Rifle Scopes Arken SH4 Gen2 6-24x50 VPR MIL

I think there's some point where people do need to step back, and acknowledge that this is still a $500 scope, and set their expectations accordingly. There are still minimum costs on certain components, and no amount of marketing budget that other larger companies have will change that. You can only squeeze $500 in so many ways, to get "max value" out of it for the consumer, and still be profitable.
I agree. It is still a $550 scope, but it's a damn nice $550 scope. Remember the $500 scopes from 20 years ago (I.E. Leupold VX-3 level options)? Capped turrets, duplex reticles, max of 10 MILs of adjustment (for both directions), glass was so-so (good for 20 years ago, but Tasco level today)... Hell, I'll take a 2020 $550 scope over a 2002 $550 scope any day of the week. 😂
 
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I agree. It is still a $550 scope, but it's a damn nice $550 scope. Remember the $500 scopes from 20 years ago (I.E. Leupold VX-3 level options)? Capped turrets, duplex reticles, max of 10 MILs of adjustment (for both directions), glass was so-so (good for 20 years ago, but Tasco level today)... Hell, I'll take a 2020 $550 scope over a 2002 $550 scope any day of the week. 😂

By purchasing this scope directly from Arken, without the price markup that a reseller would place on the optic, that money stays in your pocket.

By cutting out distribution costs/markups, the optic can be sold at an incredible price point.
 
By purchasing this scope directly from Arken, without the price markup that a reseller would place on the optic, that money stays in your pocket.

By cutting out distribution costs/markups, the optic can be sold at an incredible price point.
Agreed. I also think due to inflation, a lot of scopes out there aren't worth what they cost.
 
What lens cracks under recoil? Did I miss something?

The one inside the scope

 
The one inside the scope

Thank you sir, that thread was a shit show, man I would have been flaming ass mad if that would have happened to me, the first time, alright, but twice, I would probably have asked for my damn money back... But to be fair, I guess all optics can have flaws, even the 3800 plus optics...
 
Thank you sir, that thread was a shit show, man I would have been flaming ass mad if that would have happened to me, the first time, alright, but twice, I would probably have asked for my damn money back... But to be fair, I guess all optics can have flaws, even the 3800 plus optics...

Dude shoulda bought an Arken😉 coulda saved $3500.00!🤣
 
Tomorrow will be 4 weeks from order date, received email today that it's on the way. Was hoping to get it before Saturday as
it's going to be 50 degrees here in KC. Oh well, it'll be here next week and give me time to mount it.
 
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Ordered the EP5 mil on the 27th, and it shipped today.
Getting closer... Hopefully mine will ship either end of this week, or early next week, and be here before the following weekend.

Right now my work project is wrapping-up, and I have time to do things at home (like go to the range when they're open) in between work stuff since the range is only 5 minutes from my house, before the next one starts up. 👍🏼
 
...finally got out to test my 6ARC build and zero my SH4 Gen2 4x16 on the 100YD lane. To MY old eyes, very clear, crisp image, all of my expectations met, exceeded really. The only bad thing I encountered is....


my eyes are shot o_O I think I need to order a 5-25x now, I was having issues picking up them 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" diamonds even at 16X 🤣
 
Yep, go ahead and order one! You won't regret it for sure. Even with my old eyes, the EP5 is a badass!!
....I'm seriously considering it, but I'm in no hurry and I can wait for their supply to "normalize" and hopefully become "In Stock". My testing the other day was basically to function validate the build, put rounds down the tube and zero the scope. Probably the biggest thing was I need to reposition the mount on the rail, just a bit too far forward and I get tunneling when I assume my natural cheek weld.
 
....I'm seriously considering it, but I'm in no hurry and I can wait for their supply to "normalize" and hopefully become "In Stock". My testing the other day was basically to function validate the build, put rounds down the tube and zero the scope. Probably the biggest thing was I need to reposition the mount on the rail, just a bit too far forward and I get tunneling when I assume my natural cheek weld.
I heard rumor the MOA versions are shipping pretty fast. Apparently MIL is more popular, so it's more in-demand. That's why they're taking so long to ship. I'm a MIL guy, so i'm still waiting.
 
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Got mine today (EP5), order date was 12/27. On first impression I am disappointed..
Not really, I am impressed with the turrets, glass clarity on first impression is clear just looking out to around
1300 yds. Got snow moving in so I'll mount it this week but will be a few days before I can go to the range. Will do a
tall target and box test. I'll post results after shooting it.
 
Got mine today (EP5), order date was 12/27. On first impression I am disappointed..
Not really, I am impressed with the turrets, glass clarity on first impression is clear just looking out to around
1300 yds. Got snow moving in so I'll mount it this week but will be a few days before I can go to the range. Will do a
tall target and box test. I'll post results after shooting it.
Awesome! Can't wait to see your results and hear your thoughts once you've had more time behind it out in the wild.
 
