherwise. These men, their families, and the rest of the people back at home were/are deceived by the groups that benefit from their sacrifice.

If you disagree with anything I say, put your pants on and use your big boy words to debate my points. Otherwise move along.

Since you won't answer my question and want to redirect it, I'm going to assume you are a hypocrite and a boot licker. May the smell of the shit on your overlords boot smell better than the shit you talk.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

You are an idiot!!

Since you won't answer my question and want to redirect it, I'm going to assume you are a hypocrite and a boot licker. May the smell of the shit on your overlords boot smell better than the shit you talk.

Have you ever driven above the posted limit?
Have you stopped beating your wife?

 

[338 Mollett]

Hmmm a chicken or the egg situation. Did the immoral society create the corrupt government or the other way around ?

 

[NoDopes]

You would have to agree that George Washington would be terribly disappointed that The People would elect a President of low moral character with limited intelligence who holds disdain for the Nation.

That's the secret... Audit in AZ shows up to 20% swing via fraud. He wasn't elected. He did get some votes, so your point is still valid.

Since you won't answer my question and want to redirect it, I'm going to assume you are a hypocrite and a boot licker. May the smell of the shit on your overlords boot smell better than the shit you talk.

Perhaps you didn't read his point about not following orders get you arrested, shot and/or your property seized? That kinda his entire point actually.