I see that... On their website you can't even add it to cart anymore... Wonder why? 🤔 Did you hear any reason why they stopped? Were they having issues sourcing parts?
There was talk about it yesterday on the Arken forum by a few I assume tried to place orders & could not. No official reason , no word from Arken on the forum.
 
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I'd be curious to know why... But I think @Gohring65 might be right. They probably don't want to get even more backlogged than they were already were. Glad I got mine shipped before the halt.
Good chance. Glad to hear yours is on the way finally! I'm extremely pleased with the SH4's I got. I still may order an EP5 once they catch up. Although I'd prefer it in a 50mm. I might just order 2 more SH4's instead. I'll see how it plays out.....
 
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Good chance. Glad to hear yours is on the way finally! I'm extremely pleased with the SH4's I got. I still may order an EP5 once they catch up. Although I'd prefer it in a 50mm. I might just order 2 more SH4's instead. I'll see how it plays out.....
Yeah, I'm pretty relieved it's finally shipped. Been kind of bored, with no motivation to go the range lately. Been needing something new to tinker with. LOL
 
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Yeah, I'm pretty relieved it's finally shipped. Been kind of bored, with no motivation to go the range lately. Been needing something new to tinker with. LOL
🤣 I'm terrible like that too. Constantly ordering shit I don't "need" so I got something new to shoot, sight in or install . #ThisIsWhyImBroke!
 
🤣 I'm terrible like that too. Constantly ordering shit I don't "need" so I got something new to shoot, sight in or install . #ThisIsWhyImBroke!
I've never been one to sell guns or high-end optics, but at this point, I'm considering selling a couple rifles that are brand new and never shot, that I've had for nearly a decade, that just take up space in the safe, and a few of my high-end scopes that don't have target turrets, just because I don't hardly hunt anymore, and I like to dial. And I want some new projects with nicer glass on them. Maybe it's a mid-life (35) crisis, but it is what it is...

Just no longer interested in big boomers anymore, as I have lots of them, and plan on keeping most of them. I just want to delve-off into the short-action world more. I find them more enjoyable for range toys. Less powder consumption, easier on the shoulder, longer barrel life, etc... I've always had short-actions, and always shot a lot, I just never got into the SA cartridges like I did the long actions and magnums.

We get older, priorities change, habits change, and our hobbies change. Plus, unless I go to the CMP in Talledega, Society Hill, or Rockford, or some other long range shooting facility (none nearby), then I have no need for the big magnums. And it's rare I have a spot to shoot deer past 500 yards in Alabama...So... 🤷🏼
 
A few years ago I liquidated several guns, i used the money to put a custom 6.5 creed together, bought a 338 lapua with a barrel nut and kept a couple ARs.
I went after quality rifles instead of quantity. I still have several others that are heirlooms and inherited. But I streamlined my shooters. I’m thinking of adding a 30-06 ai set up for long heavy bullets. Especially since I can put a decent scope on for under 1k$.
 
I always believed that optics are overrated, I understand that they are measuring instruments and that they must have high reliability and precision in their adjustments. This thought arose from seeing the images that the Nikon P1000 camera can generate, a highly technological product that uses microprocessors, image sensors, UHD touch screens, pristine glass, and an extensive number of complex components, all for just US$1,000.

On the other hand, I am faced with this Arken SH4 which many American citizens praise, it would be foolish for me not buy one of these. assuming an overvaluation. But i'm not totally convinced.

An excellent optic for the price I think was the Leupold Mark 4 extensively battle tested. Without spending the US$5,000 required by Schmidt & Bender.

But hell, if I were a US citizen and lived in that great nation, all my scopes would be made there or at least in Japan or Europe.
 
A few years ago I liquidated several guns, i used the money to put a custom 6.5 creed together, bought a 338 lapua with a barrel nut and kept a couple ARs.
I went after quality rifles instead of quantity. I still have several others that are heirlooms and inherited. But I streamlined my shooters. I’m thinking of adding a 30-06 ai set up for long heavy bullets. Especially since I can put a decent scope on for under 1k$.
Ironically, my .30-06 AI 40º is one that I'm considering breaking down and rebarreling into a semi-short action cartridge, but one that is better suited for a long action, maybe a .25x284 Norma...or .25x284 Blackjack. I have a brand new 26" Proof carbon .257 1:7.5" twist barrel blank sitting around needing to be used with the Blackjack 131 ACE and new Berger .257 135 Elites. 😏
 
I've never sold anything (except for that piece of SHIT Kel Tec sub 2000 when they 1st came out). I've thought of downsizing guns I never use to free up $$ for other SHIT I "think" I need but never do lol. A Remington 700 7mm mag I don't shoot, I think I have 2 or 3 Remington 700's in 25-06 with Douglas & Shaw barrels but usually only take my Encore single shot in 25-06 when I use that caliber. A Winchester 25wssm Coyote Lite that glares at me for leaving her in the safe., list goes on & on. The 2 rifles I've used the most the past couple of years were my ruger 10/22lr & Ruger Ranch chambered in 7.62x39, now that's been a fun little rifle for deer & groundhog! The next Arken is DEFINITELY going on the Ruger 7.62x39, just not sure between the 6-24× or the 4-16×.
 
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I won't even get into how many different ones I load for vs. actually shoot... Because it will only hurt with how much I've spent on brass, and dies and shit over the years. But, the main rifles I shoot these days are a few of my AR's, and my .260 Rem and .308 Win. And I need to get the .308 threaded for my cans. Just still haven't gotten around to that yet.

I've thought about selling one of my custom 7mm STW's (new never fired) and a brand new Remington 700 Gen1 5R Milspec 26" .300 WinMag. Never liked the cartridge, never wanted one, just needed to get rid of my POS Weatherby MKV .257 Wby that had a bad factory barrel, and Weatherby told me to go pound sound, so I traded it back into where I bought it at a huge loss, but traded it straight-up for that brand new 5R Milspec. So, I wasn't complaining too much. I'm debating on keeping the 5R simply because it's brand new, and we all KNOW how well they shoot. It will probably be a collector's item one day. On the other hand, right now they're impossible to find, so it should bring PREMO cash... Decisions, decisions... 🤣
 
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maybe an unpopular opinion, but my SH4 glass is better than the vortex pst gen 2. The arken really really impressed me. I found that the turrets on mine were excellent, the only thing I wasn’t a fan of is the coating. Seems to mark up easily.
 
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maybe an unpopular opinion, but my SH4 glass is better than the vortex pst gen 2. The arken really really impressed me. I found that the turrets on mine were excellent, the only thing I wasn’t a fan of is the coating. Seems to mark up easily.
Are you talking about the lens coatings marking up? Like fingerprints, or permanently? I keep Butler Creek caps on all my rifles and keep them closed at all times unless I'm shooting. When done, I pop them shut. Just habit after years of hunting in thick brush and woods.
 
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Are you talking about the lens coatings marking up? Like fingerprints, or permanently? I keep Butler Creek caps on all my rifles and keep them closed at all times unless I'm shooting. When done, I pop them shut. Just habit after years of hunting in thick brush and woods.
No I’m speaking of the scope housing. It’s sort of has like a parkerized feel
 
No I’m speaking of the scope housing. It’s sort of has like a parkerized feel
Oh yeah, the scope finish is kind of weird. I did notice that as well. Reminded me a lot of the the top-end tactical scopes from 15-20 years ago, when scopes were just starting to get matte finishes for tactical reasons. They were the same way...Kind of a smooth matte finish, but still showed fingerprints. It's nice finish though...Very smooth matte, and laid-down very evenly. I'll give them that. 👍🏼
 
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Oh yeah, the scope finish is kind of weird. I did notice that as well. Reminded me a lot of the the top-end tactical scopes from 15-20 years ago, when scopes were just starting to get matte finishes for tactical reasons. They were the same way...Kind of a smooth matte finish, but still showed fingerprints. It's nice finish though...Very smooth matte, and laid-down very evenly. I'll give them that. 👍🏼
Yeah. I think for what it is, they are excellent scopes. Glass clarity is my favorite part.
 
Ok... I just went and read some of the early Arken threads, because it recommended them at the bottom of the screen... I just want to say, I totally get the hate now. Wow...

Having spent inordinate amounts of time behind high-end optics, and owning several $1,500+ scopes...And shooting through scopes all the way up to $11,000 Hensoldt's (not mine, some rich old guy that used to be a regular customer at the gun store)... Here's my take, versus what I was reading...

While these are phenomenal scopes for the money, and hell, even phenomenal scopes for twice the money... And while they may be as good, and in some cases, feel superior mechanically to some of the alpha-tier scopes (a lot of that, like turret feel, is matter of personal preference). But, folks comparing the glass to Razor G2's, Steiner M7's, ZCO, TT, USO, and Kahles... Come on... 🤦🏼

Look, I'm the first person to tell you it's retarded to pay over $2,000 for a rifle scope, BUT... Facts are facts. The top-tier glass IS superior. Period. Is it $2,000, $3,000, or $4,000 superior? Not in my opinion, but NO optic on earth is, or ever will be, unless it's X-Ray vision. But there is a very noticeable difference, even between my $1,500 Zeiss 30mm FFP and my SH4 Gen2 scopes. So, I guarantee you there is a VERY noticeable difference between an SH4 Gen2 and a $4,000 ZCO or TT when comparing glass. Is the cost differentiation justifiable? That's a matter of bank account and personal opinion. I'm not going to tell anyone what to spend their money on, just like I respect folks doing the same for me. I started this thread and bought these scopes because I personally wanted to see what all the hype was about. And so far I'm pretty impressed for the money.

I'm not rich, but if I was, yeah, I'd probably run alpha-tier scopes on everything just because...Especially if I could afford some of these hunts people pay to go on...$4-5K for a scope is a drop in the bucket compared to that. Or, if one of those scopes was less than a month's pay for me. Right now, with the slow season, one of those scopes is over twice that...Tough times. Anyway... I totally understand now why they're so controversial and why all the hate.
 
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Ok... I just went and read some of the early Arken threads, because it recommended them at the bottom of the screen... I just want to say, I totally get the hate now. Wow...

Having spent inordinate amounts of time behind high-end optics, and owning several $1,500+ scopes...And shooting through scopes all the way up to $11,000 Hensoldt's (not mine, some rich old guy that used to be a regular customer at the gun store)... Here's my take, versus what I was reading...

While these are phenomenal scopes for the money, and hell, even phenomenal scopes for twice the money... And while they may be as good, and in some cases, feel superior mechanically to some of the alpha-tier scopes (a lot of that, like turret feel, is matter of personal preference). But, folks comparing the glass to Razor G2's, Steiner M7's, ZCO, TT, USO, and Kahles... Come on... 🤦🏼

Look, I'm the first person to tell you it's retarded to pay over $2,000 for a rifle scope, BUT... Facts are facts. The top-tier glass IS superior. Period. Is it $2,000, $3,000, or $4,000 superior? Not in my opinion, but NO optic on earth is, or ever will be, unless it's X-Ray vision. But there is a very noticeable difference, even between my $1,500 Zeiss 30mm FFP and my SH4 Gen2 scopes. So, I guarantee you there is a VERY noticeable difference between an SH4 Gen2 and a $4,000 ZCO or TT when comparing glass. Is the cost differentiation justifiable? That's a matter of bank account and personal opinion. I'm not going to tell anyone what to spend their money on, just like I respect folks doing the same for me. I started this thread and bought these scopes because I personally wanted to see what all the hype was about. And so far I'm pretty impressed for the money.

I'm not rich, but if I was, yeah, I'd probably run alpha-tier scopes on everything just because...Especially if I could afford some of these hunts people pay to go on...$4-5K for a scope is a drop in the bucket compared to that. Or, if one of those scopes was less than a month's pay for me. Right now, with the slow season, one of those scopes is over twice that...Tough times. Anyway... I totally understand now why they're so controversial and why all the hate.
Dude, you're entitled to your opinion but its obvious these Arken sh4's beat the overpriced "top tier" S&B's etc. hands down- in EVERY WAY! (Kidding-sort of, just poking the almighty scope lickers a little. Especially those short bus passengers calling it trash having never even fucking looked through one!🖕) Arken are definitely a decent scope at a great price.
 
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I’m sticking to my guns on everything I’ve said about Arken scopes and their rings.
I tend to go with my own eyes and feel for products. The scopes punch above their price point and their rings suck.
I remember when Athlon was taking a absolute beating here and slowly people gave them a try and now, I’m my opinion, they put out better options across the board than vortex when it comes to budget scopes 1k$ and under. Absolutely blowing them away, causing vortex to play catch up. Once more people start using Arken for their secondary platforms they’ll catch on like Athlon.
 
I’m sticking to my guns on everything I’ve said about Arken scopes and their rings.
I tend to go with my own eyes and feel for products. The scopes punch above their price point and their rings suck.
I remember when Athlon was taking a absolute beating here and slowly people gave them a try and now, I’m my opinion, they put out better options across the board than vortex when it comes to budget scopes 1k$ and under. Absolutely blowing them away, causing vortex to play catch up. Once more people start using Arken for their secondary platforms they’ll catch on like Athlon.
You saying that Arken's are the Jeff Gordon's of the scope world? 🤣
What don't You like about the rings? I used their 20moa mounts on the 2 I've got mounted so far, seems pretty decent. I did buy a set of the Arken 1.26" rings in case I needed them for something else but haven't installed them on anything yet. Upon visual inspection, they seemed well made.
 
You saying that Arken's are the Jeff Gordon's of the scope world? 🤣
What don't You like about the rings? I used their 20moa mounts on the 2 I've got mounted so far, seems pretty decent. I did buy a set of the Arken 1.26" rings in case I needed them for something else but haven't installed them on anything yet. Upon visual inspection, they seemed well made.
I just had two failures with the mount plate, I think it’s more of a design and material flaw. It’s a easy remedy, that if they fix, would be great rings. Just make the plate out of steel, like weaver, UTG pro, and several others. But I have two sets of broken rings. I warrantied one set, probably going to the other set, but I can’t put them on anything. I just lost confidence in them.
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